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Old 08/13/2017, 12:04 PM   #26
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Old 08/13/2017, 12:29 PM   #27
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Gandy..

I'm confused. Are you selling your sump?
You are currently set up with a continuous auto water change system, are you not?


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Old 08/13/2017, 03:32 PM   #28
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This is just my opinion:

Triton method is not for everyone.
It could be a big waste of money in certain tanks.
A 180 clownfish/ bta anemone display wouldn't benefit
greatly from Triton method.
You should be able to run a spectacular algae free display without Triton and/or continuous water exchanges.


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Old 08/18/2017, 03:05 PM   #29
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You going to get some crazy expensive refugium light like BRS?
I haven't tun a refugium in a few years and I'm going to add one. Looks like lighting them has become a science all to its own.


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Old 08/18/2017, 03:12 PM   #30
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No!

The BRS videos would have you believe that crazy expensive lighting is a necessity and they don't mention the fact that Triton suggests using a variety of macros- not just Chaeto.
I'm sure some people end up concluding a special sump is necessary as well!


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Old 08/18/2017, 03:14 PM   #31
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Recall the thread on RC by puter regarding Chaeto- it does NOT need a lot of light to thrive if you have all the other environmental conditions right for it.


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Old 08/18/2017, 03:18 PM   #32
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Oh...

While I'm here I might as well mention that my Triton tests arrived yesterday. I won't use them right away because I just added some new media (zeo mag) to my calcium reactor and things are currently in a greater than usual flux.


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Old 08/18/2017, 06:36 PM   #33
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Looking at Triton it makes sense but is it a cost vs convenience situation? Can you use home remedies to circumvent their expensive supplements, slurries, and pixie dust?


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Old 08/18/2017, 06:52 PM   #34
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Due to septic system

I have no choice but to learn how to get by on a much reduced water change schedule.


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Old 08/18/2017, 08:26 PM   #35
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What's you plan for a stack? New rock, or rock transfer?


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Old 08/18/2017, 09:20 PM   #36
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I'll probably use the rock I have now. No peninsula, so most likely a different arrangement


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Old 08/21/2017, 03:04 PM   #37
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Gary, you need to figure out a way to dump saltwater somewhere... I've got a basement drain that goes out about 300' to daylight. I'll be converting it into a drywell, which is just a hole with gravel and landscape fabric around it to keep silt out.
Any chance you can do something like this?


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Old 08/21/2017, 03:18 PM   #38
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I understand where you're coming from, Dan

Take a look at the Triton display. Have a look- see at the aquariums of Glenn Fong.
I already have the Triton test kits. I've already gone one month with no water changes to cover their cost.


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Old 08/21/2017, 03:20 PM   #39
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Also, I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that water changes are bad for your septic system...

I've thought about this myself, and I'm not sure either way. I know they've done studies and the consensus is that softeners dumping into the septic system don't cause any issues. My water softener adds quite a bit of salt to the septic system, like 80 pounds every month...


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Old 08/21/2017, 03:25 PM   #40
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I'll be re-setting up the tank in the new house soon, and now I've got some reading to do...



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Old 08/21/2017, 03:29 PM   #41
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Every septic system is different

I'm very concerned for my particular location.
Ok...it's all just an excuse to be lazy.

All kidding aside, I personally believe this is the direction of reef aquariums in the 200 to 1,000 gallon range.
Perhaps even larger than 1,000 USA gallon systems.
It can't hurt to give it a shot- I can always go back to what I've been doing for 20 years.


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Old 08/21/2017, 08:19 PM   #42
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I'm slowly coming around, not necessarily to "Triton Brand" but certainly their methodology. I'll likely ham and egg a bastardized version using my friendly neighborhood chemist.


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Old 08/22/2017, 09:02 PM   #43
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I'll be following closely...I recall you used to rarely test for anything Gary, what little I know about Triton looks like a 180 degree turn! FWIW I dumped saltwater into a septic tank and out a window to run along the foundation for years with no issues. Hard to believe you can do better than your 20+ years of success!


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Old 08/23/2017, 06:35 PM   #44
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I don't think Triton is a 180 for me-
it will be more like guiding me back on track as I roll along.
There will be a lot of new factors for me to deal with.


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Old 08/23/2017, 06:37 PM   #45
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Devil s advocate here. Tom's/ reefshope tank is tap water and a tote/ sump. BIG A $$ water change as needed. not saying it's right , it's the tank I judge all others against. poop is poop. It has to come out. The fancey pants dialysis unit the museum used was not the answer. consistent , hassle free water changes is the only method that works for me. too much work , forget it. Snake oil , automation, clean up crews, maybe stretch the time table. once it feels like work or life gets in the way. My tanks unravel. equipment failure or maintenance issues are my downfall.


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Old 08/24/2017, 11:54 AM   #46
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There is no right or wrong way. If the system is very efficient at removing waste and you're willing to pay very close attention to nutrient levels and trace element depletion, there's no reason you can't get by on zero water changes. Most people (including me) would rather just change the water than get that deep into the chemistry.


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Old 08/24/2017, 03:40 PM   #47
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Gary, did you move ?


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Old 08/24/2017, 06:13 PM   #48
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Gary, did you move ?
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Old 09/02/2017, 03:54 PM   #49
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New aquarium and stand installed

Thanks to everyone at Caribbean Forest for helping me out!
I've been posting pix on my fb wall.


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