Can 2-part being diluted and used in ATO Reservoir

RioReefr · 03/08/2018, 08:13 PM

I am using Reef Fusion 2-part in my 130 Liter All-in-One (LPS/Fish; No SPS).

I am also using the Smart Micro ATO system with a 10 Liter reserve tank. My evaporation is 2 Liters per day. Since I dose 1mL of Fusion-1 and 1mL of Fusion-2 on a daily basis, I was wondering if I could simply add 5 mL of Fusion-1/ 5mL of Fusion-2 to my reserve tank to essentially let my ATO dose my Ca/Alk for me (??).

1.) Would the combination of the 2 additives in 10 Liter precipitate?
2.) If Yes, what additive (Ca or Alk) would be better to add to my ATO reserve tank?
3.) Also, I add 0.5mL or Red Sea NoPoX on a daily basis. Could this somehow be combined with Reef 1 and/or Reef 2, again something like 2.5mL would be added to the ATO tank?

I am sure someone will suggest a doser, but this is such a small amount that I don't want to drop $300 + on dosing solution.

ramseynb · 03/08/2018, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RioReefr

I am using Reef Fusion 2-part in my 130 Liter All-in-One (LPS/Fish; No SPS).

I am also using the Smart Micro ATO system with a 10 Liter reserve tank. My evaporation is 2 Liters per day. Since I dose 1mL of Fusion-1 and 1mL of Fusion-2 on a daily basis, I was wondering if I could simply add 5 mL of Fusion-1/ 5mL of Fusion-2 to my reserve tank to essentially let my ATO dose my Ca/Alk for me (??).

1.) Would the combination of the 2 additives in 10 Liter precipitate?
2.) If Yes, what additive (Ca or Alk) would be better to add to my ATO reserve tank?
3.) Also, I add 0.5mL or Red Sea NoPoX on a daily basis. Could this somehow be combined with Reef 1 and/or Reef 2, again something like 2.5mL would be added to the ATO tank?

I am sure someone will suggest a doser, but this is such a small amount that I don't want to drop $300 + on dosing solution.

Do you actually have enough consumption to need to dose? If your tank is sucking up calcium like that, I would look into just using kalk with your ATO. I don't think mixing the two-part in a small volume of water would be a good idea.

RCS82 · 03/08/2018, 08:24 PM

How big is your tank? How much water do you change?

Ruu · 03/08/2018, 08:39 PM

In the past, when faced with a tank with either low calcium or alk I have dumped one or the other into my tunze kalk dispenser to help bring things up more smoothly.

If you need both then as others have pointed out, you should probably just use kalk, and if that isn't enough them move to actual dosing.

Dave

DesertReefT4r · 03/08/2018, 08:45 PM

No you can't mix 2 part at all, it will precipitate. 2 part is pricey imo and is great for high demand tanks as are cal reactors. Kalk is cheap and a great method for dosing cal and alk. Kalk is also the only way to dose both with just 1 solution due to kalks chemical makeup and how it reacts with saltwater. It also further purifies you top off water and has small effect on reducing po4. Google and reseach kalk, what it is and does, how to proper dose it in an ATO. BRS TV has a great YouTube video covering kalk. I used it on a 40g and 75g sps dominated reef tanks with a pretty high demand for cal and alk and kalk kept everything very stable. If your demand is currently very low a very small amount of kalk in ATO water or water changes with a good salt will take care it everything. Test daily and see what your tank is using up to determine any dosing needs and to dial in the amount dosed.

OceansMotion · 03/08/2018, 09:30 PM

Technically you can but you need to add a ton of magnesium to bind to the carbonate so it keeps the calcium from reacting with it. With the elevated levels it would not be worth it because of the fact you would overdose very quickly. You could try limewater or soda ash for alk. But you would have to dose the calcium separate. Calcium reactor is the best for both

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bif24701 · 03/08/2018, 10:51 PM

Use Kalk.

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03/08/2018, 08:13 PM	#1
RioReefr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 394	Can 2-part being diluted and used in ATO Reservoir I am using Reef Fusion 2-part in my 130 Liter All-in-One (LPS/Fish; No SPS). I am also using the Smart Micro ATO system with a 10 Liter reserve tank. My evaporation is 2 Liters per day. Since I dose 1mL of Fusion-1 and 1mL of Fusion-2 on a daily basis, I was wondering if I could simply add 5 mL of Fusion-1/ 5mL of Fusion-2 to my reserve tank to essentially let my ATO dose my Ca/Alk for me (??). 1.) Would the combination of the 2 additives in 10 Liter precipitate? 2.) If Yes, what additive (Ca or Alk) would be better to add to my ATO reserve tank? 3.) Also, I add 0.5mL or Red Sea NoPoX on a daily basis. Could this somehow be combined with Reef 1 and/or Reef 2, again something like 2.5mL would be added to the ATO tank? I am sure someone will suggest a doser, but this is such a small amount that I don't want to drop $300 + on dosing solution.

03/08/2018, 08:24 PM	#3
RCS82 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada Posts: 273	How big is your tank? How much water do you change? __________________ After about a 16 year break from fish keeping, Wow, how things have changed. Current Tank Info: 90g, mixed reef, I hope haha

03/08/2018, 08:45 PM	#5
DesertReefT4r Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 771	No you can't mix 2 part at all, it will precipitate. 2 part is pricey imo and is great for high demand tanks as are cal reactors. Kalk is cheap and a great method for dosing cal and alk. Kalk is also the only way to dose both with just 1 solution due to kalks chemical makeup and how it reacts with saltwater. It also further purifies you top off water and has small effect on reducing po4. Google and reseach kalk, what it is and does, how to proper dose it in an ATO. BRS TV has a great YouTube video covering kalk. I used it on a 40g and 75g sps dominated reef tanks with a pretty high demand for cal and alk and kalk kept everything very stable. If your demand is currently very low a very small amount of kalk in ATO water or water changes with a good salt will take care it everything. Test daily and see what your tank is using up to determine any dosing needs and to dial in the amount dosed. __________________ Tank history 29g tropical ,55g cichlid tank, 20H softy reef, 29g mixed reef, 20H brackish goby & puffer tank, 55g mixed reef, 6g Nanocube softy lps reef, 40B sps reef, 75g sps reef, 75g sps reef in bu Current Tank Info: 75g sps reef build in the works.

03/08/2018, 10:51 PM	#7
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Use Kalk. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

03/08/2018, 08:39 PM	#4
Ruu Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 1,037	In the past, when faced with a tank with either low calcium or alk I have dumped one or the other into my tunze kalk dispenser to help bring things up more smoothly. If you need both then as others have pointed out, you should probably just use kalk, and if that isn't enough them move to actual dosing. Dave

03/08/2018, 09:30 PM	#6
OceansMotion Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 26	Technically you can but you need to add a ton of magnesium to bind to the carbonate so it keeps the calcium from reacting with it. With the elevated levels it would not be worth it because of the fact you would overdose very quickly. You could try limewater or soda ash for alk. But you would have to dose the calcium separate. Calcium reactor is the best for both Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk