Rebirth - 1500l - Page 10

choss · 01/18/2018, 10:25 PM

Alex,

Just catching upon this thread. I had admired your TOTM in the past but this rebirth is spectacular! Following along.

Alex Costa · 01/19/2018, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choss

Alex,

Just catching upon this thread. I had admired your TOTM in the past but this rebirth is spectacular! Following along.

Thanks!

Alex Costa · 01/25/2018, 06:08 PM

No new fish
No new coral

But some new photos.

Slowly the sps are regaining color and are starting to grow again.
The greens, the color that suffered the most, are turning a little better too.

Until the end of 2017 I was doing monthly FTSs but from now on, I'll be doing it bimonthly just to register the evolution of the tank.

I think the tank needs no less than 2 months to start to look like it was before the problems with nutrients/Ra.

I'm now keeping a very little portion of chaeto, of the size of a tenis ball.
And I'll harvest it more frequently to let the nutrients level of the tank rises again.
To help with it I'm feeding the fishes with fresh food again, heavilly, and I'm dosing a lot of stuff, with a positive response (Koralcolor, Aquavittro Fuel, Borochrom, Ferrion, Lugol's ,Potassion)

Alex

reefmutt · 01/25/2018, 06:25 PM

Looking fantastic Alex!

DiscusHeckel · 01/26/2018, 06:15 AM

Very inspiring Alex.

Alex Costa · 01/26/2018, 01:06 PM

Thanks Matt and Bulent...

janci · 01/27/2018, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Costa

But some new photos.

Slowly the sps are regaining color and are starting to grow again.
The greens, the color that suffered the most, are turning a little better too.

I think the tank needs no less than 2 months to start to look like it was before the problems with nutrients/Ra.

To help with it I'm feeding the fishes with fresh food again, heavilly, and I'm dosing a lot of stuff, with a positive response (Koralcolor, Aquavittro Fuel, Borochrom, Ferrion, Lugol's ,Potassion)

Hi Alex
good to hear things are turning to the bright side again. Lovely pictures.
I am interested in your dosing schedule for all the elements you are adding (Koralcolor, Aquavittro Fuel, Borochrom, Ferrion, Lugol's ,Potassion)
Would you mind sharing?

Alex Costa · 01/28/2018, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janci

Hi Alex
good to hear things are turning to the bright side again. Lovely pictures.
I am interested in your dosing schedule for all the elements you are adding (Koralcolor, Aquavittro Fuel, Borochrom, Ferrion, Lugol's ,Potassion)
Would you mind sharing?

Hi Janci,

My dosing schedule right now is:

Koralcolor - 10ml/day
Aquavittro Fuel - 30ml/day
Borochrom - 30ml/day
Ferrion - 30ml/day
Lugol's - 5 drops every other day
Potassion - as needed, to keep the level around 430ppm

But this isn't reference for nothing and no one...
My tank is getting out from as very very depleted water condition state and even myself, intend to keep this schedule for more 1 or 2 weeks and then, reduce it.

The bigger problem of dosing micro/trace elements, Iron, Boron, Iodo, aminos, vitamins and things like that, is the lack, or even the inexistence, of reliable test kits.
So you have to do it based only in your personal experience and the knowledge that you have of your own system.

To try to do the same dosing schedule in a diferent system could lead to some MAJOR problems...

Best Regards.
Alex

janci · 01/29/2018, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Costa

Hi Janci,

My dosing schedule right now is:
Koralcolor - 10ml/day
Aquavittro Fuel - 30ml/day
Borochrom - 30ml/day
Ferrion - 30ml/day
Lugol's - 5 drops every other day
Potassion - as needed, to keep the level around 430ppm

But this isn't reference for nothing and no one...
My tank is getting out from as very very depleted water condition state and even myself, intend to keep this schedule for more 1 or 2 weeks and then, reduce it.

To try to do the same dosing schedule in a diferent system could lead to some MAJOR problems...

Hi Alex, thanks for the info.
I was just interested in the quantities and frequency. i have no intention to copy anything.
And yes, I was also interested in your testing method, but as you say, trace elements are difficult to check and mostly rely on an experienced eye.

I have some trouble with that (I am only very short in the sps business) and like to know what changes do you notice when trace elements are depleted or are in abundance?

Alex Costa · 01/29/2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by janci

Hi Alex, thanks for the info.
I was just interested in the quantities and frequency. i have no intention to copy anything.
And yes, I was also interested in your testing method, but as you say, trace elements are difficult to check and mostly rely on an experienced eye.

I have some trouble with that (I am only very short in the sps business) and like to know what changes do you notice when trace elements are depleted or are in abundance?

I just want to make that clear to warn someone who drops in the thread, read that schedule and think: Oh...I think this is a good idea.
Don't do that in home, kids!

I think the kind of water testing made by Triton is just great.
It provides some good and accurate information, but it's not available here in Brazil.
So, I'm forced to guess what's going on.

The most visible sign that my tank was depleated was the pale colors....some sps, like setosa and vermiculata almost turned to white...
But this isn't not a rule and it's something hard to define.

Regards

Alex Costa · 01/30/2018, 03:36 AM

janci · 01/30/2018, 05:49 AM

I am amazed by your scape. That is very extraordinairy.
Also I notice you have very few fish. Some might be hiding, but it seems so.
For 1500L these fish can not produce enough NO3 for sure and can also explain the pale colours.

Alex Costa · 01/30/2018, 06:02 AM

You're right....I have very few fish and I intend to keep it that way.

But some are hiding due to the change that I've made in the lighting, trying (and failing miserably

) to get more accurate colors in the video.

Monkeyfish · 01/30/2018, 08:12 AM

All that open space is screaming for some pelagics.

Alex Costa · 01/30/2018, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyfish

All that open space is screaming for some pelagics.

I have 5 Green Chromis...It was 7 (2 died) and I'm planing to get 4 or 5 more.

And I have 4 anthias...

They provide some moviment in the the water column

Alex Costa · 01/30/2018, 02:23 PM

Darth_Tater · 01/30/2018, 02:29 PM

That's a neat picture. Tank is looking good!

janci · 01/31/2018, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Costa

... some are hiding due to the change that I've made in the lighting, trying (and failing miserably

) to get more accurate colors in the video.

Well, I did not want to mention it, but the colours in the video do not relate to the pictures you take.
Do not understand me wrong, it looks wonderful. Only the difference is there.
I guess there is no Lightroom for videos.

Alex Costa · 01/31/2018, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janci

Well, I did not want to mention it, but the colours in the video do not relate to the pictures you take.
Do not understand me wrong, it looks wonderful. Only the difference is there.
I guess there is no Lightroom for videos.

I know.......

The main problem is that for photos, I adjust the WB on my Canon reflex cam in the Custom Mode. That gives me colors very very close to real ones, that I see in the reef.
No need to correct color in the photoshop, wich I use to correct Exposition, Contrast/Brigtness, etc.
In the other hand, the cam that I used for the video is a Xiaomi 4K (Something like a Go Pro) and the WB adjusts didn't have a Custom mode.
So I've tried to change the Setup of my fixtures to avoid the blueish color in video.
Turning the blues down gave the videos a less blueish look, but the colors looked washed away...

I've tried several adjusts, but none gave me the fidelity that I've got with the Canon.

I've tried several celphones (Asus, Motorola, Sansumg, Iphone ) and none gave me good results too....

Next thing to try is an ambar gel film ....

reefmutt · 01/31/2018, 08:34 AM

Love the video, Flow.
I just love the open spaces. Such great dimensions in your tank.
Beautiful balance.
And JJ is the perfect soundtrack.

Benson0219 · 01/31/2018, 10:09 AM

Nice video. Beautiful tank.

Alex Costa · 01/31/2018, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefmutt

Love the video, Flow.
I just love the open spaces. Such great dimensions in your tank.
Beautiful balance.
And JJ is the perfect soundtrack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson0219

Nice video. Beautiful tank.

Thanks!

Alex Costa · 01/31/2018, 12:35 PM

I never saw any of my systems as a sps systems or even a sps dominat systems.
Of course that I've got a lot of sticks but one of my goals with this system was to acomplish a diversity of animals that I have got with the last ones. Maybe more.
I've always found this blue tuxedo urchin interesting and now the opotunity of get one, big and healthy, shows up.
I'm just a little worried about the longevity that it'll have so if you have some experience, please share.

Alex

Darth_Tater · 01/31/2018, 12:53 PM

I have a pincushion urchin in my 40 gallon that eats coralline algae. It must eat other algae too, all I know is that where it goes the rock is scraped completely clean. You can clearly see the path it has taken on the rocks throughout the day. I've had this urchin for at least 2 years.

I believe that's a tuxedo urchin. I think the behavior is similar to pincushions. Pretty sure it will have plenty to eat in your tank if my 40 gallon can sustain one for 2+ years!

Alex Costa · 01/31/2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Tater

I have a pincushion urchin in my 40 gallon that eats coralline algae. It must eat other algae too, all I know is that where it goes the rock is scraped completely clean. You can clearly see the path it has taken on the rocks throughout the day. I've had this urchin for at least 2 years.

I believe that's a tuxedo urchin. I think the behavior is similar to pincushions. Pretty sure it will have plenty to eat in your tank if my 40 gallon can sustain one for 2+ years!

You're right...it's a blue tuxedo....
2 years is a good perspective....

01/18/2018, 10:25 PM	#226
choss Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Scarsdale NY Posts: 526	Alex, Just catching upon this thread. I had admired your TOTM in the past but this rebirth is spectacular! Following along. __________________ ________ Reef Savvy 96 Gallon Rimless Tank - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2643140 Current Tank Info: Reef Savvy 96

01/25/2018, 06:08 PM	#228
Alex Costa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Itupeva - SP - Brasil Posts: 673	No new fish No new coral But some new photos. Slowly the sps are regaining color and are starting to grow again. The greens, the color that suffered the most, are turning a little better too. Until the end of 2017 I was doing monthly FTSs but from now on, I'll be doing it bimonthly just to register the evolution of the tank. I think the tank needs no less than 2 months to start to look like it was before the problems with nutrients/Ra. I'm now keeping a very little portion of chaeto, of the size of a tenis ball. And I'll harvest it more frequently to let the nutrients level of the tank rises again. To help with it I'm feeding the fishes with fresh food again, heavilly, and I'm dosing a lot of stuff, with a positive response (Koralcolor, Aquavittro Fuel, Borochrom, Ferrion, Lugol's ,Potassion) Alex __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/49229306@N02/ http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/153-tank-of-the-month Current Tank Info: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596707

01/25/2018, 06:25 PM	#229
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	Looking fantastic Alex! __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

01/26/2018, 06:15 AM	#230
DiscusHeckel Acropora Gardener Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 2,780	Very inspiring Alex. __________________ Featured Tank OCT 2016 \| "Reef Hobbyist Magazine" TOTM OCT 2016 \| "Ultimate Reef", UK FB \| "/troutsReefTank/" 65G SPS Reef- ATI 8 X 39W PM; TM [Bacto-Balance A-; Reef Actif; Nitribiotic; Iodine]

01/26/2018, 01:06 PM	#231
Alex Costa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Itupeva - SP - Brasil Posts: 673	Thanks Matt and Bulent... __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/49229306@N02/ http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/153-tank-of-the-month Current Tank Info: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596707

01/30/2018, 03:36 AM	#236
Alex Costa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Itupeva - SP - Brasil Posts: 673	__________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/49229306@N02/ http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/153-tank-of-the-month Current Tank Info: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596707

01/30/2018, 05:49 AM	#237
janci Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UAE - Dubai Posts: 167	I am amazed by your scape. That is very extraordinairy. Also I notice you have very few fish. Some might be hiding, but it seems so. For 1500L these fish can not produce enough NO3 for sure and can also explain the pale colours.

01/30/2018, 06:02 AM	#238
Alex Costa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Itupeva - SP - Brasil Posts: 673	You're right....I have very few fish and I intend to keep it that way. But some are hiding due to the change that I've made in the lighting, trying (and failing miserably ) to get more accurate colors in the video. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/49229306@N02/ http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/153-tank-of-the-month Current Tank Info: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596707

01/30/2018, 08:12 AM	#239
Monkeyfish Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Long Island (NY) Posts: 4,077	All that open space is screaming for some pelagics. __________________ Eric "One thing that humbles me deeply is to see that human genius has its limits while human stupidity does not." Current Tank Info: Taking a break

01/30/2018, 02:23 PM	#241
Alex Costa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Itupeva - SP - Brasil Posts: 673	__________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/49229306@N02/ http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/153-tank-of-the-month Current Tank Info: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596707

01/30/2018, 02:29 PM	#242
Darth_Tater Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Northern Utah Posts: 535	That's a neat picture. Tank is looking good! __________________ It's probably in your best interest to ignore most of my advice.

01/31/2018, 08:34 AM	#245
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	Love the video, Flow. I just love the open spaces. Such great dimensions in your tank. Beautiful balance. And JJ is the perfect soundtrack. __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

01/31/2018, 10:09 AM	#246
Benson0219 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 535	Nice video. Beautiful tank. __________________ 180 Gallon Reef Tank, Elite Aquatics Sump, Kessil A360we LEDS, AI Hydra 26 HD LEDS, Reef Octopus OCTO VarioS-6 Controllable DC Circulation Pump, Skimz Kone SK204 Skimmer, Vortex MP40 Powerhead. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon Reef Tank

01/31/2018, 12:35 PM	#248
Alex Costa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Itupeva - SP - Brasil Posts: 673	I never saw any of my systems as a sps systems or even a sps dominat systems. Of course that I've got a lot of sticks but one of my goals with this system was to acomplish a diversity of animals that I have got with the last ones. Maybe more. I've always found this blue tuxedo urchin interesting and now the opotunity of get one, big and healthy, shows up. I'm just a little worried about the longevity that it'll have so if you have some experience, please share. Alex __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/49229306@N02/ http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/153-tank-of-the-month Current Tank Info: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596707 Last edited by Alex Costa; 01/31/2018 at 01:27 PM.

01/31/2018, 12:53 PM	#249
Darth_Tater Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Northern Utah Posts: 535	I have a pincushion urchin in my 40 gallon that eats coralline algae. It must eat other algae too, all I know is that where it goes the rock is scraped completely clean. You can clearly see the path it has taken on the rocks throughout the day. I've had this urchin for at least 2 years. I believe that's a tuxedo urchin. I think the behavior is similar to pincushions. Pretty sure it will have plenty to eat in your tank if my 40 gallon can sustain one for 2+ years! __________________ It's probably in your best interest to ignore most of my advice.