Rae's pics-of EVERYTHING!!!

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by raen



The top is a picture of the BTA (the healthy one) and a FTS. his is where she footed and has never moved. So you all think I should move her???

no

[raen]

How the heck do I get that crab out???? It is brown and looks hairy.

[raen]

So leave her there? No bothering her?

[raen]

So sad to report that I pulled the Nem this morning. She decom'd so quickly. I AM REALLY SAD!!!!!!! So 2 beloved members of the fam gone in 1 month!

[kar93]

Sorry, Rae. What did she look like. You say she decomposed quickly. Nems are often slow 'passers'.

[raen]

I am so near a split, should be excited, and I am ready to throw in the towel. I have gotten so much info from a local reef friend that I thought was good and valid, but then learned from all of you that it was in fact bad info and I do not have the equipment that I need to make this tank a success. I am at my limit, ad ready to start finding home for the fish.

[raen]

Originally posted by kar93
Sorry, Rae. What did she look like. You say she decomposed quickly. Nems are often slow 'passers'.

Last night she was still "half" good. She had one half of herself nicce and inflated. Today, her foot was almost totally broken down and her insides were showing. She was no doubt dead/dying.

[kar93]

Don't give up just yet. We all have our bad times but then something happens and it's all worth while.

[otrlynn]

Originally posted by raen
I am so near a split, should be excited, and I am ready to throw in the towel. I have gotten so much info from a local reef friend that I thought was good and valid, but then learned from all of you that it was in fact bad info and I do not have the equipment that I need to make this tank a success. I am at my limit, ad ready to start finding home for the fish.

Rae, you absolutely have what it takes to make your tank a success--most of all your dedication to making it work. There is no reason that tank can't be a beautiful fish tank with soft coral and maybe some LPS. I think the trick is in knowing what the tank can support and focusing on that. I took an anemone back to the LFS early on, after I read on here that I really couldn't/shouldn't put it in my tank. I'm not saying that is your case, just that there is no shame in making a mistake and learning from it. Pick your head up and figure out what you and your tank can do well.

[HumanIMDB]

I am not an expert, but "she" looks okay to me in that FTS...how long has it been there again? Personally, I would just leave it there until it moves or really starts to show signs of trouble; unfortunately, that might mean leaving it until it's too late but I think the constant poking and prodding it might be causing more harm than good.

In instances like this, I usually take the approach that I'm doing everything I can, if it doesn't make it, it wasn't meant to be.

"First, do no harm..."

I'm sure you just want to do everything you can, but at this point I'd say leave it and see what happens.

[raen]

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
I am not an expert, but "she" looks okay to me in that FTS...how long has it been there again? Personally, I would just leave it there until it moves or really starts to show signs of trouble; unfortunately, that might mean leaving it until it's too late but I think the constant poking and prodding it might be causing more harm than good.

In instances like this, I usually take the approach that I'm doing everything I can, if it doesn't make it, it wasn't meant to be.

"First, do no harm..."

I'm sure you just want to do everything you can, but at this point I'd say leave it and see what happens.

That one in the FTS i not the sick nem. She is healthy looking, eats, ad is happy blowing in the wind.

[HumanIMDB]

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
I am not an expert, but "she" looks okay to me in that FTS...how long has it been there again? Personally, I would just leave it there until it moves or really starts to show signs of trouble; unfortunately, that might mean leaving it until it's too late but I think the constant poking and prodding it might be causing more harm than good.

In instances like this, I usually take the approach that I'm doing everything I can, if it doesn't make it, it wasn't meant to be.

"First, do no harm..."

I'm sure you just want to do everything you can, but at this point I'd say leave it and see what happens.

I guess I should have read the rest of the posts before replying...

Originally posted by raen
So sad to report that I pulled the Nem this morning. She decom'd so quickly. I AM REALLY SAD!!!!!!! So 2 beloved members of the fam gone in 1 month!

That sucks Rae, but perhaps it was not meant to be...I don't think you could have done anything more to help it.

Originally posted by raen
I am so near a split, should be excited, and I am ready to throw in the towel. I have gotten so much info from a local reef friend that I thought was good and valid, but then learned from all of you that it was in fact bad info and I do not have the equipment that I need to make this tank a success. I am at my limit, ad ready to start finding home for the fish.

Don't give up! You're passionate about the hobby and are willing to do whatever it takes so given time you will be enjoying your successes.

If it makes you feel any better, Kara and I are kicking ourselves for neglecting our nano over the summer as we've lost the beautiful ricordia, blastomussa, and sun coral. The first two were crowded out by GSPs and mushrooms respectively and the sun coral starved to the point that all but two of the polyps have detached from the skeleton and are now in various areas around the tank. We're going to try to rescue it, but I don't have much hope.

Originally posted by otrlynn
Rae, you absolutely have what it takes to make your tank a success--most of all your dedication to making it work. There is no reason that tank can't be a beautiful fish tank with soft coral and maybe some LPS. I think the trick is in knowing what the tank can support and focusing on that. I took an anemone back to the LFS early on, after I read on here that I really couldn't/shouldn't put it in my tank. I'm not saying that is your case, just that there is no shame in making a mistake and learning from it. Pick your head up and figure out what you and your tank can do well.

+1

[raen]

Originally posted by otrlynn
Rae, you absolutely have what it takes to make your tank a success--most of all your dedication to making it work. There is no reason that tank can't be a beautiful fish tank with soft coral and maybe some LPS. I think the trick is in knowing what the tank can support and focusing on that. I took an anemone back to the LFS early on, after I read on here that I really couldn't/shouldn't put it in my tank. I'm not saying that is your case, just that there is no shame in making a mistake and learning from it. Pick your head up and figure out what you and your tank can do well.

Thanks for all of your kind words. I appreciate it a bunch! It's just so hard to have defeat after defeat and not want to throw it all in. Thanks again for all of your words, and encouragement, that makes it a bit easier.

[Aquarist007]

I am shocked ----there appeared nothing wrong with that nem.

Rae, its the nature of the hobby esp with us all being new to the hobby---you are going to get loses despite anything you can do.

You have learned alot here in a short time---remember that anemone did go through a move back and forth lately and some power head truama earlier in its life.

You do have the quality of long term success in this hobby but you will have more loses too.

One of the key areas you should focus on is your water chemistry--you have to get that stable and in the accepted ranges--really for about 6 months to be successful with anemones and corals.

start monitoring your
pH 8.2
magnesium 1300 ppm
calcium over 400 ppm
alkalinity 8-11 dkH
salinity 1.026

I would suggest you start a two part dosing regime--I have a blog on how to start it

Being a nurse you should be able to master this quite easily

don't give up--just focus on how to get better

[raen]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
I am shocked ----there appeared nothing wrong with that nem.

Rae, its the nature of the hobby esp with us all being new to the hobby---you are going to get loses despite anything you can do.

You have learned alot here in a short time---remember that anemone did go through a move back and forth lately and some power head truama earlier in its life.

You do have the quality of long term success in this hobby but you will have more loses too.

One of the key areas you should focus on is your water chemistry--you have to get that stable and in the accepted ranges--really for about 6 months to be successful with anemones and corals.

start monitoring your
pH 8.2
magnesium 1300 ppm
calcium over 400 ppm
alkalinity 8-11 dkH
salinity 1.026

I would suggest you start a two part dosing regime--I have a blog on how to start it

Being a nurse you should be able to master this quite easily

don't give up--just focus on how to get better

ThanksScott, I was going to take a picture of her before I disposed of her, but I didn't have the heart, or the stomach to do it. she was almost inside out. AWFUL!!! I do monitor all params on a weekly basis, and also have the LFS double heck me bi-weekly. I test near perfect everytime, only off on the salinity at 1.024-5. I appreciate all that you guys have done, and all of your words. You are a good friend!

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
don't give up--just focus on how to get better

+1

Keep your chin up... you're on the right track for sure Rae

[HumanIMDB]

Originally posted by raen
Thanks for all of your kind words. I appreciate it a bunch! It's just so hard to have defeat after defeat and not want to throw it all in. Thanks again for all of your words, and encouragement, that makes it a bit easier.

We all have failures and losses, that is how we learn...my first venture into saltwater was a tank with black epoxy gravel, plastic decorations, and a canister filter as the only means of filtration and thought I was doing well!



I've learned sooooooo much since getting back into the hobby and am sometimes frustrated with how much there is left to learn but some how you have to keep going...

Hang in there, we'll help you through it anyway we can! Just remember, whatever happens, you are not alone!

[raen]

Thanks guys.....you really are all great!

[Tswifty]

oh yeah... btw

6 more posts till SPLIT!!!

[raen]

Scott, have you and Brenda named the baby yet?

[raen]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
oh yeah... btw

6 more posts till SPLIT!!!

I know but I suck so bd, I can't even begin to know howto index it. Can I just cut and paste what Scott did for me before and add to it?

[Tswifty]

just quote the post... make sure you do it before the split, or the thread gets locked and you can no longer retreive it.

I sent you a PM with the code you'll want to use for the post.

[maroun.c]

Sorry to hear about your anemone. Do not give up just yet. we all have our bad days but most of us who give up and tear up their tanks end up returning to it few months later and have to start up from scratch again. I say give your tank another chance. instead of making further purchases invest in the equipment you think you need to be able to support more demanding animals and then try them again. Over the last ten years I adopted 5-6 bleached and near death anemones which I saved all of except for one that was too bad to save from the start. 3 of them died when I left my tank unattended for 2 years and I also lost my 8 years old RBTA that was the 1st coral I ever got. that alone was close to through me out of the hobby last month but somehow I regained more will to improve my system further.
Good luck with whatever you choose.

[kudora]

hang in there raen, it just wasnt ment to be.

[JohnL]

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