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06/09/2008, 05:31 PM | #101 | |
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Now on the 2nd reactor, it would seem to me that the ARM in there could all ready be charged with some bacteria, so what you might do is 1) remove approx. 1/2 or more of the ARM, and replace it with Sulfur (if you could add some NBC #9 good) then reverse the flow by first flowing into the bottom of the " ARM reactor, out the top, then into the SR. With your size tank (system) this might be worth a try... I see what you mean about your test kit(s) hey if your happy that's all that matters.......... In summary with your situation, while VERY flustrating, I think a large part is due to your initial high Nitrates as I too am "stilling cycling" but into a 5 gal. bucket and replishig about 1 gal fresh sea water (salt mix) daliy, hey you know what ? the tank looks great and I'm finally growing coralline alges....looks great...nothing like a slow, steady water change, I don't mind why ? because "failure is not an option" Man I liked that movie...... Good luck and keep us updated... Dick |
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OK, guys I'm back.
Will get updated tonight with all the posts. Wow things really move fast around here djfrankie |
06/10/2008, 12:43 AM | #104 |
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Reef; I got it working! Yes I thought I was being clear enough.
I wanted to use the bottom tap for the output since the recirc pressurizes the bottom of the chamber. But to purge the chamber you have to fill the chamber from below. So I temporarily use the external powerhead to charge the column then unhook it hoping that the finished product will come back up it back into the tank. The influent comes into the column at the top where the recirc pump is creating a lower pressure. This scheme failed with the column next to the tank. The columns top was about 5 inches higher than my tank. Rather like djfrankie's installation. I moved the unit to the floor so it is now entirely below the tank and wah-lah it works great. Drip a second turned way down. I'm going to start testing for nitrite right? |
06/10/2008, 06:13 AM | #105 | |
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no gas is not from bubbles from recirc pump or anything.. just builds up over time.. tonight checked the effluent. 0 nitrate at around 3dps.. so thats a good thing.. going to leave it for another day or so.. then up it a little. I am running the recirc pump full time now.....
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06/10/2008, 09:07 PM | #109 |
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good to hear you're getting results Jarrod!!
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06/10/2008, 09:15 PM | #110 |
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PM me your address, and I'll send you some of the NBC #9 powder if I can find tomorrow. maybe that will help you out a bit. |
06/11/2008, 12:08 PM | #111 |
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my tank gets little cloudy after running this nitrate reactor. Has anyone seen similar?
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06/11/2008, 02:21 PM | #112 |
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only one of the ones I made clouded the tank for a few days...but that was because I forgot to rinse the aragonite first....
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06/11/2008, 07:04 PM | #113 | |
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Yes your right things have been on the move and all are glad your back, as you can see this "thing" continous to grow as you can see by the "new" names here. Nice... Dick |
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06/11/2008, 07:10 PM | #114 | |
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If so, it could mean you must bump up the FR a little more... |
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06/11/2008, 07:34 PM | #115 |
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no smell other than when i vent.. nothing from the effluent... i raised it a few dps tonight
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I have purchased the Korallin item a few weeks ago and have been following the RC denitrator threads with great interest.
The unit has finally started to kick in with the Nitrate levels in the effluent dropping quite dramatically in the last few days. What I did find was that the 1 drop per second is still too fast. You want a very very slow drip rate to enable the bacteria to populate. When I have my nitrates under control I was going to take it offline and replace most of the sulphur with seachem matrix as I read about in other forums. If I dry out the suplhur beads that I have taken out. Would the bacteria remain dormant until I next used it? Lets say in a few months time or even years? So when I do have to replace the suplhur in the reactor. It will cycle a lot faster. |
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Here's my NitrateBioReactor build:
Here's the stuff I started with. Some things changed as the build proceeded. I'm gonna give the LSM sulfur a try since it's way less money. I found this cool flange that is called a test flange. It comes pre-sealed so pressure testing can be done without plugs being needed. The flange has this tab on it that the plumber is supposed to grab with pliers and rip out after testing. The tab actually sticks above the plane which would cause a nasty rocking situation. I used a razor knife to carve the tab below grade. Pipe glued to flange. |
06/12/2008, 02:05 AM | #118 |
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Here's the diffusion plate to keep the media from plugging the recirc port. I Punched it out with my CNC router. First plexy I ever routed. Went off without a hitch. I was stoked! I glued a single rod on it to stand it off the column's bottom. This turned out to be a major sadistic nightmare. I was never able to stick it all the way down the pipe even after about 30 attempts. I finally snapped off the peg. I took a piece of schedule 120 PVC 1-1/2". I drilled it full of a million holes. I dropped it down the barrel. When I had it fairly centered I dropped the plate down the hole. This was followed by a ScotchBrite disk. I followed that with a layer of Matrix. Then a homogenized 50/50 mix of matrix and sulfur up to the top. Followed by another ScotchBrite disk.
Here's the upper port inside and outside views. Vent inside/outside. |
06/12/2008, 02:06 AM | #119 |
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Finished product. As I mentioned I've switched ports. My outlet is at the bottom. The inlet is the top. No external pump needed as long as the unit is below the tank.
So far, 48hrs, no sign of anything happening at 1 drip/min. My tank has more than 500ppm nitrate as is evident by this test. 160ppm is the bottom reading. The sample you are looking at is diluted. It is 0.5ml of tank water mixed with 4.5ml of RO water. That's a 10X dilution up against 160ppm. So I'm really interested in seeing this thing working. |
06/12/2008, 05:54 AM | #120 |
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My new base plate made of 1 1/4" acyrlic
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awesome looking build!!!!!!
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Is ABS pipe ok to use on our tanks? I have heard that its not.....
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06/12/2008, 07:13 AM | #124 |
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Thanks man, no more uni seals for me
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1/8" lip?, 1/2 "bore?, 6" tube?,
Thanks for a reply Steve
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