Yellow Tang & Blue Hippo Tang together? - Page 2

LaOtIn · 04/17/2011, 09:28 AM

lol I rewrote this post 4 times and I will sum it all up:

My edited~dc still stands.......bring a snickers

dc · 04/17/2011, 11:00 AM

Let's dispense with the tang police comments. All it does is cause fights here.

LaOtIn · 04/17/2011, 11:52 AM

sorry

tkeracer619 · 04/17/2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JW3571

Is there any problem keeping these two tangs together? The tank is a 90g with 30g sump

No but I think you can find a fish better suited for the long term then a blue. Look at a kole tang instead of the blue. They are incredible fish. They should be ok but one thing to consider is tangs are aggressive fish that will take territory. Any new fish that is added might end up in a fight so you want to make sure you add the tangs last and that they are as small as you can get them. You will need to feed them a considerable amount so make sure you have a good skimmer and keep up on water changes. They are large fish that poop a lot.

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Originally Posted by sbreefer

Guys, sailfins and nasos will not get that big if in a smaller system!!!!

If you feed it properly it will.

LaOtIn · 04/17/2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

They are large fish that poop a lot.If you feed it properly it will.

LOL so true, my yellow likes to get up next to my rabbit and poop in his face hahaahhaha

Angel*Fish · 04/17/2011, 04:31 PM

Putting a fish that reaches a foot long in a 6 foot long tank is rather short sighted.

Those of you who think animals only grow to the size of their cage - what do you think it is that causes stunted growth? Do you think the universe planned it this way to make caged animals and their owners happy? You think the fish "knows" he should secrete less GH because he's in a small tank? Studies on fish have shown that chronically stressed fish will release more norepinephrine and epinephrine which indeed suppresses release of growth hormone. So if you have a fish that's growth is stunted, even though he seems "fine" to you, he's NOT.

sanchoy · 04/17/2011, 06:42 PM

Its possible. Look at all the LFS, they have the tangs in very small tanks. Now will your tang be happy, not sure.

shifty51008 · 04/17/2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sanchoy

Its possible. Look at all the LFS, they have the tangs in very small tanks. Now will your tang be happy, not sure.

I hope you know that the tangs in the LFS are ment to be sold and not housed their for long term which is why they can do it. same as when you QT your fish it isn't there for long term so you don't need a big tank for that purpose.

rugby74 · 04/26/2011, 08:27 PM

I have a hippo tang and a yellow tang in my 90 gallon right now and the hippo is nipping at the yellow tang. It's fin is a little torn up so I'm getting rid of the hippo. They'll get too big for a 90 gallon anyway. I wouldn't recommend it.

glenns · 04/26/2011, 09:46 PM

You may want to add the Yellow last. I've had good sized Yellows be real bullies to any new fish added to a tank.

I currently have a small Blue Hippo(aka Regal) and he has never bullied new fish. Just don't panic when they get ich. Mine gets a mild out break from time to time and usually kicks it in a few days.

Kyleben · 04/26/2011, 09:49 PM

has anyone else noticed if you say tang on this site that 10 people yell at you for having too small for a tank....got a hippo in my 56 :-P

Toddrtrex · 04/26/2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyleben

has anyone else noticed if you say tang on this site that 10 people yell at you for having too small for a tank....got a hippo in my 56 :-P

I guess I will just have to repeat myself, since you don't seem to be able to understand...

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

So, you think this post/attitude is a good idea? I will give you the answer, it isn't.

BTW -- links, even one's that have to be cut and pasted are not allowed as your "sig"

And it isn't wise to have a "hippo" in a 30" long tank.

Kyleben · 04/26/2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

I guess I will just have to repeat myself, since you don't seem to be able to understand...

And it isn't wise to have a "hippo" in a 30" long tank.

hes small...im raising him until I get my 150 going. I wasn't being smart, nearly an observation.

justin serve · 04/26/2011, 10:16 PM

Plain and simple tangs get big I also have a 90 gallon reef and I have a blue hippo tang and I have had her for 3 to 4 years she has a scorpion fish,hog fish,two green chromes,a tomato clown (female) a yellow and a dwarf lion fish and I can still add some fish with no problem it matters how active your fish are how much waste they create and if your filter can keep up with them. I also have a 135 with a three foot coral banded bamboo shark with angles and tangs and they have been there for three years no problem I also have a 75 bow front with a full grown dog face puffer a full grown panther grouper three feet big and a three foot snow flake eel and they have been there for as years and I have a 35 gallon nano reef and every single one of my tanks has had no problems with fighting over space. So I would say go ahead and put them in there you would be fine just take good care of them and have a really good filter. And plenty of hiding spots and very good water flow

Kyleben · 04/26/2011, 10:50 PM

thats what im saying...like every situation is different...when someone says they have a hippo you have no idea if its 1" or 10" when mine had ich he lived in a 20g qt fine. my pops has a small yellow in a 20g....its shallow and has lots of room to swim.

Jim.mer · 04/26/2011, 10:58 PM

The rule of thumb is you can put two tangs in as long as their not the same shape or colour,

dzfish17 · 04/26/2011, 11:44 PM

I cant believe what I just read. Maybe all those people who want to stop the SW aquarium hobby are right... to many irresponsible aquarists. This is where one of the guys who overstocks or stocks incorrectly will chime in and tell me that I'm crazy because they know their fish are happy being cramped in an inappropriate sized tank.

Angel*Fish · 04/27/2011, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin serve

Plain and simple tangs get big I also have a 90 gallon reef and I have a blue hippo tang and I have had her for 3 to 4 years she has a scorpion fish,hog fish,two green chromes,a tomato clown (female) a yellow and a dwarf lion fish and I can still add some fish with no problem it matters how active your fish are how much waste they create and if your filter can keep up with them. I also have a 135 with a three foot coral banded bamboo shark with angles and tangs and they have been there for three years no problem I also have a 75 bow front with a full grown dog face puffer a full grown panther grouper three feet big and a three foot snow flake eel and they have been there for as years and I have a 35 gallon nano reef and every single one of my tanks has had no problems with fighting over space. So I would say go ahead and put them in there you would be fine just take good care of them and have a really good filter. And plenty of hiding spots and very good water flow

Not sure you know how to recognize a problem.

Toddrtrex · 04/27/2011, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin serve

Plain and simple tangs get big I also have a 90 gallon reef and I have a blue hippo tang and I have had her for 3 to 4 years she has a scorpion fish,hog fish,two green chromes,a tomato clown (female) a yellow and a dwarf lion fish and I can still add some fish with no problem it matters how active your fish are how much waste they create and if your filter can keep up with them. I also have a 135 with a three foot coral banded bamboo shark with angles and tangs and they have been there for three years no problem I also have a 75 bow front with a full grown dog face puffer a full grown panther grouper three feet big and a three foot snow flake eel and they have been there for as years and I have a 35 gallon nano reef and every single one of my tanks has had no problems with fighting over space. So I would say go ahead and put them in there you would be fine just take good care of them and have a really good filter. And plenty of hiding spots and very good water flow

Sure you do. So there is a puffer that gets over a foot and a grouper that gets to be over a foot in a half all in a 75 bow? Don't want to waste any more of my time breaking down the rest of your list. But, glad that you think it is all "no problem"

Crusty Old Shellback · 04/27/2011, 10:20 AM

No probelm keeping them together other than the blue WILL out grow the tank. In my 400 G I had 4 yellows, one blue, and two Naso's along with several other fish and they all got along fine. The Naso's were 12" + for the Male and 10" + for the female. My blue was about 9".

justin serve · 04/27/2011, 12:55 PM

Point being is every one has their deferent experiences and my 125 is very wide and long it's not so tall. And two my 90 gal reef is so not over stocked my blue hippo is 6 inches my yellow tang is about 6 and my scorpion fish is full grown my tomato clown is full grown I just got rid of my hog fish though and so far as my 75 they have not fought or got sick. My 125 is doing really good no problems. But hey I dot manage the 125 the tank I deal with is my 90 the other two is not my problem and I don't over stock the only reason why they put how many gallons the fish needs is for a guid line. Now I think with my blue hippo tang has a dissorter because she has stayed the same size for 2 years and not budge a inch and I do not under feed her to so I got lucky there that's why I say every one has their own experiances with their fish

Toddrtrex · 04/27/2011, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin serve

...... Now I think with my blue hippo tang has a dissorter because she has stayed the same size for 2 years and not budge a inch and I do not under feed her to so I got lucky there that's why I say every one has their own experiances with their fish

So, you think it has a disorder, as opposed to it being stressed by being in too small of a tank, is that correct?

glenns · 04/27/2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

So, you think it has a disorder, as opposed to it being stressed by being in too small of a tank, is that correct?

I read Bob Fenner's post, http://www.wetwebmedia.com/paracant.htm , about the Regal Blue/ Hippo Tang, and he states they get to a foot in the wild and half that in captivity.

I would avoid overstocking a tank, especially ones with tangs, because they use a lot of O2. If you have a power failure and don't have a backup system, I don't know how long they will last. But my guess would be not as long as fish with lower O2 demand.

Toddrtrex · 04/27/2011, 01:09 PM

They get bigger then a 6 inches in captivity -- if given the correct environment.

glenns · 04/27/2011, 01:48 PM

Agreed.

04/17/2011, 09:28 AM	#26
LaOtIn Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 704	lol I rewrote this post 4 times and I will sum it all up: My edited~dc still stands.......bring a snickers __________________ I am a water keeper that happens to like fish and coral Once a Marine, Always a Marine Semper Fidelis Devil Dog Last edited by dc; 04/17/2011 at 11:04 AM.

04/17/2011, 11:00 AM	#27
dc Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 44,684	Let's dispense with the tang police comments. All it does is cause fights here. __________________ Debi ~60 Cube~ Why? Because I said so of course. -Sent via Tapatalk Smoke Signals-

04/17/2011, 11:52 AM	#28
LaOtIn Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 704	sorry __________________ I am a water keeper that happens to like fish and coral Once a Marine, Always a Marine Semper Fidelis Devil Dog

04/17/2011, 04:31 PM	#31
Angel*Fish cats and large squashes Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Houston Posts: 5,951 Blog Entries: 1	Putting a fish that reaches a foot long in a 6 foot long tank is rather short sighted. Those of you who think animals only grow to the size of their cage - what do you think it is that causes stunted growth? Do you think the universe planned it this way to make caged animals and their owners happy? You think the fish "knows" he should secrete less GH because he's in a small tank? Studies on fish have shown that chronically stressed fish will release more norepinephrine and epinephrine which indeed suppresses release of growth hormone. So if you have a fish that's growth is stunted, even though he seems "fine" to you, he's NOT. __________________ Marie So long, & thanks for all the fish! __________________________ Current Tank Info: Pairs: flame angels, cherub angels, Red Sea mimic blennies, yellow fin fairy wrasses, clowns, mandarins, blackcap basslets, shrimp gobies, damsels, dispar anthias, yellow clown gobies, threadfin cardinals --- Tanks: 100g reef, 2 x 30g refugiums

04/17/2011, 06:42 PM	#32
sanchoy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Close to the ocean Posts: 1,026	Its possible. Look at all the LFS, they have the tangs in very small tanks. Now will your tang be happy, not sure. __________________ 250 gallon.. tangs are the best.. the po po is not. Current Tank Info: 250 reef

04/26/2011, 08:27 PM	#34
rugby74 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 52	I have a hippo tang and a yellow tang in my 90 gallon right now and the hippo is nipping at the yellow tang. It's fin is a little torn up so I'm getting rid of the hippo. They'll get too big for a 90 gallon anyway. I wouldn't recommend it.

04/26/2011, 09:46 PM	#35
glenns Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 623	You may want to add the Yellow last. I've had good sized Yellows be real bullies to any new fish added to a tank. I currently have a small Blue Hippo(aka Regal) and he has never bullied new fish. Just don't panic when they get ich. Mine gets a mild out break from time to time and usually kicks it in a few days. __________________ Glenn Current Tank Info: 90G w/20L Sump/Refugium, 6 T5 lights @54W ea., Reef Octopus EXT-PS-120, DSB/LR ,SPS, Derasa, GBTA, Zoo's, Fish, Inverts.

04/26/2011, 09:49 PM	#36
Kyleben Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 280	has anyone else noticed if you say tang on this site that 10 people yell at you for having too small for a tank....got a hippo in my 56 :-P __________________ 125 gallon mixed reef 20 gallon mixed nano "If you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull s***"

04/26/2011, 10:16 PM	#39
justin serve Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: grand junction colorado Posts: 8	Plain and simple tangs get big I also have a 90 gallon reef and I have a blue hippo tang and I have had her for 3 to 4 years she has a scorpion fish,hog fish,two green chromes,a tomato clown (female) a yellow and a dwarf lion fish and I can still add some fish with no problem it matters how active your fish are how much waste they create and if your filter can keep up with them. I also have a 135 with a three foot coral banded bamboo shark with angles and tangs and they have been there for three years no problem I also have a 75 bow front with a full grown dog face puffer a full grown panther grouper three feet big and a three foot snow flake eel and they have been there for as years and I have a 35 gallon nano reef and every single one of my tanks has had no problems with fighting over space. So I would say go ahead and put them in there you would be fine just take good care of them and have a really good filter. And plenty of hiding spots and very good water flow

04/26/2011, 10:50 PM	#40
Kyleben Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 280	thats what im saying...like every situation is different...when someone says they have a hippo you have no idea if its 1" or 10" when mine had ich he lived in a 20g qt fine. my pops has a small yellow in a 20g....its shallow and has lots of room to swim. __________________ 125 gallon mixed reef 20 gallon mixed nano "If you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull s***"

04/26/2011, 10:58 PM	#41
Jim.mer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North Bay,Ont Posts: 235	The rule of thumb is you can put two tangs in as long as their not the same shape or colour, __________________ JBJ 12 in the works, I said to my self, my self I said, Maybe i'll go LED No my self said No, MH all the way Current Tank Info: 12 jbj settin up soon, no fish, just inverts, hermits,softies,LPS

04/26/2011, 11:44 PM	#42
dzfish17 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fresno,Ca. Posts: 2,545	I cant believe what I just read. Maybe all those people who want to stop the SW aquarium hobby are right... to many irresponsible aquarists. This is where one of the guys who overstocks or stocks incorrectly will chime in and tell me that I'm crazy because they know their fish are happy being cramped in an inappropriate sized tank. __________________ 600g (96x36x46) FOWLR

04/27/2011, 10:20 AM	#45
Crusty Old Shellback MASVC OG Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Home of the FREE, Thanks to the BRAVE! Posts: 5,089	No probelm keeping them together other than the blue WILL out grow the tank. In my 400 G I had 4 yellows, one blue, and two Naso's along with several other fish and they all got along fine. The Naso's were 12" + for the Male and 10" + for the female. My blue was about 9". __________________ Have you THANKED a Veteran lately for the freedoms you take for granted each day? Best quote ever! "This is a hobby for God sakes and so many people get so uptite. A "hobby" so it should be fun and not a cause to worry or go broke." Paul B Current Tank Info: Tankless for a while. RIP my 8+ yr old pair of Naso tangs, 4 + yr old Moorish Idol

04/27/2011, 12:55 PM	#46
justin serve Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: grand junction colorado Posts: 8	Point being is every one has their deferent experiences and my 125 is very wide and long it's not so tall. And two my 90 gal reef is so not over stocked my blue hippo is 6 inches my yellow tang is about 6 and my scorpion fish is full grown my tomato clown is full grown I just got rid of my hog fish though and so far as my 75 they have not fought or got sick. My 125 is doing really good no problems. But hey I dot manage the 125 the tank I deal with is my 90 the other two is not my problem and I don't over stock the only reason why they put how many gallons the fish needs is for a guid line. Now I think with my blue hippo tang has a dissorter because she has stayed the same size for 2 years and not budge a inch and I do not under feed her to so I got lucky there that's why I say every one has their own experiances with their fish

04/27/2011, 01:09 PM	#49
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	They get bigger then a 6 inches in captivity -- if given the correct environment. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

04/27/2011, 01:48 PM	#50
glenns Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 623	Agreed. __________________ Glenn Current Tank Info: 90G w/20L Sump/Refugium, 6 T5 lights @54W ea., Reef Octopus EXT-PS-120, DSB/LR ,SPS, Derasa, GBTA, Zoo's, Fish, Inverts.

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