Kessil h80 or not?

redlazer · 12/06/2017, 11:32 AM

Is the Kessil H80 worth the $120-130? Or is it better to go with a cheap grow light off Amazon for a refugium?

humphreyhh · 12/06/2017, 11:45 AM

Depends on deep and width of your fuge. H80 will not provide huge coverage. I use A80 for my anemones in a small tank. It works great for them. For refugium I think a cheaper light can work. For A80, it covers about 12” diameter. I would expect a similar coverage for H80.

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redlazer · 12/06/2017, 12:33 PM

My refugium best I can remember it is going to be built by Jeff at lifereef 20 tall 20 long and only 12.5 wide.

drtrash · 12/06/2017, 06:31 PM

That size is perfect for h80, i tried the cheap cf bulbs but growth was flat, tried h80 chaeto filled up fuge.

redlazer · 12/06/2017, 06:58 PM

I’m verifying it is 20in tall. I need to make sure I have 12in of clearance between the h380 and the refugium if I’m going to use it. If not I will have to use the h80.

LQT · 12/06/2017, 08:24 PM

The H80 at only 15 watts will have a tough time penetrating a 20” deep refugium. I bought one to cover a 10x8x12 inch refugium in my Eshopps R-200 sump. Never actually put it to use as I scored a Turbo’s Aquatics ATS.

redlazer · 12/06/2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LQT

The H80 at only 15 watts will have a tough time penetrating a 20” deep refugium. I bought one to cover a 10x8x12 inch refugium in my Eshopps R-200 sump. Never actually put it to use as I scored a Turbo’s Aquatics ATS.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t cheto tends to float to the top. I’m may or may not put any mangroves in it or other micro algae.

LQT · 12/06/2017, 09:03 PM

Based on a lot of the reviews I’ve read, the H80 will be quite underpowered for a 20x12.5x20 inch area. Because of the length coupled with the narrow width of your fuge, I’d go with two of the Taotronics 36watt grow lights from Amazon...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HP...otronics&psc=1

And here are the heavy duty goosenecks you’ll need to mount those bulbs over your fuge...

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/3279...2963bfebf6W0uq

drtrash · 12/07/2017, 07:35 AM

Mine never floated till fuge was filled, always at bottom. Depends alot on flow and size of mass

ca1ore · 12/07/2017, 11:12 AM

I'm using the h380 which is outstanding for growing chaeto. h80 is much smaller so perhaps a push for anything more then 12x12x12.

redlazer · 12/07/2017, 02:32 PM

Yeah I have verified my refugium is 18in tall 20in long. If I install a h380 it would only be 6-6.5 in above the refugium. Talked again to BRS today they recommend running 2 h80s.

LQT · 12/07/2017, 02:35 PM

20” depth penetration is going to be a tall order for a 15 watt H80... pun intended.

redlazer · 12/07/2017, 02:41 PM

Hey it is only 18in tall after I verified but you know us guys always want it bigger than it is lol

redlazer · 12/07/2017, 03:51 PM

Does anyone have experience with the Ohmax 37w led grow light?

JohnnyHildo · 12/07/2017, 04:58 PM

i run an h80 to grow some chaeto but it's in a small space which is why i chose that specific light. i agree that 12x12x12 is probably the optimal size of fuge for that light.

frankv702 · 12/07/2017, 11:12 PM

I used a kessil h150 purple for a while on my refugium and it was an amazing light. Now it’s just sitting and collecting dust since I built my own leds for my algae scrubber.

ca1ore · 12/07/2017, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redlazer

Yeah I have verified my refugium is 18in tall 20in long. If I install a h380 it would only be 6-6.5 in above the refugium. Talked again to BRS today they recommend running 2 h80s.

The h380 at 6 inches will bleach the heck out of the chaeto. I have a bit of that problem and mine is 12 inches up.

redlazer · 12/08/2017, 03:46 AM

Well I get 2 Kessil h150s grow lamps for cheap last night

LQT · 12/08/2017, 05:41 AM

Nice score!

milkman754 · 07/13/2020, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LQT

The H80 at only 15 watts will have a tough time penetrating a 20” deep refugium. I bought one to cover a 10x8x12 inch refugium in my Eshopps R-200 sump. Never actually put it to use as I scored a Turbo’s Aquatics ATS.

Do you want to sell the h80?

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LQT · 07/13/2020, 04:58 PM

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Do you want to sell the h80?

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Sorry, sold it off awhile ago... that post was almost 3 years ago!

milkman754 · 07/13/2020, 07:10 PM

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Sorry, sold it off awhile ago... that post was almost 3 years ago!

LOL it was worth a shot! Thanks!

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12/06/2017, 11:32 AM	#1
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Kessil h80 or not? Is the Kessil H80 worth the $120-130? Or is it better to go with a cheap grow light off Amazon for a refugium?

12/06/2017, 08:24 PM	#6
LQT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 1,516	The H80 at only 15 watts will have a tough time penetrating a 20” deep refugium. I bought one to cover a 10x8x12 inch refugium in my Eshopps R-200 sump. Never actually put it to use as I scored a Turbo’s Aquatics ATS. __________________ - Leon (aka - Water Dog) Deep Blue 57 Edge ATI Acro Garden Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25573384#post25573384 Current Tank Info: DeepBlue 57 Edge

12/06/2017, 09:03 PM	#8
LQT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 1,516	Based on a lot of the reviews I’ve read, the H80 will be quite underpowered for a 20x12.5x20 inch area. Because of the length coupled with the narrow width of your fuge, I’d go with two of the Taotronics 36watt grow lights from Amazon... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HP...otronics&psc=1 And here are the heavy duty goosenecks you’ll need to mount those bulbs over your fuge... https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/3279...2963bfebf6W0uq __________________ - Leon (aka - Water Dog) Deep Blue 57 Edge ATI Acro Garden Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25573384#post25573384 Current Tank Info: DeepBlue 57 Edge Last edited by LQT; 12/07/2017 at 07:59 AM. Reason: Additional information

12/07/2017, 11:12 AM	#10
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I'm using the h380 which is outstanding for growing chaeto. h80 is much smaller so perhaps a push for anything more then 12x12x12. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

12/07/2017, 02:35 PM	#12
LQT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 1,516	20” depth penetration is going to be a tall order for a 15 watt H80... pun intended. __________________ - Leon (aka - Water Dog) Deep Blue 57 Edge ATI Acro Garden Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25573384#post25573384 Current Tank Info: DeepBlue 57 Edge

12/06/2017, 11:45 AM	#2
humphreyhh Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 581	Depends on deep and width of your fuge. H80 will not provide huge coverage. I use A80 for my anemones in a small tank. It works great for them. For refugium I think a cheaper light can work. For A80, it covers about 12” diameter. I would expect a similar coverage for H80. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/06/2017, 12:33 PM	#3
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	My refugium best I can remember it is going to be built by Jeff at lifereef 20 tall 20 long and only 12.5 wide.

12/06/2017, 06:31 PM	#4
drtrash Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,178	That size is perfect for h80, i tried the cheap cf bulbs but growth was flat, tried h80 chaeto filled up fuge.

12/06/2017, 06:58 PM	#5
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	I’m verifying it is 20in tall. I need to make sure I have 12in of clearance between the h380 and the refugium if I’m going to use it. If not I will have to use the h80.

12/07/2017, 07:35 AM	#9
drtrash Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,178	Mine never floated till fuge was filled, always at bottom. Depends alot on flow and size of mass

12/07/2017, 02:32 PM	#11
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Yeah I have verified my refugium is 18in tall 20in long. If I install a h380 it would only be 6-6.5 in above the refugium. Talked again to BRS today they recommend running 2 h80s.

12/07/2017, 02:41 PM	#13
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Hey it is only 18in tall after I verified but you know us guys always want it bigger than it is lol

12/07/2017, 03:51 PM	#14
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Does anyone have experience with the Ohmax 37w led grow light?

12/07/2017, 04:58 PM	#15
JohnnyHildo Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 669	i run an h80 to grow some chaeto but it's in a small space which is why i chose that specific light. i agree that 12x12x12 is probably the optimal size of fuge for that light. __________________ 120G Standard - 40G Sump. Apex - DOS - ATI Current Tank Info: Acros - Zoas - Palys

12/07/2017, 11:12 PM	#16
frankv702 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 132	I used a kessil h150 purple for a while on my refugium and it was an amazing light. Now it’s just sitting and collecting dust since I built my own leds for my algae scrubber.

12/08/2017, 03:46 AM	#18
redlazer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Well I get 2 Kessil h150s grow lamps for cheap last night

12/08/2017, 05:41 AM	#19
LQT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 1,516	Nice score! __________________ - Leon (aka - Water Dog) Deep Blue 57 Edge ATI Acro Garden Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25573384#post25573384 Current Tank Info: DeepBlue 57 Edge