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09/16/2018, 08:26 AM | #1 |
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Best Automatic Water Change System?
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I’ve a 180 gallon system. Lightly populated with fish If I was to do a daily AWC, or weekly, what would you recommend in terms of amount per week or two weeks? (My nitrate and phosphate are almost undetectable) And what system is the best in terms of quality equipment? The Neptune DOS seems a bit plastic!! And amazon reviews don’t seem great or mixed at best
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09/16/2018, 09:47 AM | #2 |
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Check out the Genesis Renew. I’ve been using one for years and there is nothing quicker, more accurate and easy to use. While it’s not cheap, nothing beats the Renew when it comes to AWC. You can change out 1-99 gallons a day, week or continuous and it will change out a gallon every 2-3 minutes and never needs calibration or tubing changes.
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+1 on genesis
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09/16/2018, 07:06 PM | #4 |
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Where can you buy them?
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Looks great! Not many people really talking about it say compared to a Neptune. Surprised it doesn’t get more coverage
So what’s the advantages of this over the Neptune for example? Considering that the Neptune can adapt into so many other functions? Not knocking the Genesis at all, it looks awesome
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As for why it doesn’t get more coverage, it’s mentioned plenty in threads like this. But also consider it’s close to double the cost of a peristaltic pump and has more complex plumbing requirements. Or maybe it’s just the best kept secret!
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09/16/2018, 08:42 PM | #8 |
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Here is part 1 of a 4 part video episode I did on the Renew when installing one on a friends system. You can get to the other parts by clicking the video and viewing it on youtube. Part 1 covers unboxing and an overview of the system. The other parts cover the installation and finally using it.
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This is excellent thanks for breaking it down like that
I do need a robust easy to use system that can do large water changes. I have a 180 gallon system, or 150 display. How many gallons would you suggest changing per month or week or day? I’ll be totally honest. Life’s been crazy I didn’t do a water change in maybe 8 months or more and when I tested nitrate and phosphate I was expecting it through the roof and both were almost undetectable, the system is well established at least, up and running a few years So this probably requires an RODI resovoir, Saltwater made resovoir, and a third resovoir for mixing saltwater
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09/17/2018, 08:11 PM | #11 |
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So what would be the reason to go Neptune or Genesis? It seems the Genesis like you say can move larger volumes, which is good for my 180 gallon system.
So why is all the hype about Neptune? Is there still a place to mix and match and do both or is it one or the other like Mac or PC? What would be the place or function of Neptune if I go the Genesis way?
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09/17/2018, 09:07 PM | #13 |
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Autoaqua awc is easy to use and reasonably priced, and it does water changes and top off BAM!!!
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Build quality is a big concern for me
Everything seems made in China today and plastic I would definitely prefer higher quality pumps, hardware, etc
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Can I just ask, if I buy this with the storm ATO also, are the two systems married or still different?
ie will the drop in water level during the water change trigger the ATO ? Or do they run from the same controller such that the system understands ‘hey I’m not low level in the sump I’m just doing a water change?’ Because if not then why bother with the Genesis Reef Storm? I shot an email off to them last night and waiting to hear back. If I go that direction I would likely buy both Do they do Black Friday? Lol could be waiting if they do good deals
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Scott, do you happen to know if Genesis is going to stay USA only, or are there plans to make a european version (240 volt) ?
This seems a very clever system, and to my knowledge there is absolutely no competion in Europe who can deliver an alternative with the same qualities. Maybe an opportunity for Klaus ? |
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The main reason the Genesis system is likely not used more is just because of space. Logically, I think it's a lot better designed than any other option and it should be the most trouble free and accurate system.
That said I don't own one. Why? Because there is no way it would fit where my system is. I use a LiterMeter set up in my basement and the tubing runs underneath the entire first floor concealed along the ceiling of a finished basement. A peristaltic pump set up is just the easiest for such an install. If I could go the Genesis route, I would do that in a heartbeat. Less calibrating and more consistent. FB
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Any idea on what is going on with genesis reef systems? I ordered a week ago and have yet to get a response back or a shipping notice.
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~18mths ago I went to tractor supply and got two large water holding tanks. Set them up in my basement as a mixing station. One is where I make RO/DI water and the other mix. Ran three 1/4inch RO pipes and the Neptune link cable thru my house HVAC vent up to where my display tank is. Two are used for the AWC and the thrird ATO. Neptune DOS and ATOv2 pump down in the basement. I actually bought two ATOv2 (black Friday deal) and use the extra sensors to monitor levels at my mixing station. That and I've a spare ATO pump (I read these things go bad over time.)
Yes these Neptune DOS things are LOUD. NO way do I want them up by my tank. Yet in the basement - I don't care. I followed the guys at BRS recommendation on 3% water changes per day for first year then 2% per day. Right now I turn my entire take once per month. My storage tanks are the same size as my DT. Thus I have a once a month maintenance routine to make salt. I run my tank with bare bottom. In 18mths I've not touched a single bucket of water. The Neptune DOS is 100% spot on accurate and I can't be more pleased I set up my first reef in 1993, and I have to say this AWC setup, while expensive is the best thing I've ever done. I was ready to get out of the hobby due to the W/C needs. Last edited by Pokerman11; 12/16/2020 at 12:00 PM. |
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