Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here! - Page 8

bif24701 · 09/10/2016, 10:42 AM

Aaron

jdantunes · 09/10/2016, 04:13 PM

Your reef looks young, Aaron. How many fish you got there?

bif24701 · 09/10/2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jdantunes

Your reef looks young, Aaron. How many fish you got there?

Three, but two more in QT.

Aaron

bif24701 · 09/10/2016, 04:35 PM

Just moved again, last month. Hopefully for the last time for a while. This will finally let me grow out my corals, and get my tangs. Still plan to add a powder blue to this mix

Aaron

ReefRealEstate · 09/14/2016, 05:43 AM

Anyone else having issues getting the lamps to actually use the program I set up. Isn't it set it and forget it? I turn on the program the lights turn on bright then never change. They just stay on whatever setting it was at when I turn on the program and they don't run it. So frustrating. Any help would be much appreciated.

vhuang168 · 09/14/2016, 07:21 AM

I never had that problem. Is the light updated? Are you running the iPad or iPhone app? Email or call them?

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jdantunes · 09/14/2016, 08:10 AM

I'm very disappointed from knowing that BRS had to add one more AP700 to the BRS 160 build. Now they are using 3x Ap700 plus 4x 80W T5HO on a 6' x 2' x 20" tank, that's over $3300 in lighting!

vhuang168 · 09/14/2016, 08:32 AM

Depends on why they felt they needed to add another.

I'll be running 3 on a 60/27/27. Not that 2 wouldn't cover it but more to reduce shadowing.

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gus6464 · 09/14/2016, 01:01 PM

I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

bif24701 · 09/14/2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ReefRealEstate

Anyone else having issues getting the lamps to actually use the program I set up. Isn't it set it and forget it? I turn on the program the lights turn on bright then never change. They just stay on whatever setting it was at when I turn on the program and they don't run it. So frustrating. Any help would be much appreciated.

Are you sure they are on program, not manual?

Aaron

bif24701 · 09/14/2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jdantunes

I'm very disappointed from knowing that BRS had to add one more AP700 to the BRS 160 build. Now they are using 3x Ap700 plus 4x 80W T5HO on a 6' x 2' x 20" tank, that's over $3300 in lighting!

If you heard their explanation, and the fact the AP700s are running only 30%. It's seems clear to me they had no reason other than just because. I have a 180, same length width, and see no reason to add a third.

Aaron

bif24701 · 09/14/2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gus6464

I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

Actually you will want to mount lower. Mounting a light that spreads the light so well you will get light spilling outside of the tank. It's controllable so just set the intensity lower.

Aaron

gus6464 · 09/14/2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bif24701

Actually you will want to mount lower. Mounting a light that spreads the light so well you will get light spilling outside of the tank. It's controllable so just set the intensity lower.

Aaron

Well thing is I am scared of T5 being too much at lower height when they fire up. I am using philips centiums which in 24W mode have very high ballast factor. It will be a floating canopy thought that I am attaching with a tv full motion mount to the wall so the canopy should contain all of the spill.

jdantunes · 09/14/2016, 05:09 PM

I guess that you are going to overdrive your T5's? Can I ask the reason?

gus6464 · 09/14/2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jdantunes

I guess that you are going to overdrive your T5's? Can I ask the reason?

It's not overdriving when power factor stays the same. Centium ICN-2S39T have a ballast factor of 1.12 @ 24w with power factor still at 1.00. It's just a more efficient ballast. Overdriving is when power factor is above 1.00.

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Confuse · 09/15/2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gus6464

I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

Gus, let us know what you think of the light. We have similar taste in LED/spectrum philosophy, so I'd be interested to learn your opinion of the AP 700.

gus6464 · 09/15/2016, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuse

Gus, let us know what you think of the light. We have similar taste in LED/spectrum philosophy, so I'd be interested to learn your opinion of the AP 700.

Will do. What I like about the Kessil is that color control is easy and looks good no matter what color was selected on the app. Lights with a zillion channels annoy me. Think I'm going to run 2 coral plus and 2 true actinic and run the ap700 on the bluer color close to the radium 20k blue.

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Confuse · 09/16/2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gus6464

Will do. What I like about the Kessil is that color control is easy and looks good no matter what color was selected on the app. Lights with a zillion channels annoy me. Think I'm going to run 2 coral plus and 2 true actinic and run the ap700 on the bluer color close to the radium 20k blue.

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I like the overall look of my Kessil because I am able to emulate a 20K Radium look that I have never been able to achieve in any LED fixture. However, I am not happy that they still use cool whites. I had a large deep red blasto colony in my tank with AP 700's and it looked orange, but when I put the same coral under my NanoBox LEDs in my 20g, the colony was a deep solid red due to the use of warm and neutral whites. While I don't really like separate green and red channels, the adjustment of them on the AP 700 is very subtle and it does not create a disco effect. I run the red and green channel at about 30% and I can't tell from looking at the tank, but certain corals tend to look reder or greener.

gus6464 · 09/16/2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuse

I like the overall look of my Kessil because I am able to emulate a 20K Radium look that I have never been able to achieve in any LED fixture. However, I am not happy that they still use cool whites. I had a large deep red blasto colony in my tank with AP 700's and it looked orange, but when I put the same coral under my NanoBox LEDs in my 20g, the colony was a deep solid red due to the use of warm and neutral whites. While I don't really like separate green and red channels, the adjustment of them on the AP 700 is very subtle and it does not create a disco effect. I run the red and green channel at about 30% and I can't tell from looking at the tank, but certain corals tend to look reder or greener.

I still think nanobox has the best color but I just wish you could mount a reflector on them. That's all they really need to be the top of the crop.

bif24701 · 09/16/2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuse

I like the overall look of my Kessil because I am able to emulate a 20K Radium look that I have never been able to achieve in any LED fixture. However, I am not happy that they still use cool whites. I had a large deep red blasto colony in my tank with AP 700's and it looked orange, but when I put the same coral under my NanoBox LEDs in my 20g, the colony was a deep solid red due to the use of warm and neutral whites. While I don't really like separate green and red channels, the adjustment of them on the AP 700 is very subtle and it does not create a disco effect. I run the red and green channel at about 30% and I can't tell from looking at the tank, but certain corals tend to look reder or greener.

What color choice do you feel gives you the Radium 20k look? I've never had them.

I run my red/green at 35% feel it is just enough to balance them out, looks good.

Aaron

Confuse · 09/16/2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bif24701

What color choice do you feel gives you the Radium 20k look? I've never had them.

I run my red/green at 35% feel it is just enough to balance them out, looks good.

Aaron

I believe it's the fourth setting from the bottom of the white/blue color wheel on the left? It's a crisp white with a hint of blue. I kind of wish that we would have flexibility over the color wheel like the color knob does on the physical fixtures, but they're divided into smaller pieces, so they're preset.

bif24701 · 09/16/2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Confuse

I believe it's the fourth setting from the bottom of the white/blue color wheel on the left? It's a crisp white with a hint of blue. I kind of wish that we would have flexibility over the color wheel like the color knob does on the physical fixtures, but they're divided into smaller pieces, so they're preset.

That's I think the one I chose also, mine go to full blue mornings and evenings.

Aaron

Confuse · 09/16/2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gus6464

I still think nanobox has the best color but I just wish you could mount a reflector on them. That's all they really need to be the top of the crop.

Yeah, the NanoBox is probably the best LED fixture I've owned. I'm really interested in what the Blue Acro guy is doing with the Rebel Z's and reflectors. Looks promising.

Thor2j · 09/20/2016, 06:58 PM

Joining the club. Ordered 2 AP700s to replace 4 360wes over my reefer 525xl.

bif24701 · 09/20/2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor2j

Joining the club. Ordered 2 AP700s to replace 4 360wes over my reefer 525xl.

Welcome!

Aaron

09/10/2016, 10:42 AM	#176
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/10/2016, 04:13 PM	#177
jdantunes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 549	Your reef looks young, Aaron. How many fish you got there? __________________ Jonathan Current Tank Info: 75 Gallon Deep Blue Rimless

09/10/2016, 04:35 PM	#179
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Just moved again, last month. Hopefully for the last time for a while. This will finally let me grow out my corals, and get my tangs. Still plan to add a powder blue to this mix Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/14/2016, 05:43 AM	#180
ReefRealEstate Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 127	Can't get Program to work Anyone else having issues getting the lamps to actually use the program I set up. Isn't it set it and forget it? I turn on the program the lights turn on bright then never change. They just stay on whatever setting it was at when I turn on the program and they don't run it. So frustrating. Any help would be much appreciated. __________________ 64"x32"Hx30"D starphire glass. 2 Kessil AP700 ATI 250sk. Rock refugium, Calc, carbon, and pellet reactors, Apex Gold. 4 Jebao RW-15 Jebao 12000 pump. RO system for ATO tank & ASMWC - 30G QT Current Tank Info: New Build 270+- gallon

09/14/2016, 07:21 AM	#181
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	I never had that problem. Is the light updated? Are you running the iPad or iPhone app? Email or call them? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

09/14/2016, 08:10 AM	#182
jdantunes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 549	I'm very disappointed from knowing that BRS had to add one more AP700 to the BRS 160 build. Now they are using 3x Ap700 plus 4x 80W T5HO on a 6' x 2' x 20" tank, that's over $3300 in lighting! __________________ Jonathan Current Tank Info: 75 Gallon Deep Blue Rimless

09/14/2016, 08:32 AM	#183
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	Depends on why they felt they needed to add another. I'll be running 3 on a 60/27/27. Not that 2 wouldn't cover it but more to reduce shadowing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

09/14/2016, 01:01 PM	#184
gus6464 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,079	I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

09/14/2016, 05:09 PM	#189
jdantunes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 549	I guess that you are going to overdrive your T5's? Can I ask the reason? __________________ Jonathan Current Tank Info: 75 Gallon Deep Blue Rimless

09/20/2016, 06:58 PM	#199
Thor2j Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 230	Joining the club. Ordered 2 AP700s to replace 4 360wes over my reefer 525xl.