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01/27/2016, 11:00 PM | #2851 |
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Do Dino outbreaks only exist in tanks with coral?
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01/28/2016, 06:30 AM | #2853 |
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It worked during dosing, but they came back after 2 weeks. It definitely killed all that I can see of them. Just have a plan after the treatment to keep them from coming back permanently.
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01/28/2016, 08:57 AM | #2858 |
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Those bad boys look like my bad boys. hahaha
We have been running the UV for almost two weeks now I think. It has not completely gotten rid of the dino's mostly because they are not all going through the UV light. They have backed down a bit though. The sand is now speckled with them instead of covered. We have added more Macro algae, pods, have been siphoning the sandbed, adding phytoplankton and the tank has improved a lot. We are still doing water changes. There are actually times when the sand is white again. The dino's are no longer on the rocks, only the sandbed. The water is clear, the fish are more active and the corals are looking much much much better than they have in a long time so we are happier with the changes and hope for more. We have not added any bacteria supplement thus far due to lack of it being in this area and not knowing which one to go with.
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Images here http://eol.org/pages/91075/media?page=12 For others trying to ID something that isn't the most common 2 or 3 families, two sources in addition to my link from above that I found helpful. http://planktonnet.awi.de Search "dinoflagellate" or any more specific term. It has lots of light microscope photos. Electron scope pics don't really look much like what we see through our scopes. And finally Encyclopedia of Life. eol.org Couldn't find any other source with more than a couple pics of Coolia. EOL had 20+ pages of pics. One issue with photo IDs. You think you have a match, then find out it doesn't hang out in the sand and prefers arctic waters. Quote:
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I suspect they can be a problem whether there are corals or not.
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I read earlier in this thread that ostreopsis secretes palytoxin?? reading on pubmed and wiki about this compound makes me nervous. do you guys have any idea how much of the stuff the bacteria secretes? constantly coming into contact with nonselective Na/K ATPase inhibitors has to be terrible for ur health in the long term... or does the body realize its ion gradients are out of whack and it creates more pumps to fix this???
i'm going to aggressively try to get rid of these guys or at least get their population under control. if after a month none of the methods in this thread works i'm gonna hang up the towel, im not sitting with a toxin generator in my living room. Last edited by reefcentral123; 01/29/2016 at 12:08 AM. |
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Anybody see this one before?
http://oceandatacenter.ucsc.edu/MBHA...0al%202011.pdf It's about a parasitic dino that infects other dinos and might be responsible for stopping dino blooms. |
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Less cloudy today but still not crystal clear. LPS are back to normal. The few bits of cyano that were here are 100% gone so that's an interesting side effect. I suspect they'll return. Dinos are hard to find this noon so that's good. Couple spots on one rock is all,none on the sand bed. I'm done dosing bacteria (I used it all) and am going to start dosing phyto along with a full blackout until monday/tuesday of next week. Unsure if I should pull the 100 micron socks I had been running when dosing phyto or not.
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Dino-x does exactly nothing. I dropped some dino x on them under a microscope and they liked it!
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01/29/2016, 04:44 PM | #2869 |
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No. If you have dinos, you just buy a leather coral and they all die instantly.
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01/29/2016, 04:48 PM | #2870 |
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Well folk, dinos are back....
new finding: Mixing live phytoplankton with dino infested water does not hurt dinos at all. At least not immediately. (Microscope observation) I purchased 32lbs of very live rock from CL to either increase biodiversity, or infect the new rock with dinos. Stupid stupid stupid dinos. Have a good weekend
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A month is a bit short for the dirty method, are you going to go clean? Definitely run a lot of carbon. hth Ivy
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I had a definite id on my 2ndary dinos until I noticed that the reference pic for the spp was at 1000X and my species was at 100X. Close..but not quite. hth ivy
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I've been doing live phytoplankton for 3 days now and see some pods on glass. Dino has not gotten better though.
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