Regal Angel Primer - Page 237

this is me · 05/01/2018, 03:13 PM

That's encouraging and good to hear Carrot.
Is that avatar a picture of it?

carrots · 05/01/2018, 06:22 PM

Thanks Nick. My avatar is a regal I got about two years ago from a LFS. when I got her she was about 1.5 inches. Now she is about 3.75 inches. Photo was from a year ago.

Pinkskunk · 05/01/2018, 08:29 PM

I am happy for you. That is great news.

bidny · 05/07/2018, 05:28 PM

Happy to report the the 3" regal I picked up from Diver's Den has been doing very well. Eating pretty much anything at this point: pellets, frozen, liquid, flakes. It's in quarantine for the time being.

OrionN · 05/08/2018, 04:42 AM

I am happy to report that I am back in Regal Angels keeping. I got two baby Regal from Alton about 10 days ago. Both are doing great in my 320 DT. Still in the rock work mostly but swim out fairly often. The two tangs did not give them much grieve. The smaller of the two got a small piece of the tail missing but healing well. They are eating well. The larger of the two still take a run at the smaller on on occasion, but she evade it easily. I never did see any contact or injury from these interaction. Here are pictures of the two and a better picture of the smaller one. Still trying to get a better picture of the larger one.

OrionN · 05/08/2018, 06:33 PM

Pinkskunk · 05/08/2018, 08:04 PM

Very nice! Making me want to hurry up and get one. Putting them straight to dt, dont you worry they may have flukes?

alton · 05/09/2018, 08:54 AM

Since Minh must be busy I will answer your question,’the fish came from my office tank. All my fish before going into qt/ office tank get a 10 to 20 minute fw bath and then a hour or two prazi Pro bath. I have never lost a fish following this method, I have lost fish not using the fw bath.

Pinkskunk · 05/09/2018, 11:35 AM

10-20 mins FW bath? isnt that extreme? i did mine for 9 mins and the fish almost die when i put him back. what is the dosage for your Prazi bath? 1 teaspoons/20gal?

OrionN · 05/09/2018, 11:50 AM

I don't add sick fish to my DT other than ones that have Ich or Lymphocystis (these will just resolve on their own in my tank.
Other than that I don't treat my fish unless I diagnose the problem. I don't prophylactic treat my fishes either. I do have cleaner shrimp and make sure the fish are healthy and not stressed. Often I have them in QT system, If they doing well there, they just go to my DT.

These Regal came from Alton, very healthy and well adjust to aquarium condition and eating well. They went directly to my DT

alton · 05/09/2018, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkskunk

10-20 mins FW bath? isnt that extreme? i did mine for 9 mins and the fish almost die when i put him back. what is the dosage for your Prazi bath? 1 teaspoons/20gal?

On the Prazi .5 ml to 2 gallons as recommended. I do not add anything in my QT, unless the fish starts looking bad. Which I have not had an issue with regals or my Blueface. I am like Minh you don't add chemicals to your fishes water for no reason. I have seen post that make statements if you over use medicines, fish don't seem to last as long. Similar to a human using antibiotics all the time causing C.diff.
The first time I placed an expensive Redsea regal in a freshwater bath I freaked out, but he did not mind it. The reason for the 20 minute statement was I had a redsea regal that loved freshwater. Swam around and actually spit water at me. And in QT if I didn't feed him would start spitting till I fed. Ended up not pairing with another regal so my LFS received a very nice regal. I believe most fish today are lost due to flukes, and I believe there are flukes that are immune to prazi. If a fish in FW goes ballistic, then remove him and maybe acclimate to FW. Some lay on their side which I put back upright, others like Minhs juveys acted like nothing was wrong. For me i have lost too many fish that where not FW bathed.

carrots · 05/09/2018, 07:12 PM

My Regal came in very thin and with flukes. I fresh water dipped it before putting it in a QT. Afterwards there was only a few dead flukes in the bag. After getting the fish to eat, I started a treatment. I have now done two rounds of ProziPro and still haven't been able to rid this fish of them. There has been a fluke hanging on the tail fin for over a week. I was surprised that even after the second round of treatment it is still hanging on. I'm going to try another fresh water dip and then move the regal to a new QT. Maybe try hypo-salinity next.

harley3ky · 05/10/2018, 08:57 AM

Ok guys, I have been following this thread for a while and I have finally decided to take the leap. I just ordered 2 Regals. I have a friend that has a store and he sells to me at cost & shipping. I think the juvenile is a yellow belly and the small one is not. I think I should be picking them up tomorrow and getting them home for QT. I'm going to follow Alton's FW bath & Prazi method but I am nervous as heck and I feel weird for being nervous over a fish.

Any tips or advice you guys want to throw at me? I'm gonna go pick up some extra PVC elbows on the way home for more hiding places in the QT.

saf1 · 05/10/2018, 11:01 AM

Fenner has a good write up on the Wet Web Media site on fresh water dips with Methylene Blue use. I typically don't do fresh water dips but I did recently with a new tang that I couldn't QT and it worked flawlessly. If you search on it you will see they clarify dip and bath which gets to the 5 minute vs. longer. He states that the Methylene Blue is a good oxygenating dye which is why I used it with the dip. To me it made sense. Results, well, I couldn't be happier. Your mileage may vary but that is one of the more reliable sources I found and Mr. Fenner hasn't steered me wrong before.

harley3ky · 05/10/2018, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saf1

Fenner has a good write up on the Wet Web Media site on fresh water dips with Methylene Blue use. I typically don't do fresh water dips but I did recently with a new tang that I couldn't QT and it worked flawlessly. If you search on it you will see they clarify dip and bath which gets to the 5 minute vs. longer. He states that the Methylene Blue is a good oxygenating dye which is why I used it with the dip. To me it made sense. Results, well, I couldn't be happier. Your mileage may vary but that is one of the more reliable sources I found and Mr. Fenner hasn't steered me wrong before.

Thank you for that info. I will read that tonight!

saf1 · 05/10/2018, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harley3ky

Thank you for that info. I will read that tonight!

Your welcome, and good luck. There are a lot of people that participate on this sub forum who have great advice and excellent practice of keeping fish. Regardless of cost - so it is one I always watch. I've not purchased from DD but I have from Live Aquaria so I watch both. This actually regal threat has been helpful. Hope to obtain one of these down the road although I may focus on the more affordable pair of Millesteeds instead.

alton · 05/11/2018, 05:38 AM

Sorry I should of added I add an air stone in all my baths/dips

OrionN · 05/13/2018, 04:49 PM

The larger of my two Regal angels I got from Alton. Many thanks Alton. Love them.

R side

L side

harley3ky · 05/14/2018, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrionN

The larger of my two Regal angels I got from Alton. Many thanks Alton. Love them.

R side

L side

WOW! That is a stunning Regal.

I'm not sure if I am going to be getting mine now or not. Thanks to delays (beyond my control) in getting the order placed it looks like they may have been sold before my guy ordered. I'll know tomorrow. Oh well, if so it will be back to the waiting game.

nav jam · 05/15/2018, 08:03 AM

Depending on where the fish come from, would determine whether I FW dip my fish. My last Regal came from a shop that saved it for a while so I didn’t QT it. It went into my observation tank for 7-10 days then into my DT as it was fine.

I normally place a new fish in my observation tank with no medication to see how it gets on. I only treat if necessary. My last fish came in with flukes so I put it through a 15 minute FW dip. I normally aim for 10 minutes but keep them in longer if they seem ok. The fish seemed fine and could’ve been in there for 20 but 15 seemed sufficient.

I observed the fish for 5 days, it was fin and colour perfect, eyes were clear, breathing and behaving normally and feeding aggressively. I still gave it another 15 minute FW dip just to be certain.

It’s looking great and ready for my DT

Rio1969 · 05/15/2018, 06:40 PM

Good news, today my Regal started eating both Hikari Marine S and PE pellets.

nav jam · 05/17/2018, 04:10 AM

My bigger Regal

Left side
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Right side
image5.jpeg

Smaller Regal

Left side
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Right side
image3.jpeg

OrionN · 05/17/2018, 04:29 AM

That is a very nice misbar pair

alton · 05/17/2018, 05:04 AM

The big question is how do you get two misbars at one time?

nav jam · 05/20/2018, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alton

The big question is how do you get two misbars at one time?

Few months apart. I started with two normal ones that I managed to pair. A misbar came up so I risked it and changed one, resulting in a new pair.

The bigger one then came up a few months later so broke my pair and gambled. It payed off as I managed to pair both misbars.

05/01/2018, 03:13 PM	#5901
this is me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,074	That's encouraging and good to hear Carrot. Is that avatar a picture of it? __________________ Nick When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $4.95 per minute. Current Tank Info: Miracle 360 gallons

05/07/2018, 05:28 PM	#5904
bidny Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lincoln Park, Chicago, IL, USA 60614 Posts: 319	Happy to report the the 3" regal I picked up from Diver's Den has been doing very well. Eating pretty much anything at this point: pellets, frozen, liquid, flakes. It's in quarantine for the time being. __________________ -steven b. bidny Use your reef to educate others on the fragility of the world's oceans. By saving the oceans, we can save the planet. Current Tank Info: 90g Oceanic Tech Tank, 2x Ecotech Vortech MP40wES, Reef Octopus Extreme 160, 2x Deluxe BRS Reactor, 2x Laguna Max-Flo 900, 2x 250w Eheim Jager Heater, 29g Sump/Refugium, 2x Ecotech Radion XR30w Pro G3, Reef Angel Plus Controller

05/08/2018, 04:42 AM	#5905
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	I am happy to report that I am back in Regal Angels keeping. I got two baby Regal from Alton about 10 days ago. Both are doing great in my 320 DT. Still in the rock work mostly but swim out fairly often. The two tangs did not give them much grieve. The smaller of the two got a small piece of the tail missing but healing well. They are eating well. The larger of the two still take a run at the smaller on on occasion, but she evade it easily. I never did see any contact or injury from these interaction. Here are pictures of the two and a better picture of the smaller one. Still trying to get a better picture of the larger one. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

05/08/2018, 06:33 PM	#5906
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	__________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

05/09/2018, 11:50 AM	#5910
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	I don't add sick fish to my DT other than ones that have Ich or Lymphocystis (these will just resolve on their own in my tank. Other than that I don't treat my fish unless I diagnose the problem. I don't prophylactic treat my fishes either. I do have cleaner shrimp and make sure the fish are healthy and not stressed. Often I have them in QT system, If they doing well there, they just go to my DT. These Regal came from Alton, very healthy and well adjust to aquarium condition and eating well. They went directly to my DT __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

05/01/2018, 06:22 PM	#5902
carrots Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mendham, NJ USA Posts: 395	Thanks Nick. My avatar is a regal I got about two years ago from a LFS. when I got her she was about 1.5 inches. Now she is about 3.75 inches. Photo was from a year ago.

05/01/2018, 08:29 PM	#5903
Pinkskunk Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	I am happy for you. That is great news.

05/08/2018, 08:04 PM	#5907
Pinkskunk Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Very nice! Making me want to hurry up and get one. Putting them straight to dt, dont you worry they may have flukes?

05/09/2018, 08:54 AM	#5908
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	Since Minh must be busy I will answer your question,’the fish came from my office tank. All my fish before going into qt/ office tank get a 10 to 20 minute fw bath and then a hour or two prazi Pro bath. I have never lost a fish following this method, I have lost fish not using the fw bath.

05/09/2018, 11:35 AM	#5909
Pinkskunk Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	10-20 mins FW bath? isnt that extreme? i did mine for 9 mins and the fish almost die when i put him back. what is the dosage for your Prazi bath? 1 teaspoons/20gal?

05/09/2018, 07:12 PM	#5912
carrots Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mendham, NJ USA Posts: 395	My Regal came in very thin and with flukes. I fresh water dipped it before putting it in a QT. Afterwards there was only a few dead flukes in the bag. After getting the fish to eat, I started a treatment. I have now done two rounds of ProziPro and still haven't been able to rid this fish of them. There has been a fluke hanging on the tail fin for over a week. I was surprised that even after the second round of treatment it is still hanging on. I'm going to try another fresh water dip and then move the regal to a new QT. Maybe try hypo-salinity next.

05/10/2018, 08:57 AM	#5913
harley3ky Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 85	Ok guys, I have been following this thread for a while and I have finally decided to take the leap. I just ordered 2 Regals. I have a friend that has a store and he sells to me at cost & shipping. I think the juvenile is a yellow belly and the small one is not. I think I should be picking them up tomorrow and getting them home for QT. I'm going to follow Alton's FW bath & Prazi method but I am nervous as heck and I feel weird for being nervous over a fish. Any tips or advice you guys want to throw at me? I'm gonna go pick up some extra PVC elbows on the way home for more hiding places in the QT.

05/10/2018, 11:01 AM	#5914
saf1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 2,259	Fenner has a good write up on the Wet Web Media site on fresh water dips with Methylene Blue use. I typically don't do fresh water dips but I did recently with a new tang that I couldn't QT and it worked flawlessly. If you search on it you will see they clarify dip and bath which gets to the 5 minute vs. longer. He states that the Methylene Blue is a good oxygenating dye which is why I used it with the dip. To me it made sense. Results, well, I couldn't be happier. Your mileage may vary but that is one of the more reliable sources I found and Mr. Fenner hasn't steered me wrong before. __________________ -saf1 Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef

05/11/2018, 05:38 AM	#5917
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	Sorry I should of added I add an air stone in all my baths/dips

05/13/2018, 04:49 PM	#5918
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	The larger of my two Regal angels I got from Alton. Many thanks Alton. Love them. R side L side __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

05/15/2018, 08:03 AM	#5920
nav jam Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 78	Depending on where the fish come from, would determine whether I FW dip my fish. My last Regal came from a shop that saved it for a while so I didn’t QT it. It went into my observation tank for 7-10 days then into my DT as it was fine. I normally place a new fish in my observation tank with no medication to see how it gets on. I only treat if necessary. My last fish came in with flukes so I put it through a 15 minute FW dip. I normally aim for 10 minutes but keep them in longer if they seem ok. The fish seemed fine and could’ve been in there for 20 but 15 seemed sufficient. I observed the fish for 5 days, it was fin and colour perfect, eyes were clear, breathing and behaving normally and feeding aggressively. I still gave it another 15 minute FW dip just to be certain. It’s looking great and ready for my DT

05/15/2018, 06:40 PM	#5921
Rio1969 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Richmond, Texas Posts: 111	Good news, today my Regal started eating both Hikari Marine S and PE pellets.

05/17/2018, 04:10 AM	#5922
nav jam Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 78	My bigger Regal Left side image4.jpeg Right side image5.jpeg Smaller Regal Left side image2.jpg Right side image3.jpeg

05/17/2018, 04:29 AM	#5923
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	That is a very nice misbar pair __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

05/17/2018, 05:04 AM	#5924
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	The big question is how do you get two misbars at one time?