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Old 09/25/2015, 12:25 PM   #1951
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They can develop their dino eating habits more in a closed environment. Make them super bugs.
After that put freaking laser beams on the pods foreheads!


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Old 09/25/2015, 09:44 PM   #1952
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So how much plankton are we dosing? I went and picked up a ton, plan to start a culture, and dose the rest.


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Old 09/28/2015, 11:22 AM   #1953
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Before I scrap the tank... I am thinking about doing one more thing...

Removing fish and dosing phyto and copepods.

If nothing eats the copepods, they will reproduce like crazy no? And eat all the dinos.

I feel like it's hard to get a good population of pods if you have fish like wrasses that eat them like no tomorrow


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Old 09/28/2015, 11:38 AM   #1954
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When I first set up my tank, I populated it with just pods and glass shrimp for months! It's great.


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Old 09/28/2015, 11:57 AM   #1955
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DinoX! Before you scrap your tank. It worked for me. After having dinos for 5 months.


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Old 09/28/2015, 12:00 PM   #1956
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DinoX! Before you scrap your tank. It worked for me. After having dinos for 5 months.
How much was it and where to buy?


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Old 09/28/2015, 12:00 PM   #1957
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Before I scrap the tank... I am thinking about doing one more thing...

Removing fish and dosing phyto and copepods.

If nothing eats the copepods, they will reproduce like crazy no? And eat all the dinos.

I feel like it's hard to get a good population of pods if you have fish like wrasses that eat them like no tomorrow
Start your own culture of benthic copepods, and begin dosing at night, powerheads off. You probably won't need to dose pyhto until dinos are no longer visible to the naked eye.

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Hmm from what I'm reading Tisbe are benthic. Have some on order.

http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/276657-the-pod-farm/
http://www.orafarm.com/product/pods-tisbe/
I'd imagine if you could get a culture going with 2-3 species it'd work best.


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Old 09/28/2015, 12:02 PM   #1958
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About 30$ for a 250ml bottle. Used right 25 mls to treat


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Old 09/28/2015, 12:02 PM   #1959
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Old 09/28/2015, 12:53 PM   #1960
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About 30$ for a 250ml bottle. Used right 25 mls to treat
Damn, I wish they sold smaller quantities. That's crazy that we only use like 1/10 of the bottle


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Old 09/28/2015, 12:59 PM   #1961
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Get a bigger tank ?


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Old 09/28/2015, 03:15 PM   #1962
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Before I scrap the tank... I am thinking about doing one more thing...

Removing fish and dosing phyto and copepods.

If nothing eats the copepods, they will reproduce like crazy no? And eat all the dinos.

I feel like it's hard to get a good population of pods if you have fish like wrasses that eat them like no tomorrow
You could also put dry sand in. That will kick of a diatom bloom.

Are you in Canada? I can send you some potassium nitrate to raise nitrates. Perhaps we can go halfs on a bottle of Dino X. They've really raised the price on that stuff, it was $20 6 months ago.

Dosing nitrate's actually working for me. I can tell when NO3 hits about 0.2; the dinos start up on the glass, displacing the green algae. Raising potassium is a bit concerning but I've only had to dose to 2 or 3ppm nitrate to see the switch from dinos to green algae.

The rescue corals are hanging in there. Montis look awful, but that is probably half my terrible lights. Amazingly the snails, cowrie and conch are all fine. It's only been a week but I *really* hope this high nitrate trick will keep them alive.

Under the microscope Ostreopsis is becoming far more scarce, but the tiny near-bacterial sucker is present in all samples. I can't see anything but goo off my glass, still.

Here's the little suspicious guy. This is at 1000X. Doesn't look like a cell here, but it moves around so it's not debris.
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Suspicious microbe is suspicious. This is the outside of the above thing. Possibly a spore?

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Posting may be random this week, more house sitting.

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Old 09/28/2015, 03:16 PM   #1963
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When I first set up my tank, I populated it with just pods and glass shrimp for months! It's great.
Saw your video in the other thread, that's incredibly cool! Where did you get the shrimp, and do you know which species they are?

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Old 09/28/2015, 03:30 PM   #1964
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Reefs2go calls them glass feeder shrimp. They're marine.


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Old 09/28/2015, 10:42 PM   #1965
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You could also put dry sand in. That will kick of a diatom bloom.

Are you in Canada? I can send you some potassium nitrate to raise nitrates. Perhaps we can go halfs on a bottle of Dino X. They've really raised the price on that stuff, it was $20 6 months ago.
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Old 09/28/2015, 10:50 PM   #1966
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Dino X worked for me, it took about 5-6 doses(that's 10-12 days).


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Old 09/28/2015, 10:58 PM   #1967
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I've used Dino X too, actually, Algae X but FM has basically said it's the same thing but rebranded. It worked, but there were some cons for me. A few sps frags died, those that lived lost color. I went through the highest dose too though. If I could do it again I'd culture and dose benthic copepods until I felt they needed phyto.


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Old 09/28/2015, 11:24 PM   #1968
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I vent through the trouble of measuring my tank and sump, calculated the real volume of water and dosed as per product manual. I had no loses or significant discoloration. Only on one of the corals I had some minimal discoloration, the rest not affected. The urchins on the other hand, did not die, but were quite a bit affected.


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Old 09/29/2015, 04:12 AM   #1969
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I actually got my zoas to open after being closed for 4 months day after I started dosing. They haven't closed since. All of my sps showed much better PE. Non of my love stock were affected. Lost my urchin but I suspect it wasn't the dinox. He hadn't had much to eat in 4 months. I think a diet of dinos killed him.


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Old 09/29/2015, 06:34 AM   #1970
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Does anyone live in the US that's battling this algae that might want to go half and half on the fauna marin dino x?


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Old 09/29/2015, 03:59 PM   #1971
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its not really that expensive like about 30.00 dollars..thats not bad if it works


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Old 09/29/2015, 04:02 PM   #1972
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its not really that expensive like about 30.00 dollars..thats not bad if it works
And if it doesn't?? It's very expensive. lol


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Old 09/29/2015, 05:48 PM   #1973
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Billy, have you tried nitrates above 3 and pods and phyto yet? I strongly recommend that first? It took me a while to try myself, as I was a bit skeptical. I honestly couldn't believe how quick it worked. Also I remember you said you cut back on feedings.... Do the opposite. Feed more. Where are your nitrates at?


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+ 1 on feed more. Pods came back. Watching the Dino's die. Fox face is finally eating green algae on rocks again


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Old 09/29/2015, 07:31 PM   #1975
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Billy, have you tried nitrates above 3 and pods and phyto yet? I strongly recommend that first? It took me a while to try myself, as I was a bit skeptical. I honestly couldn't believe how quick it worked. Also I remember you said you cut back on feedings.... Do the opposite. Feed more. Where are your nitrates at?
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+ 1 on feed more. Pods came back. Watching the Dino's die. Fox face is finally eating green algae on rocks again
How much am I supposed to feed? Won't over feeding fuel dinos?


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