Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment
Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 12/19/2017, 09:42 AM   #6601
mastersonr
Registered Member
 
mastersonr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 110
Thanks Bpb. How should I alternate the remaining blue+ and coral+ to even things out? How does this look front to back?

a) blue+ b) purple+ c) coral+ d) blue+ e) coral+ f) blue+


__________________
Ray

Current Tank Info: 150g softie tank
mastersonr is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/19/2017, 10:01 AM   #6602
Bpb
Registered Member
 
Bpb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,148
Blue+ and purple+ on B/D channel is a very nice look


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Bpb is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/21/2017, 09:53 AM   #6603
mastersonr
Registered Member
 
mastersonr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 110
Quote:
Originally Posted by mastersonr View Post
Thanks Bpb. How should I alternate the remaining blue+ and coral+ to even things out? How does this look front to back?

a) blue+ b) purple+ c) coral+ d) blue+ e) coral+ f) blue+
any other thoughts on bulb placement? Does this look ok?


__________________
Ray

Current Tank Info: 150g softie tank
mastersonr is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/22/2017, 01:49 PM   #6604
Editour2
Frank
 
Editour2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Suffolk County, NY
Posts: 1,907
What is the consensus on changing out T5 bulbs? Every 6 months? 9 months? 12 months?
I use them to supplement/round out the spectrum to my LED fixtures.


__________________
Frank

Current Tank Info: 215 gal DT, 125 gal sump, 40 gal refugium w/ATS, 20 gal frag tank, reeflo orca skimmer, Knop HD calc reac w/2nd chamber, BRS dual reac, dart rtn pump, 2x tunze 6105's on seasweeps, 2x jebao PP20's, 30gal QT, LED/T5 Ltg, 1/2 hp aqualogic chiller.
Editour2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/25/2017, 11:08 AM   #6605
jayball
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,671
Quote:
Originally Posted by Editour2 View Post
What is the consensus on changing out T5 bulbs? Every 6 months? 9 months? 12 months?
I use them to supplement/round out the spectrum to my LED fixtures.
Depends, actively cooled or not, how many hours a day,. Enclosed or retrofit, what ballasts (program or instant start).... You get the idea.

But yeah, you have the range about right. You are not going to get more than 12-15 months out of them ( maybe an extreme of 18 months if in a properly cooled fixture running just a couple hours a day). In bad conditions you can have to replace them in 6-9 months.

Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk


jayball is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/26/2017, 10:16 AM   #6606
Editour2
Frank
 
Editour2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Suffolk County, NY
Posts: 1,907
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayball View Post
Depends, actively cooled or not, how many hours a day,. Enclosed or retrofit, what ballasts (program or instant start).... You get the idea.

But yeah, you have the range about right. You are not going to get more than 12-15 months out of them ( maybe an extreme of 18 months if in a properly cooled fixture running just a couple hours a day). In bad conditions you can have to replace them in 6-9 months.

Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
I have 2 80 watt T-5's on both sides of my LED fixtures (total of 4). They are the LET retro-fit kit in an open fish room. I changed the tubes in March of 2017 and was not sure if I should change them now or at 12 months. See the pic below for a better idea of the layout. I probably run the actinics 9 hours a day and the full spectrum bulbs around 7 hours.
thanks


Attached Images
File Type: jpg attachment.jpg (59.6 KB, 38 views)
__________________
Frank

Current Tank Info: 215 gal DT, 125 gal sump, 40 gal refugium w/ATS, 20 gal frag tank, reeflo orca skimmer, Knop HD calc reac w/2nd chamber, BRS dual reac, dart rtn pump, 2x tunze 6105's on seasweeps, 2x jebao PP20's, 30gal QT, LED/T5 Ltg, 1/2 hp aqualogic chiller.
Editour2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/26/2017, 12:04 PM   #6607
jayball
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,671
Quote:
Originally Posted by Editour2 View Post
I have 2 80 watt T-5's on both sides of my LED fixtures (total of 4). They are the LET retro-fit kit in an open fish room. I changed the tubes in March of 2017 and was not sure if I should change them now or at 12 months. See the pic below for a better idea of the layout. I probably run the actinics 9 hours a day and the full spectrum bulbs around 7 hours.
thanks
I do not see any reason you can not go a full year on that. (Good ballasts and while it is not optimally cooled it will also not overheat)


jayball is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12/27/2017, 09:02 AM   #6608
RobZilla04
Registered Member
 
RobZilla04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Posts: 1,857
Just added two T5HO retrofit fixtures. One on each side of two Viparspectra black boxes over my 90g mixed reef. What bulb suggestions do you guys have for the front and rear? I'm looking for a more even look with enhanced coral coloration and depth.


__________________
90g Mixed Reef
RobZilla04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/17/2018, 08:14 AM   #6609
enthejungle
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 95
Upgrading my my 60 cube to a 60X18X18 and switching from Kessils to an 8 bulb ATI fixture.

Tank is SPS dominant and looking for advice on bulb combos.


enthejungle is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/17/2018, 10:09 AM   #6610
Bpb
Registered Member
 
Bpb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,148
The great part about T5HO is that if you use any combination of reputable bulbs with blue and full spectrum your results will be negligible in difference. The differences will be largely aesthetic.

My 8 bulb combo is
4 ATI Blue+
2 ATI True Actinic
2 Giesemann Tropic 6500k

Here are some correctly white balanced pics for reference.












Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Bpb is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/17/2018, 10:28 AM   #6611
jayball
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,671
(to add some more options to Bpb's post)

Depends on the look you want, see here for some suggested combos. https://www.atinorthamerica.com/faq.php You will have plenty of power with an 8 bulb over an 18X18 so personally I would swap 2 of the blue for actinic bulbs to put on dawn and dusk channel. I think blue plus alone is ugly but that is personal opinion.


jayball is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/17/2018, 10:38 AM   #6612
Bpb
Registered Member
 
Bpb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,148
The T5 Q&a Thread - split

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayball View Post
(to add some more options to Bpb's post)

Depends on the look you want, see here for some suggested combos. https://www.atinorthamerica.com/faq.php You will have plenty of power with an 8 bulb over an 18X18 so personally I would swap 2 of the blue for actinic bulbs to put on dawn and dusk channel. I think blue plus alone is ugly but that is personal opinion.


Agreed. Blue+ alone has a turquoise look to it. Like looking at the clear summer sky but with about 2% green added to it. Not the best for dawn/dusk. If you can manage some royal
Blue LEDs alone honestly that’s the best thing for pure fluorescence alone. I wish I had the space in my canopy for some. But my tank is also 18” and the ati fixture takes up every inch. It’s flush with the tank as far as footprint goes. Just elevated 12” up.

I actually have my two white bulbs on the 2 bulb channel people normally use for their dawn dusk blues. My morning and night Blue period actually uses the big 6 bulb channel, and the two whites come on for 8 hours in the middle

I didn’t do this specifically to have a brighter dawn dusk, but instead to have more uniform spectral coverage from the whites rather than being dominated front, back, or ends

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Bpb is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/17/2018, 10:46 AM   #6613
enthejungle
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayball View Post
(to add some more options to Bpb's post)

Depends on the look you want, see here for some suggested combos. https://www.atinorthamerica.com/faq.php You will have plenty of power with an 8 bulb over an 18X18 so personally I would swap 2 of the blue for actinic bulbs to put on dawn and dusk channel. I think blue plus alone is ugly but that is personal opinion.
Thanks for the link!

Got some research to do. Hoping to get an order placed today due to the reward points at BRS.


enthejungle is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/17/2018, 10:49 AM   #6614
enthejungle
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bpb View Post
Agreed. Blue+ alone has a turquoise look to it. Like looking at the clear summer sky but with about 2% green added to it. Not the best for dawn/dusk. If you can manage some royal
Blue LEDs alone honestly that’s the best thing for pure fluorescence alone. I wish I had the space in my canopy for some. But my tank is also 18” and the ati fixture takes up every inch. It’s flush with the tank as far as footprint goes. Just elevated 12” up.

I actually have my two white bulbs on the 2 bulb channel people normally use for their dawn dusk blues. My morning and night Blue period actually uses the big 6 bulb channel, and the two whites come on for 8 hours in the middle

I didn’t do this specifically to have a brighter dawn dusk, but instead to have more uniform spectral coverage from the whites rather than being dominated front, back, or ends

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Might incorporate a reefbrite down the road.

I used a ramping up / dawn to dusk with the 360W but as of right now no intentions of dawn to dusk.


enthejungle is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/04/2018, 01:36 AM   #6615
awais98
SPS
 
awais98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 897
Recently saw on FB some stunning pics with 6 B+ & 2 AB special
Not mine!!




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


__________________
Awais

Current Tank Info: 240DT SPS DOMINANT
awais98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/04/2018, 01:38 AM   #6616
awais98
SPS
 
awais98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 897
I am adding SBreef actinics to my 8 bulb ATIs for the pop. Any one done that here?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


__________________
Awais

Current Tank Info: 240DT SPS DOMINANT
awais98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/05/2018, 07:20 PM   #6617
zoa1988
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Editour2 View Post
I have 2 80 watt T-5's on both sides of my LED fixtures (total of 4). They are the LET retro-fit kit in an open fish room. I changed the tubes in March of 2017 and was not sure if I should change them now or at 12 months. See the pic below for a better idea of the layout. I probably run the actinics 9 hours a day and the full spectrum bulbs around 7 hours.
thanks
Nice tank

Sent from my LGL84VL using Tapatalk


zoa1988 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/05/2018, 07:30 PM   #6618
Editour2
Frank
 
Editour2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Suffolk County, NY
Posts: 1,907
Recently changed my LED fixtures from 3 x 180 watt Reeftech to 2 x Photon 32" V2's....while retaining the 4 x 80 watt T5' surrounding the LEDs.


Attached Images
File Type: jpg P1012398.jpg (38.8 KB, 29 views)
__________________
Frank

Current Tank Info: 215 gal DT, 125 gal sump, 40 gal refugium w/ATS, 20 gal frag tank, reeflo orca skimmer, Knop HD calc reac w/2nd chamber, BRS dual reac, dart rtn pump, 2x tunze 6105's on seasweeps, 2x jebao PP20's, 30gal QT, LED/T5 Ltg, 1/2 hp aqualogic chiller.
Editour2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/09/2018, 12:18 PM   #6619
Zalick
My reef tanks my wallet
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Portland
Posts: 571
Quote:
Originally Posted by enthejungle View Post
Upgrading my my 60 cube to a 60X18X18 and switching from Kessils to an 8 bulb ATI fixture.

Tank is SPS dominant and looking for advice on bulb combos.
I'm looking to make the same switch. Running 6 Kessil's now and looking to add an 8 bulb ATI fixture.

Should I just get rid of the 6 kessils or keep them and add the 8 bulb ATI?


__________________
300g custom acrylic from James 72x36x27, 4 Mitras Lx7 &6 a360, 2 Stream 3s, C2C beananimal. 100g sump, Jebao DCP- 8000 (Vectra M1 died) -> 114w aquauv -> SRO 5000ext , varios8 return

Current Tank Info: Me v Dinos - I'm winning for now...
Zalick is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/12/2018, 11:19 PM   #6620
reeftanker3295
Registered Member
 
reeftanker3295's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 192
I'm going with an ATI sunpower on my new 5x2x2, is it worth it to get the 60" fixture or is the 48 all that is needed? It will be SPS dominant so I want a lot of light. Will be going 8 bulb either way and possibly supplementing with kessils or reefbrites. Also any bulb combos for good color and growth with a 14k look would be appreciated, thinking of going with 4x B+, 2x C+, 1 Fiji purple, and 1 actinic, not completely sure I understand the bulb placement though.


reeftanker3295 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/13/2018, 07:53 AM   #6621
shred5
Registered Member
 
shred5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Waukesha , WI
Posts: 4,998
Quote:
Originally Posted by reeftanker3295 View Post
I'm going with an ATI sunpower on my new 5x2x2, is it worth it to get the 60" fixture or is the 48 all that is needed? It will be SPS dominant so I want a lot of light. Will be going 8 bulb either way and possibly supplementing with kessils or reefbrites. Also any bulb combos for good color and growth with a 14k look would be appreciated, thinking of going with 4x B+, 2x C+, 1 Fiji purple, and 1 actinic, not completely sure I understand the bulb placement though.

Personally I would go 60" with Sps because you want to light all sides of the coral unless you do not plan on going to the edges. Really depends on Aquascaping and coral placement.


__________________
David Polzin
shred5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/13/2018, 09:14 AM   #6622
jayball
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,671
Quote:
Originally Posted by reeftanker3295 View Post
I'm going with an ATI sunpower on my new 5x2x2, is it worth it to get the 60" fixture or is the 48 all that is needed? It will be SPS dominant so I want a lot of light. Will be going 8 bulb either way and possibly supplementing with kessils or reefbrites. Also any bulb combos for good color and growth with a 14k look would be appreciated, thinking of going with 4x B+, 2x C+, 1 Fiji purple, and 1 actinic, not completely sure I understand the bulb placement though.
Keep the purple near the front to better highlight the whole tank, 3rd or 4th slot. If you use only one Actinic I would put it in slot 2 but I would put one in 2 and 7 personally (replacing a blue) especially with LED supplementation. For the coral and blue play around to make it how you want, the placement will change how you perceive the tank's overall color.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shred5 View Post
Personally I would go 60" with Sps because you want to light all sides of the coral unless you do not plan on going to the edges. Really depends on Aquascaping and coral placement.
IF you want high light SPS wall to wall I would agree. Also depends on how much light spill you are willing to tolerate and if you can compromise with just keeping softies, LPS, and "easy" SPS like plating montipora on the side.


jayball is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/16/2018, 02:43 AM   #6623
Rockhead21564
Registered Member
 
Rockhead21564's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Up North Vanderbilt, Michigan
Posts: 525
80w bulb recommendations

Ati 6x80w fixture

Been out of it a while, does this sound like the correct set-up? Probably softies

Thanks Grim

Aqua blue
blue plus
purple plus
blue plus
Aqua blue
blue plus


__________________
Sometimes I just don't get IT ! I want IT, but she won't let me buy anything else. Well, that she knows about anyway, Bah hahahaha

Current Tank Info: 280g reef w/90g refug/reef & 90g sump;210g FOWLR W/20"Pnthr Grper,10"niger,36"zebra & 24" Tiger eels. 55g clam tank w/ 9,"8",6",5"& 4" Corceas, 9" Blue &12"orange squamosas
Rockhead21564 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02/16/2018, 08:37 AM   #6624
jayball
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,671
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockhead21564 View Post
Ati 6x80w fixture

Been out of it a while, does this sound like the correct set-up? Probably softies

Thanks Grim

Aqua blue
blue plus
purple plus
blue plus
Aqua blue
blue plus
Unfortunately he does not post here any more.

The only thing I will suggest is that you look into the coral plus bulb. It is 50% blue+, 40% ABS, and 10% purple about the same par as a blue plus. You obviously like a whiter tank than most on here now days. I use them 50/50 with true actinic to avoid making the tank too blue cast.

Sent using Tapatalk.


jayball is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/09/2018, 06:51 AM   #6625
five.five-six
Registered Member
 
five.five-six's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Corona
Posts: 7,827
Blog Entries: 6
Need some lighting advice

6’ tank 24 deep and I’m running 2X250 radium 20k’s. I’m suplamenting dusk and dawn with 3X36 watt PC CFLs. It actually grows coral pretty well but I’m looking to improve.

Background: I recently bought a 420NM LED strip. It’s not bright enough for the tank but I played around with it and it the corals pop insanely. My wife absolutly loves it. I think it looks like a rave or a black light fun house but happy wife happy life. Normally my wife is the breakmaster on tank spending but she likes the pop so much she got all schoolgirlish “How much does it cost? Can we get it?

Tank is a new SPS tank, running 6 months and it’s really starting to settle down to the point where I have invested in some very nice frags and am in grow them out mode. I have a set of 10K par monster halide lamps that are bright as heck but almost yellow. I like them; wife hates them.

So I want to replace the CFLs with 2X T5HO. I have been considering but not limited to:

ATI true O3 (I’m old schools and that’s what we ran back in the day)

ATI Blue plus



The ideal lamp, in order of importance would:

Promote growth.

Provide my wife’s beloved 420nm pop.

Tame the 10k aqualine halides into more of a radium 10k color.

TIA


__________________
Originally posted by yellowslayer13:

"I hate that hole"

Current Tank Info: SCMAS Member 225 peninsula euroreef RS180 Apex 400W X 3 20k radiums / Spectra mixed SPS
five.five-six is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The T5 Q&a Thread JohnL Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 999 01/30/2007 10:36 AM
The T5 Q&a Thread JohnL Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 999 12/06/2006 07:45 AM
The T5 Q&a Thread JohnL Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 999 09/28/2006 07:50 AM
The T5 Q&a Thread JohnL Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 999 07/03/2006 05:22 PM
Please post the massive T5 Q&A Thread dc_909 Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 0 04/27/2006 10:42 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.