Petes 270 project - Page 3

acarson19 · 05/08/2007, 08:56 AM

Duh, double post, sorry

acarson19 · 05/08/2007, 08:57 AM

Hey Pete,

It was nice to meet you at the Georgia Aquarium this weekend. Your tank looks great. Beautiful Angels!

Amy

petedoc · 05/08/2007, 01:10 PM

Amy, Good to hear from you! The meeting was a real treat and hearing Anthony Calfo was great. My tank is slowly progressing, but I sure do need a better camera or a better photographer! I just placed an order for two Pyramid Butterflies, a Regal Angel and a Flasher Wrasse through Tropical Fish Outlet, so I am quite excited. These will be the last fish until I decide which Trigger to add, either Pinktail or Sargassum.

Von_Rahvin · 05/08/2007, 03:14 PM

nice looking tank. I have always been to chicken to mix angels with corals. good luck on that though!

petedoc · 05/08/2007, 05:53 PM

Yes, Angels are a gamble, but they are spectacular fish. Many large tank owners have been successful with large angels in reef tanks, but you have to have a lot of live rock to keep them satisfied and feed them adequately. My 135 has three angels and sps and lps corals, all together now for 4 years. The lemon butterfly was the biggest problem, but that resolved in a Kalkwasser overdose.

petedoc · 05/16/2007, 09:21 PM

Just received my new vortech today and wow this thing is a major league water mover. The fish and corals are having a good time getting used to the increased flow. I think I will try running it at about half speed for just daylight hours and shutting it off at night. Is anyone using one of these on a simple timer? I plan to upgrade when the controllers become available, but for now simple dawn to dusk might be OK. Any suggestions?

petedoc · 06/28/2007, 08:42 AM

I had received the last of my fish on my stocking list about 3 weeks ago, including a Regal Angel, a Pinktail Trigger and a small Clown when I noticed that the trigger looked bad. The thing ate like a pig, but color was bad. Eventually all three fish died. Within the last 48 hrs almost all of my fish in the 270 have developed the same illness, probably Marine Velvet. This is a hard way to learn the lesson about careful quarantining. This will be the last time I buy fish from Marinedepotlive. The rest of the fish for this tank have come from Tropical Fish Outlet and have done very well.

lunker · 06/28/2007, 09:03 AM

you will love that vlamingi. I bought mine at about 1 1/4", and within 5 months he was around 6 1/2", amazing growth. Nice tank, good luck.

petedoc · 06/28/2007, 01:03 PM

I think you are correct, the vlamingi is a great fish, but it is one of the few left after the Velvet attack and it doesn't look long for this world. I had a great group of reef safe fish for awhile.

Bax · 06/28/2007, 06:52 PM

petedoc

Very sorry to read of your losses. I just started reading this thread and was eagerly looking forward to pics of these beautiful fish. QT is a PITA but does help. Don't get discourgaed.

petedoc · 06/28/2007, 07:25 PM

Bax, Thanks for reading the thread. The Chrysurus Angels were looking great. One had developed a yellow tail the other was clear, I was hoping they would be a pair. One is still left and looks determined to survive. We will see.

Bax · 06/28/2007, 07:33 PM

I hope it makes it

petedoc · 06/28/2007, 09:52 PM

Well I just finished a 100 gallon water change and the fish that remain alive do look better. I have also increase salinity to 1.25 We will see what tomorrow brings

petedoc · 06/29/2007, 09:10 PM

Oh well, the last Chrysurus Angel bit the dust this morning. The only remaining fish are a school of Green Chromies, a Clown and a Rabbitfish. This is really depressing. Hopefully the parasite will die off and I will be able to restock the tank in a few months. Any have experience with similar problems? I don't want to treat the tank with anything that would injure the corals and inverts, any suggestions?

Ithreeputt2 · 06/30/2007, 01:57 AM

No suggestions just lots of sympothy....good luck

steve

petedoc · 07/04/2007, 07:14 PM

Well, just got back from vacation and the tank has not changed! Surprisingly all the remaining fish are alive, nothing died while I was gone. The only fish to survive the plague/marine velvet were the school of Green Chromies, the Vlamingi Tang and the the Rabbitfish. Hard to figure why these fish survived and all others were wiped out. Any thoughts on similar experiences out there? Also, when can I try adding new fish?

lunker · 07/06/2007, 07:51 AM

tangs are pretty darned hardy fish, I had a stint of bad luck with mine, but after 2 months in quarantine and copper, they all made it, and came back to perfect health, good luck

petedoc · 07/12/2007, 10:01 PM

Well, my second Vortech arrived and I am experimenting with location of the device. I have found that with one on each end of the tank, in opposing but offset locations, I can generate a tremendous whirlpool effect in time. I estimate my current total flow to be about the equivalent of 13,000gal/hr through the 270 gal tank. I am looking forward to the availability of the controller, manually adjusting these things gets tedious. I guess its a good thing that only a few fish are left during the tune up time, the remaining fish seem to take cover during whirlpool activities. Anyone have any suggestions on how to use a pair of Vortechs?

petedoc · 10/30/2007, 08:38 PM

Well, time to update my thread. Since I last wrote the tank now has a pair of Vortechs up and running on opposite ends of the tank in anti-synch mode. Still not sure what the optimal settings are yet. Also, replaced the Barr Aqautic Skimmer. It was too noisy and I wanted to try some else! First I bought a AquaEuroUsa 250, which was noisy and not all that impressive. Then I decided that since my new DAS EX-1 was working so well on the 135 gal tank that a Aquabee mod was a good idea. I then acquired the stuff to mod the AE-USA 250 and proceeded to cut, drill, bore, and modify the thing and attach a pair of Aquabee pumps. The result has been fantastic! This thing skims beautifully. It took a while to fine tune the standpipe output, but it now produces fantastic fluffy clouds of gunk, that fill the skimmer cup with dark brown gravy skimmate. Got to love it. Also I have begun restocking after the devastating Marine Velvet outbreak earlier this year. I have added an Atlantic Blue Tang, a six pack of Dispar Anthias and a Blue Jaw Trigger. All are doing well.

Bax · 10/30/2007, 09:00 PM

Let's see some pics!

petedoc · 10/30/2007, 09:44 PM

petedoc · 10/30/2007, 09:50 PM

petedoc · 12/05/2007, 07:47 PM

Well, much to my wife's surprise, I finished the cabinetry for the stand and hood in time for Thanksgiving!

petedoc · 12/05/2007, 07:47 PM

Well, much to my wife's surprise, I finished the cabinetry for the stand and hood in time for Thanksgiving!

petedoc · 12/05/2007, 07:53 PM

These are the sliding doors for the light cabinet. They are simple and very easy to use.

05/08/2007, 01:10 PM	#53
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Amy, Good to hear from you! The meeting was a real treat and hearing Anthony Calfo was great. My tank is slowly progressing, but I sure do need a better camera or a better photographer! I just placed an order for two Pyramid Butterflies, a Regal Angel and a Flasher Wrasse through Tropical Fish Outlet, so I am quite excited. These will be the last fish until I decide which Trigger to add, either Pinktail or Sargassum. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

05/08/2007, 05:53 PM	#55
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Yes, Angels are a gamble, but they are spectacular fish. Many large tank owners have been successful with large angels in reef tanks, but you have to have a lot of live rock to keep them satisfied and feed them adequately. My 135 has three angels and sps and lps corals, all together now for 4 years. The lemon butterfly was the biggest problem, but that resolved in a Kalkwasser overdose. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

05/16/2007, 09:21 PM	#56
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Just received my new vortech today and wow this thing is a major league water mover. The fish and corals are having a good time getting used to the increased flow. I think I will try running it at about half speed for just daylight hours and shutting it off at night. Is anyone using one of these on a simple timer? I plan to upgrade when the controllers become available, but for now simple dawn to dusk might be OK. Any suggestions? __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

06/28/2007, 08:42 AM	#57
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Major Error! I had received the last of my fish on my stocking list about 3 weeks ago, including a Regal Angel, a Pinktail Trigger and a small Clown when I noticed that the trigger looked bad. The thing ate like a pig, but color was bad. Eventually all three fish died. Within the last 48 hrs almost all of my fish in the 270 have developed the same illness, probably Marine Velvet. This is a hard way to learn the lesson about careful quarantining. This will be the last time I buy fish from Marinedepotlive. The rest of the fish for this tank have come from Tropical Fish Outlet and have done very well. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

06/28/2007, 01:03 PM	#59
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	I think you are correct, the vlamingi is a great fish, but it is one of the few left after the Velvet attack and it doesn't look long for this world. I had a great group of reef safe fish for awhile. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

05/08/2007, 08:56 AM	#51
acarson19 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 66	Duh, double post, sorry

05/08/2007, 08:57 AM	#52
acarson19 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 66	Hey Pete, It was nice to meet you at the Georgia Aquarium this weekend. Your tank looks great. Beautiful Angels! Amy

05/08/2007, 03:14 PM	#54
Von_Rahvin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Fl Posts: 346	nice looking tank. I have always been to chicken to mix angels with corals. good luck on that though!

06/28/2007, 09:03 AM	#58
lunker Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 94	you will love that vlamingi. I bought mine at about 1 1/4", and within 5 months he was around 6 1/2", amazing growth. Nice tank, good luck.

06/28/2007, 06:52 PM	#60
Bax Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,619	petedoc Very sorry to read of your losses. I just started reading this thread and was eagerly looking forward to pics of these beautiful fish. QT is a PITA but does help. Don't get discourgaed. __________________ 150 gallon Perfecto with 1500 gph GH overflow / DIY stand-wine bar / Dart Return / SRO XP3000 Ext skimmer / 75 g frag / 40 g fuge / 40 g DIY sump / Orphek P156 & Kessil 150A Current Tank Info: 150 DT/ 40B fuge/ 75g frag/ 40 g sump/ SRO XP 3000 Ext/ TUNZEs & VorTechs circulation/Dart return/ MTC Pro Cal/ UV & Oz

06/28/2007, 07:25 PM	#61
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Bax, Thanks for reading the thread. The Chrysurus Angels were looking great. One had developed a yellow tail the other was clear, I was hoping they would be a pair. One is still left and looks determined to survive. We will see. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

06/28/2007, 07:33 PM	#62
Bax Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,619	I hope it makes it __________________ 150 gallon Perfecto with 1500 gph GH overflow / DIY stand-wine bar / Dart Return / SRO XP3000 Ext skimmer / 75 g frag / 40 g fuge / 40 g DIY sump / Orphek P156 & Kessil 150A Current Tank Info: 150 DT/ 40B fuge/ 75g frag/ 40 g sump/ SRO XP 3000 Ext/ TUNZEs & VorTechs circulation/Dart return/ MTC Pro Cal/ UV & Oz

06/28/2007, 09:52 PM	#63
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Well I just finished a 100 gallon water change and the fish that remain alive do look better. I have also increase salinity to 1.25 We will see what tomorrow brings __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

06/29/2007, 09:10 PM	#64
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Oh well, the last Chrysurus Angel bit the dust this morning. The only remaining fish are a school of Green Chromies, a Clown and a Rabbitfish. This is really depressing. Hopefully the parasite will die off and I will be able to restock the tank in a few months. Any have experience with similar problems? I don't want to treat the tank with anything that would injure the corals and inverts, any suggestions? __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

06/30/2007, 01:57 AM	#65
Ithreeputt2 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gahanna, OH Posts: 86	No suggestions just lots of sympothy....good luck steve

07/04/2007, 07:14 PM	#66
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Well, just got back from vacation and the tank has not changed! Surprisingly all the remaining fish are alive, nothing died while I was gone. The only fish to survive the plague/marine velvet were the school of Green Chromies, the Vlamingi Tang and the the Rabbitfish. Hard to figure why these fish survived and all others were wiped out. Any thoughts on similar experiences out there? Also, when can I try adding new fish? __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

07/06/2007, 07:51 AM	#67
lunker Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 94	tangs are pretty darned hardy fish, I had a stint of bad luck with mine, but after 2 months in quarantine and copper, they all made it, and came back to perfect health, good luck

07/12/2007, 10:01 PM	#68
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Well, my second Vortech arrived and I am experimenting with location of the device. I have found that with one on each end of the tank, in opposing but offset locations, I can generate a tremendous whirlpool effect in time. I estimate my current total flow to be about the equivalent of 13,000gal/hr through the 270 gal tank. I am looking forward to the availability of the controller, manually adjusting these things gets tedious. I guess its a good thing that only a few fish are left during the tune up time, the remaining fish seem to take cover during whirlpool activities. Anyone have any suggestions on how to use a pair of Vortechs? __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

10/30/2007, 08:38 PM	#69
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Well, time to update my thread. Since I last wrote the tank now has a pair of Vortechs up and running on opposite ends of the tank in anti-synch mode. Still not sure what the optimal settings are yet. Also, replaced the Barr Aqautic Skimmer. It was too noisy and I wanted to try some else! First I bought a AquaEuroUsa 250, which was noisy and not all that impressive. Then I decided that since my new DAS EX-1 was working so well on the 135 gal tank that a Aquabee mod was a good idea. I then acquired the stuff to mod the AE-USA 250 and proceeded to cut, drill, bore, and modify the thing and attach a pair of Aquabee pumps. The result has been fantastic! This thing skims beautifully. It took a while to fine tune the standpipe output, but it now produces fantastic fluffy clouds of gunk, that fill the skimmer cup with dark brown gravy skimmate. Got to love it. Also I have begun restocking after the devastating Marine Velvet outbreak earlier this year. I have added an Atlantic Blue Tang, a six pack of Dispar Anthias and a Blue Jaw Trigger. All are doing well. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

10/30/2007, 09:00 PM	#70
Bax Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,619	Let's see some pics! __________________ 150 gallon Perfecto with 1500 gph GH overflow / DIY stand-wine bar / Dart Return / SRO XP3000 Ext skimmer / 75 g frag / 40 g fuge / 40 g DIY sump / Orphek P156 & Kessil 150A Current Tank Info: 150 DT/ 40B fuge/ 75g frag/ 40 g sump/ SRO XP 3000 Ext/ TUNZEs & VorTechs circulation/Dart return/ MTC Pro Cal/ UV & Oz

10/30/2007, 09:44 PM	#71
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	My skimmer mod __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

10/30/2007, 09:50 PM	#72
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	My Emporer as Juvenile __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

12/05/2007, 07:47 PM	#73
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Well, much to my wife's surprise, I finished the cabinetry for the stand and hood in time for Thanksgiving! __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

12/05/2007, 07:53 PM	#75
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	These are the sliding doors for the light cabinet. They are simple and very easy to use. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger