New 120 Build - Getting back into it

Willistein · 11/09/2018, 10:51 AM

So, I've been on hiatus for over 2 years while we had a house built, but now the house is done(ish)... and I'm finally making a plan to get the system running again!

To start out, I'm looking for a standard 120 gallon tank 48x24x24 with no overflow. The plan is to drill it for a ghost style overflow, modular marine, synergy, etc.

Here we go!

sandworm · 11/09/2018, 07:25 PM

Good for you, I had the same size tank for a couple of years and had good success, I’ve since upgraded to a 180 and if it wasn’t for my ever growing fish I would probably go back. Keep us posted please

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Gary Majchrzak · 11/10/2018, 06:31 AM

good luck, Dan!

mrpergo · 11/10/2018, 06:43 AM

Hey Dan glad to hear you're getting back in
I thought I seen at one time you had water concerns, will that effect any of your plans ?

Willistein · 11/10/2018, 06:58 PM

Didn't have a lot of time today, but I was able to start making the tables for the basement sump and frag tanks. Two 40 gal breeders will be at a right angle to each other. The frag grow out tank will have it's own pump supplying it from the sump and it will overflow back to the sump. That way I can take it offline if needed and the display and sump can stay running.

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block head · 11/11/2018, 08:34 PM

Welcome back . Think pet world had 120 on sale 365? Aqueon if i rember correctly.

Henryz · 11/11/2018, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willistein

So, I've been on hiatus for over 2 years while we had a house built, but now the house is done(ish)... and I'm finally making a plan to get the system running again!

To start out, I'm looking for a standard 120 gallon tank 48x24x24 with no overflow. The plan is to drill it for a ghost style overflow, modular marine, synergy, etc.

Here we go!

Welcome back

Looking forward to watching this build happen. I have been back and forth on upgrading to the same setup.

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Willistein · 11/12/2018, 07:58 AM

basement stand complete. Two coats of oil based enamel (I may do one more). I'm also wondering if I should paint the legs...
A nice feature of the L-shape is that it is very stable.
I was planning on just using one of the 40s as a frag grow out tank, but now I'm wondering if I should find a 24" x 36" x ~12" tall tank... Deep Blue makes a 45gal tank like this:http://www.deepblueprofessional.com/frag.html

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Willistein · 11/14/2018, 08:40 AM

Three coats of paint now - I'm calling the table done.
I need to add an overflow feature and some panels to the sump - does anyone know a good source for acrylic sheets locally, like cutoffs? At $200, I don't need a full sheet.

Willistein · 12/19/2018, 08:34 PM

Man, a month goes by and all I can say is I've built and finished the wall that will go behind the tanks. I'm going to eventually finish the basement, and I didn't want to have to move the tanks out from the wall, so...
If you're curious, I did 1" foam insulation against the block, and then a 2x4 wall in front of it with R13 fiberglass bats. Hopefully 16 outlets will be enough. I put them up at about 5' to keep them above water sources.

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jacksonpt · 12/20/2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Willistein

Man, a month goes by and all I can say is I've built and finished the wall that will go behind the tanks. I'm going to eventually finish the basement, and I didn't want to have to move the tanks out from the wall, so...
If you're curious, I did 1" foam insulation against the block, and then a 2x4 wall in front of it with R13 fiberglass bats. Hopefully 16 outlets will be enough. I put them up at about 5' to keep them above water sources.

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lol... future owners of the home are going scratch their heads at the outlet placement. "*** are those outlets doing up so high???"

Willistein · 12/20/2018, 11:52 AM

Ha ha, I'm sure they'll assume I was just growing something special... Which would be true...lol
That walkout door faces the road

Willistein · 12/21/2018, 07:03 AM

I'm looking for a couple old school SE metal halide fixtures. Hamilton cozumel sun, lumenarc, or similar.

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MarksReef · 12/21/2018, 12:17 PM

I have a PFO single ballast. (If you want just a ballast)

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Originally Posted by Willistein

I'm looking for a couple old school SE metal halide fixtures. Hamilton cozumel sun, lumenarc, or similar.

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Willistein · 12/21/2018, 11:05 PM

Thanks Mark, I don't need the ballasts, just the reflectors. My DIY reflections are getting a bit corroded. I might be interested in your ballast as a backup though, LMK what you want for it. Is it the HQI style (M80)?

Willistein · 12/22/2018, 11:03 AM

Changed the configuration based on where I wanted the sink and plumbing. I'm glad I made the table modular, and that I used screws...

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Willistein · 12/22/2018, 11:04 AM

The drain goes to a daylight about 300' from the house. I figured it would be better to dump salt water out there than in the septic tank.

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block head · 12/22/2018, 09:00 PM

I'm jealous. Don't have a sump pump or drain in my Basement . Going to have to rig up something. I noticed some nasty salt creep on the drywall when i tore down my old tank . I'm considering some type of barrier for my new build. I had a hell of time finding MH equipment when ballast quit. That hydroponic store in greece had some stuff in stock. Guess the plant guys have standardized a lot of the grow equipment. You might get lucky.

Willistein · 12/22/2018, 10:40 PM

All I have on the drywall is a couple coats of high quality paint, and I am wondering if it will be enough. I might put a piece of acrylic on the wall behind the sink. Any other good ideas for wall protection?

mrpergo · 12/23/2018, 07:45 AM

I would suggest using vinyl plank flooring, it's 100% waterproof and looks great.

Srixon · 12/23/2018, 10:24 AM

Dan,
Make sure you flush a lot of fresh water with the water change water it most likely would kill any vegetation surrounding it. Also for a wall covering that is pretty bulletproof I'd use FRP board...its around $34 A 4 x 8 sheet but covers well and cleans up well...they use this in car washes on the walls.

block head · 12/23/2018, 08:01 PM

I'm building a reef /bar / lounge room . Thinking i might do some type of accent wall. Frp board might be a practical/ affordable option. Vinyl plank flooring or wood grain tile are my top choices for flooring.

Willistein · 12/23/2018, 08:29 PM

I'll definitely check out FRP board. Where the pipe dumps out is a grass field area, and amazingly the grass seems unaffected by the softener salt so far. I was thinking of digging a dry-well type thing (hole plus gravel) to help it disappear into the ground.

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Willistein · 12/23/2018, 08:30 PM

Can I find FRP at Lowes/HD?

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Srixon · 12/24/2018, 05:17 AM

I believe that both Lowes and HD carry it

11/09/2018, 10:51 AM	#1
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	New 120 Build - Getting back into it So, I've been on hiatus for over 2 years while we had a house built, but now the house is done(ish)... and I'm finally making a plan to get the system running again! To start out, I'm looking for a standard 120 gallon tank 48x24x24 with no overflow. The plan is to drill it for a ghost style overflow, modular marine, synergy, etc. Here we go!

11/09/2018, 07:25 PM	#2
sandworm Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hannibal NY Posts: 173	Good for you, I had the same size tank for a couple of years and had good success, I’ve since upgraded to a 180 and if it wasn’t for my ever growing fish I would probably go back. Keep us posted please Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ 180g mixed reef

11/10/2018, 06:31 AM	#3
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	looking forward to your updates! good luck, Dan! __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

11/10/2018, 06:43 AM	#4
mrpergo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hilton,N.Y. Posts: 398	Hey Dan glad to hear you're getting back in I thought I seen at one time you had water concerns, will that effect any of your plans ? __________________ 75 gal.,80#LR,20 gal sump, skimmer,pair of RW-8's Pair of Ocellaris Black & White Clowns, Pair of Kaudern Cardinal,One Spot Foxface, Bi-color Blenny, Tomini Tang,Yellow Watchman Goby, Green Mandarin

11/12/2018, 07:58 AM	#8
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	basement stand complete. Two coats of oil based enamel (I may do one more). I'm also wondering if I should paint the legs... A nice feature of the L-shape is that it is very stable. I was planning on just using one of the 40s as a frag grow out tank, but now I'm wondering if I should find a 24" x 36" x ~12" tall tank... Deep Blue makes a 45gal tank like this:http://www.deepblueprofessional.com/frag.html Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Last edited by Willistein; 11/12/2018 at 08:16 AM.

11/10/2018, 06:58 PM	#5
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Didn't have a lot of time today, but I was able to start making the tables for the basement sump and frag tanks. Two 40 gal breeders will be at a right angle to each other. The frag grow out tank will have it's own pump supplying it from the sump and it will overflow back to the sump. That way I can take it offline if needed and the display and sump can stay running. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

11/11/2018, 08:34 PM	#6
block head Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: spencerport ny Posts: 2,619	Welcome back . Think pet world had 120 on sale 365? Aqueon if i rember correctly.

11/14/2018, 08:40 AM	#9
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Three coats of paint now - I'm calling the table done. I need to add an overflow feature and some panels to the sump - does anyone know a good source for acrylic sheets locally, like cutoffs? At $200, I don't need a full sheet.

12/19/2018, 08:34 PM	#10
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Man, a month goes by and all I can say is I've built and finished the wall that will go behind the tanks. I'm going to eventually finish the basement, and I didn't want to have to move the tanks out from the wall, so... If you're curious, I did 1" foam insulation against the block, and then a 2x4 wall in front of it with R13 fiberglass bats. Hopefully 16 outlets will be enough. I put them up at about 5' to keep them above water sources. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

12/20/2018, 11:52 AM	#12
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Ha ha, I'm sure they'll assume I was just growing something special... Which would be true...lol That walkout door faces the road

12/21/2018, 07:03 AM	#13
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	I'm looking for a couple old school SE metal halide fixtures. Hamilton cozumel sun, lumenarc, or similar. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

12/21/2018, 11:05 PM	#15
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Thanks Mark, I don't need the ballasts, just the reflectors. My DIY reflections are getting a bit corroded. I might be interested in your ballast as a backup though, LMK what you want for it. Is it the HQI style (M80)?

12/22/2018, 11:03 AM	#16
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Changed the configuration based on where I wanted the sink and plumbing. I'm glad I made the table modular, and that I used screws... Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

12/22/2018, 11:04 AM	#17
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	The drain goes to a daylight about 300' from the house. I figured it would be better to dump salt water out there than in the septic tank. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

12/22/2018, 09:00 PM	#18
block head Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: spencerport ny Posts: 2,619	I'm jealous. Don't have a sump pump or drain in my Basement . Going to have to rig up something. I noticed some nasty salt creep on the drywall when i tore down my old tank . I'm considering some type of barrier for my new build. I had a hell of time finding MH equipment when ballast quit. That hydroponic store in greece had some stuff in stock. Guess the plant guys have standardized a lot of the grow equipment. You might get lucky.

12/22/2018, 10:40 PM	#19
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	All I have on the drywall is a couple coats of high quality paint, and I am wondering if it will be enough. I might put a piece of acrylic on the wall behind the sink. Any other good ideas for wall protection?

12/23/2018, 07:45 AM	#20
mrpergo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hilton,N.Y. Posts: 398	I would suggest using vinyl plank flooring, it's 100% waterproof and looks great. __________________ 75 gal.,80#LR,20 gal sump, skimmer,pair of RW-8's Pair of Ocellaris Black & White Clowns, Pair of Kaudern Cardinal,One Spot Foxface, Bi-color Blenny, Tomini Tang,Yellow Watchman Goby, Green Mandarin

12/23/2018, 10:24 AM	#21
Srixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Farmington, NY Posts: 757	Dan, Make sure you flush a lot of fresh water with the water change water it most likely would kill any vegetation surrounding it. Also for a wall covering that is pretty bulletproof I'd use FRP board...its around $34 A 4 x 8 sheet but covers well and cleans up well...they use this in car washes on the walls. __________________ Don Havens Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon Ecotech SCA Cube

12/23/2018, 08:01 PM	#22
block head Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: spencerport ny Posts: 2,619	I'm building a reef /bar / lounge room . Thinking i might do some type of accent wall. Frp board might be a practical/ affordable option. Vinyl plank flooring or wood grain tile are my top choices for flooring.

12/23/2018, 08:29 PM	#23
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	I'll definitely check out FRP board. Where the pipe dumps out is a grass field area, and amazingly the grass seems unaffected by the softener salt so far. I was thinking of digging a dry-well type thing (hole plus gravel) to help it disappear into the ground. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

12/23/2018, 08:30 PM	#24
Willistein Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wheatland, NY Posts: 2,585	Can I find FRP at Lowes/HD? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

12/24/2018, 05:17 AM	#25
Srixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Farmington, NY Posts: 757	I believe that both Lowes and HD carry it __________________ Don Havens Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon Ecotech SCA Cube