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Unread 12/31/2017, 05:11 PM   #1
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ocellaris clownfish?

So, just curious if anyone’s ocellaris clownfish turned black on the top? The fish store I buy from had their ocellaris and Picasso’s together. Could it be a mixed fish LOL


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Unread 12/31/2017, 05:21 PM   #2
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Your fish is probably a cross between a regular ocellaris and a Darwin ocellaris.


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Unread 12/31/2017, 05:26 PM   #3
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Your fish is probably a cross between a regular ocellaris and a Darwin ocellaris.


That’s pretty neat!! He looked just like the others to begin with.... I kinda wish he would change all the way black and white now


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Unread 12/31/2017, 08:33 PM   #4
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I thin some juvenile black & white ocellaris start of like that, then become black & white when maturity


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Unread 12/31/2017, 09:33 PM   #5
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I thin some juvenile black & white ocellaris start of like that, then become black & white when maturity

I’m anxious to see if he will change all the way. He was orange 3 months ago.


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Unread 12/31/2017, 09:50 PM   #6
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Unread 01/01/2018, 09:18 AM   #7
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I've noticed as they become female they start to take on darker coloration


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Unread 01/02/2018, 07:44 PM   #8
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My male has gotten the alot darker on top..
My female she is still very orange.. but has white highlights at the tips of her fins..


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Unread 01/03/2018, 09:59 AM   #9
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Looks more like a true percula to me


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Looks more like a true percula to me
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Unread 01/03/2018, 10:38 AM   #11
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agreed.


I guess, I don’t really know the difference between the two! Lol


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Unread 01/03/2018, 10:40 AM   #12
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I guess, I don’t really know the difference between the two! Lol


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I just googled it. and agree. I wonder if the rest of him will turn black.


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Unread 01/03/2018, 10:45 AM   #13
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Looks more like a true percula to me

So he may end up looking more like this? I actually prefer the “classic Nemo” but it will be cool to see if he does change more.




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So, what's the difference? I'm not sure color is very reliable, especially with captive bred clowns that have been artificially selected for certain traits.

Looking at fishbase, it looks like you can sometimes tell be dorsal spine counts...but only sometimes.


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I don't think its a good idea to have three clowns in one tank. Two will pair up and kill the other imo


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So, what's the difference? I'm not sure color is very reliable, especially with captive bred clowns that have been artificially selected for certain traits.



Looking at fishbase, it looks like you can sometimes tell be dorsal spine counts...but only sometimes.


I just read that. He is a baby still so I can’t even begin to count the spines lol. They are too little.


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Unread 01/03/2018, 11:22 AM   #17
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I don't think its a good idea to have three clowns in one tank. Two will pair up and kill the other imo


2 of them are really young and the other one isn’t much older. They seem to get along fine. I have a friend that has one tank full of clownfish. He probably has 40 in one tank.

Do you say that because of it being an odd number or are you saying that 2 clownfish max is what you should have in a tank? I’m new to this, so I have only gone by what my LFS says and a friend that has 5 saltwater tanks in his house I will watch for aggression though.



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Unread 01/03/2018, 11:38 AM   #18
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I think a large group has a better potential of working than 3. Three will not work, at least one will get killed. I'm shocked your LFS said 3 was ok, I think its pretty much common knowledge for those in the industry.

It may work for a while, but they will turn and at least one will die.

2 is the max for most reef tanks imo


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As they get older, yes they may develop more black. Not all are the same patterns though. As far as 3 clowns, like stated above, not a good idea. One will end of dead with the others injured. Never good. Once they become more mature, it will be the largest that will become female, the males will then fight. The female will also become aggressive at first to both males. Two is much more simple. They should pair after a few scuffles and thatll be it. 3 will prolong that process, complicate things, and sadly cause a never ending fight.


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Mine are almost all black now from getting stung by the corals they force themselves into.


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Unread 01/08/2018, 11:58 AM   #21
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I guess, I don’t really know the difference between the two! Lol


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Just a follow up...

I'm not a clownfish guy.

After some reading regarding difference between percula and occelaris, it looks like the eyes are the giveaway.

Big, black pupils on occ. Percs have orange around the pupil.


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Unread 01/08/2018, 12:30 PM   #22
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Nice colour, one of a million variations these days with mix breeding, doubt that will all turn black, not a Darwin clown, they only come from one specific area and all the ones I had only had a little orange in the mouth, this went to complete black in 18 months.
1,2,3,5.....as long as they are from the same species, it doesn't matter unless one is being consistently chased for more than 48 hours and always hides, if so, take him out fir 48 hours and reintroduce at night...repeat.....mostly they learn to get along....


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