Treating with Vitamin C - Page 17

pdabj · 12/09/2009, 08:26 PM

Just curios. I just got the VC FROM iherb for my tank and will start dosing tonight. My Nitrates are high and my zoas are not doing great and will be glad to see both improve.

Pufferpunk · 12/09/2009, 08:28 PM

No need to bother with cheato then. Be sure to follow my instructions on dosing.

mceribas · 12/10/2009, 07:02 AM

Hallo,
I'm a fan of a full Zoanthid.
I now more than thirty types of tanks have zoa and I will share them over time.
've Reviewed your tank and liked. I want to congratulate you.

Genetics · 12/10/2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mceribas

Hallo,
I'm a fan of a full Zoanthid.
I now more than thirty types of tanks have zoa and I will share them over time.
've Reviewed your tank and liked. I want to congratulate you.

mceribas, you have a fully stocked zoanthid tank that you are using vitamin c (ascorbic acid) on?

Can't wait to see some pictures!

Pufferpunk · 12/10/2009, 11:27 AM

With English probably not being that poster's main language, I'm not sure I understand his post. I have known folks (for example Geoxman), who have had gorgeous zoa-filled systems, dosing VC successfully.

mceribas · 12/11/2009, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genetics

mceribas, you have a fully stocked zoanthid tank that you are using vitamin c (ascorbic acid) on?

Can't wait to see some pictures!

Very few pure vitamin C every six months I'm using.

NCNBilly · 12/11/2009, 10:44 AM

I'm up to 3/4 tsp 2x/day in my 120 net gallon system (started 2 weeks ago). NO3 is ~20ppm by API kit, any guess as to when I'll see a drop? Getting the white stringy snot at the moment, so I'm not increasing the dosage until it's gone.

I know every tank is different, just looking for an estimate. Got a big jump in zoa health from 1/2 tsp to 3/4 teaspoon - had some zoos open that haven't opened in months and all others are open fully now and the colors have appreciably deepened.

Jeff · 12/11/2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCNBilly

I'm up to 3/4 tsp 2x/day in my 120 net gallon system (started 2 weeks ago). NO3 is ~20ppm by API kit, any guess as to when I'll see a drop? Getting the white stringy snot at the moment, so I'm not increasing the dosage until it's gone.

I know every tank is different, just looking for an estimate. Got a big jump in zoa health from 1/2 tsp to 3/4 teaspoon - had some zoos open that haven't opened in months and all others are open fully now and the colors have appreciably deepened.

Sounds like things are going well then except for the white stuff. I would stop VC for a day or two until it goes away. it's either die-off of undesirable algae or a bacterial bloom. Either way, it indicates you may be using too much at the moment.

Pufferpunk · 12/11/2009, 10:57 AM

How's your skimmer output?

Pufferpunk · 12/13/2009, 03:31 PM

Bump

NCNBilly · 12/14/2009, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

Sounds like things are going well then except for the white stuff. I would stop VC for a day or two until it goes away. it's either die-off of undesirable algae or a bacterial bloom. Either way, it indicates you may be using too much at the moment.

Skipped a dose on Saturday morning since I was out of town, things look 100% improved so I think it's caught up - I'm going to hold this dose for a few days yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pufferpunk

How's your skimmer output?

VERY slimy.. I normally have a solid layer of brown goo in the neck that I clean weekly, this is much lighter but I've cleaned the skimmer almost daily. The skimmate is much foamier than before.

NCNBilly · 12/17/2009, 09:51 AM

Apparently, in my tank 3/4tsp is enough as a carbon source. My NO3 dropped from 20 to 5 in about a week along with a few small water changes. My tank hasn't been this happy in years.

Most of the goo is gone, just a few strands here and there in the sump.

Pufferpunk · 12/17/2009, 12:13 PM

Yippee!!!

khennig · 12/17/2009, 03:22 PM

Ms. Puffer,

I have noticed while dosing the iHerb product, my skimmate is very gray in color and has a very strong "rotten egg" smell. I did find the happy medium of how much to dose, by dosing until the white film appeared, and I have backed off slightly. Then tank looks great and everything is growing. My RO filters and membrane are old but my makeup water does not smell bad or test positive for phosphates, etc.

Is it normal for the skimmate to smell so bad?

Pufferpunk · 12/17/2009, 04:48 PM

Yes, skimmate is supposed to be nasty stuff! If your RO membranes are old, you need to be testing for TDS. Are you having any issues with algae/cyano?

khennig · 12/17/2009, 06:35 PM

I am having a problem with some kind of algae.

It looks like black dust forming on the rocks. It does not look like the red or black cyano, and cannot be blown off the rock easily. It starts as little black spots and spreads as more little black spots as opposed to the carpet like spread of red cyano.

Looks like time to buy a TDS meter and then some new cartridges.

My skimmate is usually pretty "normal" looking, but this is gray and the smell could knock you over....

Thanks

Jeff · 12/18/2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khennig

I am having a problem with some kind of algae.

It looks like black dust forming on the rocks. It does not look like the red or black cyano, and cannot be blown off the rock easily. It starts as little black spots and spreads as more little black spots as opposed to the carpet like spread of red cyano.

Looks like time to buy a TDS meter and then some new cartridges.

My skimmate is usually pretty "normal" looking, but this is gray and the smell could knock you over....

Thanks

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RedAnt78 · 12/19/2009, 02:21 AM

Just ordered a bottle. Here's a code for $5 off if some wants it. LAG480

Pufferpunk · 12/19/2009, 10:24 AM

The original code is still good.

RGC · 12/19/2009, 10:36 AM

I started dosing VC this week after reading this thread. It will be interesting to see how the tank reacts. I'm using the recommend VC.

Pufferpunk · 12/19/2009, 10:47 AM

Cool, be sure to take some before pics! We really need some drastic before/after pics for the article Jeff & I want to write on this.

RGC · 12/19/2009, 11:03 AM

I posted some of my before pictures in the zoa garden thread here. I'll be sure to take some after pictures.

Pufferpunk · 12/19/2009, 11:04 AM

We need them in the same post, together.

RGC · 12/19/2009, 11:40 AM

I have to before saved so if I get any results..good or bad I'll post them all here.

khennig · 12/19/2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

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care to elaborate ?

I came here looking for help.....

12/09/2009, 08:26 PM	#401
pdabj Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fresno, Texas Posts: 67	Just curios. I just got the VC FROM iherb for my tank and will start dosing tonight. My Nitrates are high and my zoas are not doing great and will be glad to see both improve. Last edited by pdabj; 12/09/2009 at 08:40 PM.

12/17/2009, 03:22 PM	#414
khennig Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dyer, IN Posts: 58	Skimmate Ms. Puffer, I have noticed while dosing the iHerb product, my skimmate is very gray in color and has a very strong "rotten egg" smell. I did find the happy medium of how much to dose, by dosing until the white film appeared, and I have backed off slightly. Then tank looks great and everything is growing. My RO filters and membrane are old but my makeup water does not smell bad or test positive for phosphates, etc. Is it normal for the skimmate to smell so bad?

12/19/2009, 02:21 AM	#418
RedAnt78 Likes fish Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 649	Just ordered a bottle. Here's a code for $5 off if some wants it. LAG480 __________________ 40 Breeder Rimless. SPS dominated - 2x Radion XR15

12/09/2009, 08:28 PM	#402
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	No need to bother with cheato then. Be sure to follow my instructions on dosing.

12/10/2009, 07:02 AM	#403
mceribas Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: İstanbul Posts: 2	Hallo, I'm a fan of a full Zoanthid. I now more than thirty types of tanks have zoa and I will share them over time. 've Reviewed your tank and liked. I want to congratulate you.

12/10/2009, 11:27 AM	#405
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	With English probably not being that poster's main language, I'm not sure I understand his post. I have known folks (for example Geoxman), who have had gorgeous zoa-filled systems, dosing VC successfully.

12/11/2009, 10:44 AM	#407
NCNBilly Black thumb reefer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 1,043	I'm up to 3/4 tsp 2x/day in my 120 net gallon system (started 2 weeks ago). NO3 is ~20ppm by API kit, any guess as to when I'll see a drop? Getting the white stringy snot at the moment, so I'm not increasing the dosage until it's gone. I know every tank is different, just looking for an estimate. Got a big jump in zoa health from 1/2 tsp to 3/4 teaspoon - had some zoos open that haven't opened in months and all others are open fully now and the colors have appreciably deepened.

12/11/2009, 10:57 AM	#409
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	How's your skimmer output?

12/13/2009, 03:31 PM	#410
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	Bump

12/17/2009, 09:51 AM	#412
NCNBilly Black thumb reefer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 1,043	Apparently, in my tank 3/4tsp is enough as a carbon source. My NO3 dropped from 20 to 5 in about a week along with a few small water changes. My tank hasn't been this happy in years. Most of the goo is gone, just a few strands here and there in the sump.

12/17/2009, 12:13 PM	#413
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	Yippee!!!

12/17/2009, 04:48 PM	#415
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	Yes, skimmate is supposed to be nasty stuff! If your RO membranes are old, you need to be testing for TDS. Are you having any issues with algae/cyano?

12/17/2009, 06:35 PM	#416
khennig Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dyer, IN Posts: 58	I am having a problem with some kind of algae. It looks like black dust forming on the rocks. It does not look like the red or black cyano, and cannot be blown off the rock easily. It starts as little black spots and spreads as more little black spots as opposed to the carpet like spread of red cyano. Looks like time to buy a TDS meter and then some new cartridges. My skimmate is usually pretty "normal" looking, but this is gray and the smell could knock you over.... Thanks

12/19/2009, 10:24 AM	#419
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	The original code is still good.

12/19/2009, 10:36 AM	#420
RGC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gloversville , ny Posts: 157	I started dosing VC this week after reading this thread. It will be interesting to see how the tank reacts. I'm using the recommend VC.

12/19/2009, 10:47 AM	#421
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	Cool, be sure to take some before pics! We really need some drastic before/after pics for the article Jeff & I want to write on this.

12/19/2009, 11:03 AM	#422
RGC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gloversville , ny Posts: 157	I posted some of my before pictures in the zoa garden thread here. I'll be sure to take some after pictures.

12/19/2009, 11:04 AM	#423
Pufferpunk Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Franklin Park, IL Posts: 21,027	We need them in the same post, together.

12/19/2009, 11:40 AM	#424
RGC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gloversville , ny Posts: 157	I have to before saved so if I get any results..good or bad I'll post them all here.