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Unread 09/14/2014, 06:15 PM   #1
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Smile Are Paly's Esier to Keep than Zoanthids?

Are Paly's Easier to Keep than Zoanthids?

I ask because it seems that I can keep Paly's for long periods of time (I have Green Implosions that are 3 Years Old).

But it seems that I might get 6 Months to a Year out of Zoanthids and they Die off (I do not know if it is from Zoanthid Eating Nudibranch's, Spiders, or Zoa POX, etc.)

For the last year I have been Dipping all my Zoanthids in Revive (Something that I never did before) and they are doing great until now.

Some are not opening up all the time and some are getting Zoa Pox.

But the Paly's all look great which leads me to believe that Paly's are Easier to keep than Zoanthids.

What do you guys think?

What are your experiences with Zoanthids and Paly's?


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Unread 09/15/2014, 07:07 PM   #2
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Anybody have any thoughts on this?


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Unread 09/16/2014, 01:28 PM   #3
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have you tried feeding them occasionaly?


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Unread 09/16/2014, 09:42 PM   #4
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have you tried feeding them occasionaly?
Feeding them with what?

Zoanthids don't eat anything.


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Unread 09/16/2014, 09:54 PM   #5
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Your not alone!! Been reefing for 5yrs and have never been able to keep a Zoa longer then 6months. For now I've given up and have directed my interest elsewhere...SPS


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Unread 09/16/2014, 10:21 PM   #6
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Your not alone!! Been reefing for 5yrs and have never been able to keep a Zoa longer then 6months. For now I've given up and have directed my interest elsewhere...SPS
Do you have problems with other things too?

SPS is easy for me.

Zoanthids, Plates, Chalices, Acans die on me.


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Unread 09/17/2014, 09:47 AM   #7
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Are Paly's Esier to Keep than Zoanthids?

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Do you have problems with other things too?



SPS is easy for me.



Zoanthids, Plates, Chalices, Acans die on me.

Never tried SPS until now. Got 1 Birds Nest that is doing very well. Everything else thrives! Most of my LPS I've had for 5+yrs. Shrooms go crazy! Plates do so well that they are a must have for me


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Unread 09/17/2014, 02:48 PM   #8
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Feeding them with what?



Zoanthids don't eat anything.

Mine eat lots of stuff. Target feed oyster feast and see what happens for yourself


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Unread 09/18/2014, 03:06 PM   #9
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I find palys to do better than zoas.. they just seem to be a little hardier and forgiving of water chemistry swings, pox, lighting. I have both and I lost more zoas to one or more of these problems than palys.


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Unread 09/18/2014, 09:40 PM   #10
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I find palys to do better than zoas.. they just seem to be a little hardier and forgiving of water chemistry swings, pox, lighting. I have both and I lost more zoas to one or more of these problems than palys.
Have your Paly's ever gotten POX, Nudi's, Spiders, etc.

The Paly's that you have lost what did you lose them too?


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Unread 09/19/2014, 04:39 AM   #11
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Only been reefing for a year and a half but have had success with both palys and zoas. Tank is 90% soft corals. About once a week I broadcast feed Coral Frenzy, once in awhile I'll even use Coral Frenzy and target feed them. A couple of times I've seen a zoa coloney shrinking, luckly I've been able to dip those colonies and they came right back. Leading me to believe that they were being bothered by worms (saw them after dipping), spiders or something else.


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Unread 09/19/2014, 06:35 AM   #12
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My plays were in the tank when pox took out half my zoa collection. They were Unaffected except 2 little colony's of pe. And they made it as well.


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Unread 09/19/2014, 06:58 AM   #13
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My plays were in the tank when pox took out half my zoa collection. They were Unaffected except 2 little colony's of pe. And they made it as well.
That is good to know.

How fast did it take for the Pox to kill half your Zoanthids?


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Unread 09/19/2014, 08:20 AM   #14
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Noticed my zoos closed up when I increased the alk level in the tank. The pays didn't seem to care. Mabey the zoos don't tolerate change as well.


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Unread 09/19/2014, 08:04 PM   #15
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I've never thought about that, but my pink palys just survived a round of some kind of fungus that took out most my zoas, even though they were on the same rock.

Maybe i'll just stick to Palys now.


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Unread 09/19/2014, 09:08 PM   #16
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Noticed my zoos closed up when I increased the alk level in the tank. The pays didn't seem to care. Mabey the zoos don't tolerate change as well.
What is your Alkalinity at?

I raised mine from 6.9 to 8.2 and they opened up more than usual.


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Unread 09/22/2014, 10:20 PM   #17
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My experience with z's and p's is NO on low alk. They love it around 8-10DKH, pH I've gone from 8.1-8.4.

They don't like too much fluctuations.


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Unread 09/23/2014, 12:33 AM   #18
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My experience with z's and p's is NO on low alk. They love it around 8-10DKH, pH I've gone from 8.1-8.4.

They don't like too much fluctuations.
What about

Temperature
Salinity
Calcium
Magnesium

Are they sensitive to any of that stuff too?

What Levels do they prefer?


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Unread 09/23/2014, 03:51 PM   #19
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I find them about the same. Care is almost the same.


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Unread 09/23/2014, 11:37 PM   #20
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Unread 09/24/2014, 12:18 AM   #21
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I know the general target numbers but some corals are different.

For instance people say that Chalices like Magnesium in the 1600's and Low Alkalinity.

But most people say to shoot for 1350 Alkalinity.

I was wondering if Zoanthids and Paly's preferred things a certain way like Chalices do?


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most of mine don't like low alk... I rarely measure mag, but ensure temp,Cal, ph, alk, sal are on par.


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Unread 09/24/2014, 11:43 AM   #23
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All corals are easy. Except ones you have to hand feed like suns.


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Unread 09/25/2014, 10:27 AM   #24
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All corals are easy. Except ones you have to hand feed like suns.
Provided the right conditions MOST corals are "easy". There are a number of corals that most people find hard to care for even when given the so thought correct conditions. If you feed Sun corals the right way they are fairly easy as well. Saying all corals are easy is a little vague though.


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