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01/06/2020, 12:09 PM | #1 |
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Tangs - input please
I am starting to gather a stocking list for my custom REEF aquarium. 560 gallons 126" x 32" x 32". I know that tang interactions are a big deal and some are meaner then others. I am planning to stock tangs first as they are herbivores and good for first fish with ZeoVit. Thank you in advance.
White Tail Bristletooth Achiles Chevron Gem tang - maybe - definitely at a later date White Cheek Lavender Yellow - i have heard that these school in large aquariums so maybe 3-5 depending on opinions here Other stocking plans ANTHIAS - plan on groups of 5 - 7 Princess Barlett's Randall's Dispar ANGEL - groups of 2-3 Watanabei Bellus Lamarks TRIGGERS - pair of each Blue Throat Red Tail WRASSE Labouti Lineatus Yellow Coris Brunneus Crescent Katherine's Zoster butterfly jawfish and gobies as well but i am not focused on that as i like to just see what i like and pick them up at LFS Any other reef safe ideas are welcomed as well. |
01/06/2020, 10:39 PM | #2 |
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Even in a large tank I would not put the tangs in first as some of your more timid /peaceful choices might have trouble acclimating.
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+1^ I will tell you that I had 5 yellow tangs in my 625g and it didn't work out long term. One died, I gave one away and the last 2 have formed a pair and are working out great. For whatever reason my fish just seem to be aggressive and the norm or what should work doesn't. I only have 13 fish in my tank but they still fight from time to time, especially my Achilles and Parrotfish. Just keep in mind you may need a backup plan of all the tangs don't work out together. I would add all the tangs at once and I would also pick either the blue throat or red tailed trigger pair, not both. Typically blue throats don't work out long term as the males colors fade and they look rather drab, often fighting one another for the male "spot"
Once your tank is established it will be nearly impossible to easily remove any fish that goes into the tank, not that you haven't thought of that but it is a HUGE pain to take rock out of a tank to try and catch one fish
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01/07/2020, 04:54 PM | #4 |
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+2. Some tangs can be the nastiest fish ever. I have a powder brown that absolutely hates my rock beauty that was added after him. Luckily he has a lot of rock work to hide in so he can avoid the tang. When I catch him that tang is going back to LFS. I did quarantine and make sure the angel was very healthy and a great eater before adding him. Otherwise I don’t think he would have been strong enough.
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I have to agree with the above. The order of introduction is critical for your fish's survival. Tangs should be added last. You want to add the smallest, most timid fish first, like gobies and blennies. They need time to get established unharassed, or they will never make it in your tank. In fact, with your list having tangs, large angels and triggers, you're not likely to have success with any but the toughest small fish. Ignore these posts at your peril.
One of the best utility fish to add early in your tank's life is mollies, say, the first six months. They acclimate to full strength seawater no problem. If you don't feed them, they will go after your algae, even cyano, with gusto. Plus they are prolific live-bearers, effectively turning algae into feeder fish! A lawnmower blenny, possibly two in a big tank like yours, are another good algae eater. One more thought: wrasses are gorgeous fish and very intelligent. However, they are extremely good at hunting down every living small critter in your tank, leaving your substrate and rocks lifeless. So if you are trying to establish a functioning ecosystem, I would avoid them. If that's not a priority, then wrasse it up!
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I would also add, reduce the population of surgeon fish, Achilles surgeon is a beautiful fish but also aggressive, just talking about it. The school of yellow tangs that you want to maintain, I don't see very possible either. I would reduce the population to only 2 or 3 tangs. Be careful with Genicanthus spp. choose a couple or two species of couples, these angels sometimes just do not tolerate each other.
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01/08/2020, 09:39 PM | #7 |
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I have vlamingi, scopas, clown and 5 yellows in my 225. They get along fine. Granted it’s only been 2 years and the yellows just about 6 month ago but so far so good.
There was trouble when I added the yellows but I used the mirror trick for a week and now they get along like brothers. Occasional squabbling but nothing serious.
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I have 11 tangs in my 300 gallon and all are getting along. I have 3 yellows, 2 blues, 2 purple and 1 of each of the following: sailfin, powder blue, yellow-eye kole, blonde naso. Planning to add a Gem soon. Most of the tangs were the first fish I added. I guess some tangs might be nasty but I have had very good experience with them in my 10+ years with tangs.
Love these guys. Colorful, easy, reef-safe, useful and relatively inexpensive.
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I have a PBT, Yellow and Purple tang in my 320. Don’t have much problem. I also have a Harlequin Tust, two Regal Angels and 4 Flame angels. In addition to these I have a bunch of wrasses and a Mandarin pairs.
My tangs has not occasionally fight among themselves but not much. They pretty much ignored all the other fishes except the other tangs.
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Minh,
Have you had any problems with your Flame Angles bothering your corals? I was wanting to add a Flame to my Mixed Reef. Thanks, Dean |
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You don't have to worry. Male Flame angel will not chase a female Flame angel, except very mildly to show dominance. Two females will chase each other a little bit more, never to the point of injury, or tear fins.
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