Hybrid Onyx perc with Black Ocellaris - Page 3

Sanjay · 08/29/2009, 07:29 PM

Yes, the male is dead. There is no hype here.

I now have the female paired with one of its young, and they spawned for the first time last week, but the eggs were all eaten. I am hoping they spawn again. This will also provide further evidence on the fertility of these fish.

sanjay.

bencozzy · 08/29/2009, 07:37 PM

ok so from everything ive seen hybrids in the same complex are usually fertile. also the hybrids of melanistic polymnus and sebea, f1s are dark but their f2 offspring are even darker. something to do with a strengthing of the melanistic gene.

a nice dark all black fish with no stripes would be sweet looking, any takers on making this happen??

or how about a a black photon hybridized with a white stripe maroon clown, that would look sweet!!

oceancube78 · 08/30/2009, 11:55 AM

man all this clownfish breeding and stuff reminds me of my ball pythons,, everyone's trying to make new designs or colors lol should be cool to see the new clownfish, or what other type percula someone creates..

austinh · 08/30/2009, 03:01 PM

awesome clowns i like the mostly black look

tufacody · 08/30/2009, 03:55 PM

Very glad to hear that the line will live on. I have a pair that are adorable and will soon get their own tank.

Sanjay - how are they taking to BTA? Any nem suggestions for them?

Sanjay · 08/30/2009, 06:48 PM

They are taking quite easily to BTAs, from what I have heard from others.

sanjay.

Sanjay · 09/07/2009, 10:22 PM

As you can see from the picture below.. the hybrids are fertile !. This a pairing of the original mother with the hybrid offspring.

sanjay.

OrionN · 09/07/2009, 10:29 PM

Sorry if you mentioned this before. Is the mother the Black ocellaris or the Onyx percula?

OrionN · 09/07/2009, 10:32 PM

Nevermind. I read your article again and got the information I wanted to know. From the picture, the black Ocellaris got to be one of the most beautiful black Ocellaris I ever saw. Sorry that you lost him.

Sugar Magnolia · 09/08/2009, 08:50 AM

Awesome Sanjay!!

E.intheC · 09/09/2009, 07:05 PM

great looking fish! (looks like you'll have some more offspring as well!)

Kinetic · 10/25/2009, 02:10 AM

so sorry to hear about the male. is all this inbreeding going to have some adverse effects? just curious as a very naive fish person.

My pair have been doing really well now for 2 months. They've of course ignored the BTA and host the hard corner of my bare bottom glass tank!

I'm not sure why, but both have large protruding chins, that are often white. Looks like a tooth coming out or something. It could be because they're rubbing constantly against glass?

Anyone else have pictures or know of theirs having strange chins?

This is when I first got them 2 months ago. Since then their bodies have become completely black with white stripes, with only the bottom fins and faces holding orange.

tufacody · 10/25/2009, 09:49 AM

My photons are going strong and look great, but they won't take to the BTA. Gonna try LTA or haddoni next.

E.intheC · 10/25/2009, 09:51 AM

tufa, you have pics? By the way, I've never had a pair of clowns host an anemone. They act like nothing is different, and even preferred to host a power head in one circumstance. crazy clowns, clowning around..

youpey · 10/25/2009, 03:27 PM

i have never tried or wanted to breed clowns, but now i kind of hope to. i dont have the space for another tank, but i think i would make some

Arati · 10/25/2009, 04:45 PM

tufacody · 10/25/2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.intheC

tufa, you have pics? By the way, I've never had a pair of clowns host an anemone. They act like nothing is different, and even preferred to host a power head in one circumstance. crazy clowns, clowning around..

No pics, but here's a tank cam:

http://reeftank1.viewnetcam.com

user "fishtank"
pass "percula"

Lights on for another hour or so

tufacody · 10/25/2009, 08:06 PM

just as I went to put the cam on this tank for you I noticed they are testing out the BTA! How cool is that?

Kinetic · 10/25/2009, 08:10 PM

pw didn't work

tufacody · 10/25/2009, 08:20 PM

hmm, not sure why its not working

try

http://reeftank1.viewnetcam.com:50000

cankarabas · 09/08/2014, 02:02 PM

my black photons

swissgaurd · 12/18/2014, 09:08 AM

i just stumbled upon this thread here.
ive got a pair like yours sanjay except the male is black onyx from bali and female is black and white oc...
my first batch at 6 months is starting to color up now and it looks like they may get to be the same colors as yours.
I have heard of a clown called photons but did not know what they looked like.wow congratulations they are beautiful..
if my coloration comes out to be the same as yours would it be ok to call them photons or must I call them something else thanks
vic

08/29/2009, 07:37 PM	#52
bencozzy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 1,185	ok so from everything ive seen hybrids in the same complex are usually fertile. also the hybrids of melanistic polymnus and sebea, f1s are dark but their f2 offspring are even darker. something to do with a strengthing of the melanistic gene. a nice dark all black fish with no stripes would be sweet looking, any takers on making this happen?? or how about a a black photon hybridized with a white stripe maroon clown, that would look sweet!! __________________ ben Current Tank Info: 40g long, 1x koralia 400, 2x AC 110, 1x magnum hot, 1x eheim canister

09/07/2009, 10:29 PM	#58
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Sorry if you mentioned this before. Is the mother the Black ocellaris or the Onyx percula? __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

09/07/2009, 10:32 PM	#59
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Nevermind. I read your article again and got the information I wanted to know. From the picture, the black Ocellaris got to be one of the most beautiful black Ocellaris I ever saw. Sorry that you lost him. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

09/08/2009, 08:50 AM	#60
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	Awesome Sanjay!! __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

09/09/2009, 07:05 PM	#61
E.intheC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 5,373	great looking fish! (looks like you'll have some more offspring as well!) __________________ -Eric

08/29/2009, 07:29 PM	#51
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	Yes, the male is dead. There is no hype here. I now have the female paired with one of its young, and they spawned for the first time last week, but the eggs were all eaten. I am hoping they spawn again. This will also provide further evidence on the fertility of these fish. sanjay.

08/30/2009, 11:55 AM	#53
oceancube78 Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: san antonio Posts: 214	man all this clownfish breeding and stuff reminds me of my ball pythons,, everyone's trying to make new designs or colors lol should be cool to see the new clownfish, or what other type percula someone creates..

08/30/2009, 03:01 PM	#54
austinh Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 141	awesome clowns i like the mostly black look

08/30/2009, 03:55 PM	#55
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	Very glad to hear that the line will live on. I have a pair that are adorable and will soon get their own tank. Sanjay - how are they taking to BTA? Any nem suggestions for them?

08/30/2009, 06:48 PM	#56
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	They are taking quite easily to BTAs, from what I have heard from others. sanjay.

09/07/2009, 10:22 PM	#57
Sanjay Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,302	As you can see from the picture below.. the hybrids are fertile !. This a pairing of the original mother with the hybrid offspring. sanjay.

10/25/2009, 02:10 AM	#62
Kinetic Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 7,230	so sorry to hear about the male. is all this inbreeding going to have some adverse effects? just curious as a very naive fish person. My pair have been doing really well now for 2 months. They've of course ignored the BTA and host the hard corner of my bare bottom glass tank! I'm not sure why, but both have large protruding chins, that are often white. Looks like a tooth coming out or something. It could be because they're rubbing constantly against glass? Anyone else have pictures or know of theirs having strange chins? This is when I first got them 2 months ago. Since then their bodies have become completely black with white stripes, with only the bottom fins and faces holding orange.

10/25/2009, 09:49 AM	#63
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	My photons are going strong and look great, but they won't take to the BTA. Gonna try LTA or haddoni next.

10/25/2009, 09:51 AM	#64
E.intheC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 5,373	tufa, you have pics? By the way, I've never had a pair of clowns host an anemone. They act like nothing is different, and even preferred to host a power head in one circumstance. crazy clowns, clowning around.. __________________ -Eric

10/25/2009, 03:27 PM	#65
youpey Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: hightstown, NJ Posts: 262	i have never tried or wanted to breed clowns, but now i kind of hope to. i dont have the space for another tank, but i think i would make some __________________ 16gal Biocube LED - New setup Current Tank Info: 14gal nano

10/25/2009, 04:45 PM	#66
Arati Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LI,NY Posts: 722	__________________ I wasn't planning on keeping the turtle until it could pull me around under water. ~RV7AFlyer Current Tank Info: 150 ish gallons of Reef

10/25/2009, 08:06 PM	#68
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	just as I went to put the cam on this tank for you I noticed they are testing out the BTA! How cool is that?

10/25/2009, 08:10 PM	#69
Kinetic Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 7,230	pw didn't work

10/25/2009, 08:20 PM	#70
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	hmm, not sure why its not working try http://reeftank1.viewnetcam.com:50000 Last edited by tufacody; 10/25/2009 at 08:29 PM.

12/18/2014, 09:08 AM	#72
swissgaurd Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mississauga,Canada Posts: 323	i just stumbled upon this thread here. ive got a pair like yours sanjay except the male is black onyx from bali and female is black and white oc... my first batch at 6 months is starting to color up now and it looks like they may get to be the same colors as yours. I have heard of a clown called photons but did not know what they looked like.wow congratulations they are beautiful.. if my coloration comes out to be the same as yours would it be ok to call them photons or must I call them something else thanks vic