Ordering "The Package" - Page 2

Red_Six · 06/04/2006, 11:07 PM

Olympus Camedia C-3040.

My tank room, and many other members outstanding tanks, made it into this months Reefkeeping Magazine ReefSlides. Too bad mine was void of any life when the picture was taken

liverock · 06/05/2006, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Red_Six
Thanks for the information on the mantis. I also read the great information that Richard has at the TBS website (Animals you May Want to Remove ). I have confirmed that I have at least 2 mantis. I will try to trap them. I have known from the beginning where one of the mantis lives. I put the bated trap in the tank and drew out the second more colorful mantis. He ran across the entire length of the tank. Neither has gone near the trap yet.

The tank is really quite beautiful. I am very impressed with the rock. I think I will stick to the Gulf biotype. I just need to figure out what reef safe fish I can get that come from the area. There are no fish in the TBS price list. Are there any fish that you sell Richard?

Wish I could, but it takes all my time to keep yall in live rock/sand/critters.....

Richard TBS

Still sitting at .2 ammonia

Mantis number one. Notice how photogenic he is.

I believe this is a Porcelain.

flameangel88 · 06/05/2006, 08:47 AM

Red_Six,

I don't think most of us had much luck in getting the mantis with traps but we done well using the tool from Sears:

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes

In case the link doesn't work this is the part #:
Sears item #00941322000 Mfr. model #41322

Good luck!

btw--those are great pictures and I've to check with my friend to borrow his camera but not sure which he have and if I remember that came out about 3 yrs ago.

Red_Six · 06/05/2006, 09:14 PM

I have had my camera for about 4 1/2 years.

I may have to get and extractor. I would rather not injure any of the mantis or crabs trying to remove them; although I would not mind if the mantis went around eating all of the crabs

I will try the trap for a while.

Here are a few Tunicates. I never heard of them before I got my rock but I have to say I like the way they look a lot. I have seen about 6 different colors but most are small or at odd angles and hard to photograph.

BTW I must have been to the TBS web site 1000 times but I just notice the cool effect of the TBS logo on the main page. Click the logo and drag your mouse around. Nice touch.

Red_Six · 06/11/2006, 02:09 AM

I found this little guy swimming around the tank quite deftly, and then he landed on the glass so I could take a photo. First time I have seen anything like this one. Perhaps someone can identify it. The white dots at its sides are actually appendages that end in curls.

Here are just a couple of random shots. Notice the brittle star in the first photo.

dwculp · 06/11/2006, 05:57 PM

Very nice pictures!! Man, I remember how excited I was when I got part one of my TBS. Part two will look even better!!

I recently got a complate dual 250W metal halide setup for free and I am seriously thinking about going up to a 110 Long for my classroom

Red_Six · 06/18/2006, 01:52 PM

I decided to take some photos of the macro algae on my TBS rock. The macro seemed to be the most stressed from the shipping but it is coming back fine. I personally really like all the different types of macro you get with the TBS rock. I figure once I get a clean up crew and a few fish, the macro will be naturally pruned.

BrianPlankis · 06/18/2006, 10:14 PM

Gorgeous macro algae!!! Also, very nice cup coral shot.

Brian

adam82 · 06/21/2006, 07:34 AM

where did the rock you are using come from?

Red_Six · 06/21/2006, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adam82
where did the rock you are using come from?

Straight from the TBS web site, "Tampa Bay Saltwater is home of the largest Live Rock Farm in the world! We have over four million pounds of live rock under production on a five acre lease site in the Gulf of Mexico, and an Aquaculture site located in the Florida Keys." I believe my rock came from the Gulf of Mexico.

For those interested, Part 2 should arrive by weeks end.

adam82 · 06/21/2006, 09:05 AM

ok cause i heard that the gulf rock is high in phosphates. how long have you had it now?

liverock · 06/21/2006, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adam82
ok cause i heard that the gulf rock is high in phosphates. how long have you had it now?

Correct information about phosphates in live rock is here

http://www.reeferrocks.com/liverock/history.htm

Florida cultured live rock has the least amount of phosphates of ANY live rock in the industry!

TBS

adam82 · 06/21/2006, 11:45 AM

ok sorry i've been corrected. lol. thanks for the info.

adam82 · 06/21/2006, 11:46 AM

does your rock come with all those corals on it?

Red_Six · 06/21/2006, 12:47 PM

Yes. Everything you see in these photos came from TBS with the exception of the 2 photos of the yellow polyps on the first page. Check the "Catalog of Organisms" to see more.

liverock · 06/21/2006, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adam82
ok sorry i've been corrected. lol. thanks for the info.

Hey no problem!!

Is a common misperception of Florida cultured live rock....was a rumor started many years ago when Florida cultured rock first hit the market.......

TBS

adam82 · 06/21/2006, 01:10 PM

wow thats great. i think i might use them for my next tank. im putting together a 44 hex for my wife. nice pics.

Red_Six · 06/22/2006, 05:01 PM

Part 2 is on the way. I pick it up tonight! Until then here a some photos of the beautiful tube coral.

adam82 · 06/23/2006, 06:47 AM

if i have an existing tank up and running with rock fich ect.... been running for years. will my tank still go into the cycle process if i replace my rock with TBS rock?

HowardW · 06/23/2006, 08:59 AM

I wouldn't remove ALL your rock and replace it all at once. A better way may be to leave your rock in the tank and add the new rock in stages and then slowly remove your old rock from the tank.

adam82 · 06/27/2006, 07:37 AM

hey red_six did you get part 2. post some more pics.

doox00 · 06/27/2006, 04:39 PM

that is some amazing looking rock, wow, I want some!!! TBS ever have rock on sale? lol I am to poor to order any haha

what are you going to do with your mantis btw, I would like one if you plan to give them away, setting up a dedicated mantis tank

chrisstankevitz · 06/27/2006, 05:02 PM

I'm starting a 24G nanocube. I spent a few weeks researching before I put water in it.

I wanted to use rack-sprayed-cured live rock to prevent pests. I would also dunk them in 1.04 SG salty water for 60 seconds to evacuate the pests. I don't want worms!

"The Package" seems like a great deal, though. I like the time they spent on the site explaining how to handle and care for the package. However, I am concerned about getting things I do not want: worms, mantis, etc etc. I'm not experienced so I won't know what to kill (how to kill), or what to keep.

1. Is "the package" good for beginners?
2. Is "the package" good for someone who detests pests?
3. Can/should you put "the package" LR into 1.04 SG water to evacuate pests?

Thanks for your help,

Chris

Red_Six · 06/27/2006, 09:49 PM

As promised here are a few photos of Part 2. As usual Richard did an excellent job of packing everything with care. So far no mortalities. I have even spotted a one inch hitchhiking fish, something I wanted more than anything. I am not sure if that was luck or if Richard had anything to do with that. I have rid myself of 2 mantis from Part 1 (both have new homes), but there are several more in the tank now. I hope this little native fish has the instincts to survive these predators.

One of the really cool extras that Richard threw in was a red walking-stick thing. I have no idea what it is and unfortunately I did not get a photo of it before letting it loose in the tank. It is only about 2 inches long. I should have put it in my 10 gallon tank for observations. I hope it shows up again.

The condy anemone is on the loose, moving from the location I placed him. After hearing of other's anemone tails I was not sure I even wanted anemones in my tank, but now that I see them in person, I am very pleased with them.

To answer your questions, from my point of view chrisstankevitz:

1.)Yes. If you do your homework on how to set up and maintain a SW tank, this package is excellent for a beginner.
2.)You are almost guaranteed pest mantis and crabs.
3.)I will leave that question for someone else. Although I target squirted FW to remove mantis, I am not sure what dipping entire rocks in hypo SW would do to all the life.

Now for some hitchhikers.

chrisstankevitz · 06/27/2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

2.)You are almost guaranteed pest mantis and crabs.

Thanks for the reply. What about worms?

06/11/2006, 05:57 PM	#31
dwculp Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,348	Very nice pictures!! Man, I remember how excited I was when I got part one of my TBS. Part two will look even better!! I recently got a complate dual 250W metal halide setup for free and I am seriously thinking about going up to a 110 Long for my classroom __________________ Remember, it will only get worse before it gets worse. Current Tank Info: 10 years - Currently have a 100 FOWLR

06/18/2006, 10:14 PM	#33
BrianPlankis Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,956	Gorgeous macro algae!!! Also, very nice cup coral shot. Brian __________________ Currently redesigning my 90 gallon tank system to support coral and invertebrate breeding. Click on my red house to see the thread with the progress. Current Tank Info: 75 Gallon Reef with 29 gal sump and 8 gal Clownfish species tank

06/21/2006, 07:34 AM	#34
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	where did the rock you are using come from? __________________ Adam Current Tank Info: 150G build in progress

06/21/2006, 09:05 AM	#36
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	ok cause i heard that the gulf rock is high in phosphates. how long have you had it now? __________________ Adam Current Tank Info: 150G build in progress

06/21/2006, 11:45 AM	#38
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	ok sorry i've been corrected. lol. thanks for the info. __________________ Adam Current Tank Info: 150G build in progress

06/04/2006, 11:07 PM	#26
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	Olympus Camedia C-3040. My tank room, and many other members outstanding tanks, made it into this months Reefkeeping Magazine ReefSlides. Too bad mine was void of any life when the picture was taken

06/05/2006, 08:47 AM	#28
flameangel88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 4,080	Red_Six, I don't think most of us had much luck in getting the mantis with traps but we done well using the tool from Sears: http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes In case the link doesn't work this is the part #: Sears item #00941322000 Mfr. model #41322 Good luck! btw--those are great pictures and I've to check with my friend to borrow his camera but not sure which he have and if I remember that came out about 3 yrs ago.

06/05/2006, 09:14 PM	#29
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	I have had my camera for about 4 1/2 years. I may have to get and extractor. I would rather not injure any of the mantis or crabs trying to remove them; although I would not mind if the mantis went around eating all of the crabs I will try the trap for a while. Here are a few Tunicates. I never heard of them before I got my rock but I have to say I like the way they look a lot. I have seen about 6 different colors but most are small or at odd angles and hard to photograph. BTW I must have been to the TBS web site 1000 times but I just notice the cool effect of the TBS logo on the main page. Click the logo and drag your mouse around. Nice touch.

06/11/2006, 02:09 AM	#30
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	I found this little guy swimming around the tank quite deftly, and then he landed on the glass so I could take a photo. First time I have seen anything like this one. Perhaps someone can identify it. The white dots at its sides are actually appendages that end in curls. Here are just a couple of random shots. Notice the brittle star in the first photo.

06/18/2006, 01:52 PM	#32
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	I decided to take some photos of the macro algae on my TBS rock. The macro seemed to be the most stressed from the shipping but it is coming back fine. I personally really like all the different types of macro you get with the TBS rock. I figure once I get a clean up crew and a few fish, the macro will be naturally pruned.

06/21/2006, 11:46 AM	#39
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	does your rock come with all those corals on it? __________________ Adam Current Tank Info: 150G build in progress

06/21/2006, 12:47 PM	#40
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	Yes. Everything you see in these photos came from TBS with the exception of the 2 photos of the yellow polyps on the first page. Check the "Catalog of Organisms" to see more.

06/21/2006, 01:10 PM	#42
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	wow thats great. i think i might use them for my next tank. im putting together a 44 hex for my wife. nice pics. __________________ Adam Current Tank Info: 150G build in progress

06/22/2006, 05:01 PM	#43
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	Part 2 is on the way. I pick it up tonight! Until then here a some photos of the beautiful tube coral.

06/23/2006, 06:47 AM	#44
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	if i have an existing tank up and running with rock fich ect.... been running for years. will my tank still go into the cycle process if i replace my rock with TBS rock?

06/23/2006, 08:59 AM	#45
HowardW Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 1,826	I wouldn't remove ALL your rock and replace it all at once. A better way may be to leave your rock in the tank and add the new rock in stages and then slowly remove your old rock from the tank. __________________ Florida live rock addict

06/27/2006, 07:37 AM	#46
adam82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 1,093	hey red_six did you get part 2. post some more pics. __________________ Adam Current Tank Info: 150G build in progress

06/27/2006, 04:39 PM	#47
doox00 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 932	that is some amazing looking rock, wow, I want some!!! TBS ever have rock on sale? lol I am to poor to order any haha what are you going to do with your mantis btw, I would like one if you plan to give them away, setting up a dedicated mantis tank

06/27/2006, 05:02 PM	#48
chrisstankevitz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Santa Barbara, CA, USA Posts: 118	I'm starting a 24G nanocube. I spent a few weeks researching before I put water in it. I wanted to use rack-sprayed-cured live rock to prevent pests. I would also dunk them in 1.04 SG salty water for 60 seconds to evacuate the pests. I don't want worms! "The Package" seems like a great deal, though. I like the time they spent on the site explaining how to handle and care for the package. However, I am concerned about getting things I do not want: worms, mantis, etc etc. I'm not experienced so I won't know what to kill (how to kill), or what to keep. 1. Is "the package" good for beginners? 2. Is "the package" good for someone who detests pests? 3. Can/should you put "the package" LR into 1.04 SG water to evacuate pests? Thanks for your help, Chris

06/27/2006, 09:49 PM	#49
Red_Six Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 174	As promised here are a few photos of Part 2. As usual Richard did an excellent job of packing everything with care. So far no mortalities. I have even spotted a one inch hitchhiking fish, something I wanted more than anything. I am not sure if that was luck or if Richard had anything to do with that. I have rid myself of 2 mantis from Part 1 (both have new homes), but there are several more in the tank now. I hope this little native fish has the instincts to survive these predators. One of the really cool extras that Richard threw in was a red walking-stick thing. I have no idea what it is and unfortunately I did not get a photo of it before letting it loose in the tank. It is only about 2 inches long. I should have put it in my 10 gallon tank for observations. I hope it shows up again. The condy anemone is on the loose, moving from the location I placed him. After hearing of other's anemone tails I was not sure I even wanted anemones in my tank, but now that I see them in person, I am very pleased with them. To answer your questions, from my point of view chrisstankevitz: 1.)Yes. If you do your homework on how to set up and maintain a SW tank, this package is excellent for a beginner. 2.)You are almost guaranteed pest mantis and crabs. 3.)I will leave that question for someone else. Although I target squirted FW to remove mantis, I am not sure what dipping entire rocks in hypo SW would do to all the life. Now for some hitchhikers.