If You Live Far From Sea

aby · 01/11/2018, 12:00 PM

How do I get a saltwater when I live far from sea?

Str8linespeed · 01/11/2018, 12:22 PM

Im not sure if your serious or not, but if you are... You purchase salt from places like this

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tank-.../salt-mix.html

You then mix it to your specific gravity for your tank. Always add RO/DI water first to your bucket, then add salt.

aby · 01/11/2018, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8linespeed

Im not sure if your serious or not, but if you are... You purchase salt from places like this

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tank-.../salt-mix.html

You then mix it to your specific gravity for your tank. Always add RO/DI water first to your bucket, then add salt.

How is this work? Is it like mix the salt with freshwater?

MondoBongo · 01/11/2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aby

How is this work? Is it like mix the salt with freshwater?

you would get an RODI (Reverse Osmosis with a De-ionization stage) water filter unit, and make yourself some 0 TDS (Total Dissolved Solids in Parts Per Million) then mix in the salt until you get the right amount.

you can also often buy premixed saltwater from your local fish stores, but that's usually pretty expensive.

aby · 01/11/2018, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8linespeed

Im not sure if your serious or not, but if you are... You purchase salt from places like this

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tank-.../salt-mix.html

You then mix it to your specific gravity for your tank. Always add RO/DI water first to your bucket, then add salt.

What do you mean with "specific gravity"? How do I do that?

billdogg · 01/11/2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aby

What do you mean with "specific gravity"? How do I do that?

Have you read ANY of the stickies at the top of this forum?????? Start there. Read THEM ALL, then post any questions that aren't already answered there!

from some of your other posts, it would seem that you already have a tank running. I'm just not sure how if you are asking a question like this.

Tripod1404 · 01/11/2018, 04:36 PM

99% of people who live near the ocean doesnt get it from the sea as well. I would not trust any saltwater source near a major metro area.

saf1 · 01/11/2018, 05:01 PM

@Tripod1404 - I'm somewhat near being in Sacramento but you raise an interesting point. I wouldn't grab water out of the San Francisco Bay for sure but there are some surrounding areas up North I'd be willing to grab from. Interesting enough with our drought prior to last year that was going to be my solution. Do a day dive trip in Monterey then fill up a couple 50 gallon drums of NSW and lug it back. Even wrote the California Water Resource Control Board to find areas I could pull from, well, because I'm in California and everything is against the law.

They actually replied and said it was a great idea and has long as I stay out of the marine sanctuaries and parks I was ok to take. Only other word was if any animals are breeding or resting I have to go elsewhere. Still on option on the table that I could store 100 gallons or so since it has a good shelf life. Just drain from the top and let the sediment stay on the bottom.

aby · 01/11/2018, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripod1404

99% of people who live near the ocean doesnt get it from the sea as well. I would not trust any saltwater source near a major metro area.

Why? Is it because sea near major metro area is dirty or contaminate with dangerous substance?

Tripod1404 · 01/11/2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saf1

@Tripod1404 - I'm somewhat near being in Sacramento but you raise an interesting point. I wouldn't grab water out of the San Francisco Bay for sure but there are some surrounding areas up North I'd be willing to grab from. Interesting enough with our drought prior to last year that was going to be my solution. Do a day dive trip in Monterey then fill up a couple 50 gallon drums of NSW and lug it back. Even wrote the California Water Resource Control Board to find areas I could pull from, well, because I'm in California and everything is against the law.

They actually replied and said it was a great idea and has long as I stay out of the marine sanctuaries and parks I was ok to take. Only other word was if any animals are breeding or resting I have to go elsewhere. Still on option on the table that I could store 100 gallons or so since it has a good shelf life. Just drain from the top and let the sediment stay on the bottom.

As long as the water is not coming from a metro area or close to a major river drainage, it should be fine. California current runs west to east and north to south direction. So as long as you get it from north of Sf, it is basically water coming from north/central pacific, but if you go south of sf, you will get water flowing trough and around bay area, I would not do that.

Tripod1404 · 01/11/2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aby

Why? Is it because sea near major metro area is dirty or contaminate with dangerous substance?

yes, storm drains and agricultural runoff makes water unsuitable.

thegrun · 01/11/2018, 08:21 PM

...and you run the risk if introducing parasites and other unwanted hitchhikers into your tank.

rfgonzo · 01/11/2018, 11:07 PM

Hook, Line and Sinker?

aby · 01/12/2018, 02:09 AM

What about whitespot fish disease? Isn't this disease spread much more in freshwater+salt than a pure seawater?

Green Chromis · 01/12/2018, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripod1404

99% of people who live near the ocean doesnt get it from the sea as well. I would not trust any saltwater source near a major metro area.

Hi, I live within a 25 mile area of a major metropolitan city, and I use nothing but NSW, that I collect locally. Nothing better, and always fun to collect. Are you one of those aquarist who use dead rock over live rock, because of the fear of hitchhikers?

sde1500 · 01/12/2018, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by billdogg

Have you read ANY of the stickies at the top of this forum?????? Start there. Read THEM ALL, then post any questions that aren't already answered there!

from some of your other posts, it would seem that you already have a tank running. I'm just not sure how if you are asking a question like this.

I was answering Op's question about raising phyto and pods on another thread. The questions they ask are making my head spin

billdogg · 01/12/2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aby

What about whitespot fish disease? Isn't this disease spread much more in freshwater+salt than a pure seawater?

No. Absolutely not.

Once again READ THE STICKIES.

Could you maybe give us a little background on yourself? I would really like to help you out (as would many others) but it is a little difficult because I know nothing about who I am talking to.

PM me if you would prefer.

mcgyvr · 01/12/2018, 07:49 AM

aby,
Please spend a few hours reading all of this information in these collected posts in the link I'm including below..
This will cover many of the basics and answer quite a few of your questions I'm sure..

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1031074

sde1500 · 01/12/2018, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billdogg

No. Absolutely not.

Once again READ THE STICKIES.

Could you maybe give us a little background on yourself? I would really like to help you out (as would many others) but it is a little difficult because I know nothing about who I am talking to.

PM me if you would prefer.

I second this. Always easier to help people who are active, and give details of what they have as a set up, or are looking to set up. Its why I kept asking in your phyto thread why you wanted to raise phyto. I'll still stand by my statement you don't need to, and shouldn't yet. Actually, Ima go ahead and double down on that, DONT raise phyto yet. You need sterile water, which would be you making saltwater, which is the topic of this thread sorta.

So, do you have a tank? Or are you still planning one out? How big? Based on this thread, are you planning on using Natural sea water? Or do you want to learn how to make artificial? What fish do you want that you want to raise copepods for? Do you have any previous experience keeping fish, fresh or salt?

hkgar · 01/13/2018, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rfgonzo

Hook, Line and Sinker?

Ya think? Just maybe.

aby · 01/14/2018, 05:49 PM

What is the content of seawater (or saltwater). The only I know is "salt". What other substances contain in seawater? Can I buy it too like "reef salt" to mix it with the freshwater?

SRQreef3r · 01/14/2018, 06:03 PM

I would read the stickies like people have suggested, but yes a reef salt mixed with RODI freshwater works great. i live right by the ocean and have never used natural ocean saltwater, nor have i heard of anyone doing so

aby · 01/14/2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SRQreef3r

I would read the stickies like people have suggested, but yes a reef salt mixed with RODI freshwater works great. i live right by the ocean and have never used natural ocean saltwater, nor have i heard of anyone doing so

Can you please show me the link of "stickies" about substance contain in seawater?

scott11106 · 01/14/2018, 06:21 PM

I’m not quite sure if I am amused or annoyed by this thread

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aby · 01/14/2018, 06:47 PM

I am not able to find the Sticky thread.

01/11/2018, 12:00 PM	#1
aby Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 31	If You Live Far From Sea How do I get a saltwater when I live far from sea?

01/11/2018, 05:01 PM	#8
saf1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 2,259	@Tripod1404 - I'm somewhat near being in Sacramento but you raise an interesting point. I wouldn't grab water out of the San Francisco Bay for sure but there are some surrounding areas up North I'd be willing to grab from. Interesting enough with our drought prior to last year that was going to be my solution. Do a day dive trip in Monterey then fill up a couple 50 gallon drums of NSW and lug it back. Even wrote the California Water Resource Control Board to find areas I could pull from, well, because I'm in California and everything is against the law. They actually replied and said it was a great idea and has long as I stay out of the marine sanctuaries and parks I was ok to take. Only other word was if any animals are breeding or resting I have to go elsewhere. Still on option on the table that I could store 100 gallons or so since it has a good shelf life. Just drain from the top and let the sediment stay on the bottom. __________________ -saf1 Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef

01/11/2018, 11:07 PM	#13
rfgonzo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	Hook, Line and Sinker? __________________ 210 gal reef, 75 gal Refuge with 55 Gal sump mixed reef 100 gal Reef, 75 gal Refuge with 55 gal sump. SPS/LPS & 100 gal Japanese Dragon Moray eel tank with 40 gal sump 75 gal Brazilian Dragon Mor

01/12/2018, 07:49 AM	#18
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	aby, Please spend a few hours reading all of this information in these collected posts in the link I'm including below.. This will cover many of the basics and answer quite a few of your questions I'm sure.. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1031074 __________________ Who me?

01/11/2018, 12:22 PM	#2
Str8linespeed Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Oakdale, MN Posts: 461	Im not sure if your serious or not, but if you are... You purchase salt from places like this https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tank-.../salt-mix.html You then mix it to your specific gravity for your tank. Always add RO/DI water first to your bucket, then add salt.

01/11/2018, 04:36 PM	#7
Tripod1404 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,821	99% of people who live near the ocean doesnt get it from the sea as well. I would not trust any saltwater source near a major metro area.

01/11/2018, 08:21 PM	#12
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	...and you run the risk if introducing parasites and other unwanted hitchhikers into your tank.

01/12/2018, 02:09 AM	#14
aby Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 31	What about whitespot fish disease? Isn't this disease spread much more in freshwater+salt than a pure seawater?

01/14/2018, 05:49 PM	#21
aby Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 31	What is the content of seawater (or saltwater). The only I know is "salt". What other substances contain in seawater? Can I buy it too like "reef salt" to mix it with the freshwater?

01/14/2018, 06:03 PM	#22
SRQreef3r Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 50	I would read the stickies like people have suggested, but yes a reef salt mixed with RODI freshwater works great. i live right by the ocean and have never used natural ocean saltwater, nor have i heard of anyone doing so

01/14/2018, 06:21 PM	#24
scott11106 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Fletcher, NC Posts: 70	I’m not quite sure if I am amused or annoyed by this thread Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01/14/2018, 06:47 PM	#25
aby Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 31	I am not able to find the Sticky thread.