ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club - Page 110

horseplay · 08/08/2015, 12:02 PM

36x4 will work very well for you

bucfan · 08/08/2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross33

What unit would you recommend for 36x20x20 sps dominant? Would the 4x24 cover it?

IMO for SPS get the 8 bulb unit. SPS demand light. Not sure how it'll sit if your tank is 20" front to back. 24" will cover most of the tank but you will have some shading on the side. With 36" there's no worries.

ClownsRCoo · 08/08/2015, 03:28 PM

Hey guys I just hooked up my light. No instructions with it though. Can I find those on ATI's website?

Also on my sunpower the fans ran 24/7... So far no fans have turned on yet. When do these fans cut on for this fixture?

bucfan · 08/08/2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ClownsRCoo

Hey guys I just hooked up my light. No instructions with it though. Can I find those on ATI's website?

Also on my sunpower the fans ran 24/7... So far no fans have turned on yet. When do these fans cut on for this fixture?

Download the software from the ATI website and connect the laptop to your lamp via USB then program. It's really easy. Fans only come on as needed.

ClownsRCoo · 08/08/2015, 04:22 PM

Sweet thanks

ClownsRCoo · 08/08/2015, 05:01 PM

Can you run that software on a MAC? It takes me to a website to buy this software called Parallels. Is that right or is this Windows only software?

bucfan · 08/08/2015, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ClownsRCoo

Can you run that software on a MAC? It takes me to a website to buy this software called Parallels. Is that right or is this Windows only software?

It's Windows only. No Mac version!! I'm a Mac guy too but luckily have an old Win machine here. I think you can run it under Parallels on your Mac. Never tried it myself. Maybe someone else can chime in.

drew930 · 08/08/2015, 06:48 PM

What would the ideal fixture be for a 120 (4x2x2) ? Mainly will have LPS but maybe a few SPS . Was thinking a 4x54 or 8x39 . 4x39 wouldn't be enough would it ?

ClownsRCoo · 08/08/2015, 06:57 PM

Even on my wife's PC it keeps taking me to that parallels website. Can someone send me the link for where I can program this light? Do you have to pay for parallels or something to be able to program the light or something?

bucfan · 08/08/2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ClownsRCoo

Even on my wife's PC it keeps taking me to that parallels website. Can someone send me the link for where I can program this light? Do you have to pay for parallels or something to be able to program the light or something?

Parallels is a software that allows you to run Win on a Mac. You may have to get it if you don't have a Win laptop.

horseplay · 08/08/2015, 08:44 PM

Many people have asked what size fixture to get. I have the 4T5 x 48" fixture over the 24"x48"x21"(h) tank and did the measurement using a Apogee par meter. The measurement is not scientific but to give a general idea of how strong the light level is. I measured several configurations but the one I present here is for 100% T5 + 50% LED. Note that LED is not 100% on all channels. The blues are close to 100% while the white and reds are minimum levels. So this is close to how the light is run in real life. I run 60% LED currently. The light is hung 10" off the water surface.

First of all if you have a 36" tank you should get a 36" fixture. The T5 level drop off is very quick at the ends. So in effect you will lose about 2 to 3 inches at each end. Plus 2 clusters is much better than 1.

The middle of the tank par levels are 450-550 (surface), 350-410 (10" from surface), 250 (20" from surface).

One thing to note is that the light level at bottom is pretty even. So the light is covering the tank well. I normally have the SPS mounted at least 3" off the bottom so I should have enough light. The experience from the last 6 months or so have confirmed this.

The only place where the light is not enough is close to the surface in the front and back. This is because the light is cone shaped. 8 bulb fixture should remediate this problem.

Now you can decide base on your need.

For reference this is a picture of the tank. I completely redid the rock work two weeks ago so the tank is bare but I am seeing amazing colors under the light (of course the color cannot be pictured).

drew930 · 08/09/2015, 08:29 AM

So a 4x54 would be enough to penetrate a 120, enough for even SPS ? Looks like you have some and it's just 3-4" taller than yours ... Just curious . I won't be able to buy one new . I'll have to see one come up used . I like the fact of 8 bulb having more color combos , but will more expensive . If I can swing the 4 bulb I'm all for it . Having 3 clusters of LEDs can probably help my color options a lot ? Is it fair to say that the 4 bulb with 3 clusters still have a lot of color options ? Maybe run a blue , pink, daytime and one other , then have leds to dial in the desired color ?

bucfan · 08/09/2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by drew930

So a 4x54 would be enough to penetrate a 120, enough for even SPS ? Looks like you have some and it's just 3-4" taller than yours ... Just curious . I won't be able to buy one new . I'll have to see one come up used . I like the fact of 8 bulb having more color combos , but will more expensive . If I can swing the 4 bulb I'm all for it . Having 3 clusters of LEDs can probably help my color options a lot ? Is it fair to say that the 4 bulb with 3 clusters still have a lot of color options ? Maybe run a blue , pink, daytime and one other , then have leds to dial in the desired color ?

I had a 4 lamp PacSun hybrid before this and could not do SPS. Not sure if it was the lamp or the tank but my set up was similar. With my current 8 bulb hybrid I can do SPS easy. And with 8 bulbs there's so much more leeway for color combos. So if they had a 10 bulb lamp I would get that. That's my opinion only. Others may disagree or have different experiences.

drew930 · 08/09/2015, 08:45 AM

Okay cool . I won't have much SPS I don't believe . Maybe just a couple . I guess instead of wondering if I can put them toward the top , might be better off going 8 bulb . Hopefully I can find one used here shortly . So if I do LPS , I'm guessing the 4 bulb is enough . But the colors and the brightness would be a lot better with the 8 bulb I'm thinking . Plus I'll want clams and anemones .

bucfan · 08/09/2015, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by drew930

Okay cool . I won't have much SPS I don't believe . Maybe just a couple . I guess instead of wondering if I can put them toward the top , might be better off going 8 bulb . Hopefully I can find one used here shortly . So if I do LPS , I'm guessing the 4 bulb is enough . But the colors and the brightness would be a lot better with the 8 bulb I'm thinking . Plus I'll want clams and anemones .

8 bulbs gives you a lot more options with different bulb combos. For LPS 4 bulbs should be good.

horseplay · 08/09/2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bucfan

8 bulbs gives you a lot more options with different bulb combos. For LPS 4 bulbs should be good.

Agreed on options. 8 bulbs will be better trade off is cost. But rest assured 4 bulbs will work also. I have no problem growing sps anywhere in the tank. In fact I find sps is quite adaptable to lighting levels. I have ssc growing at the surface (you can see the plug glued to the overflow) and at the bottom. Same amazing color and growth rate. Out of the 30 or so species I have kept only one or two could use more light.

horseplay · 08/09/2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by drew930

Okay cool . I won't have much SPS I don't believe . Maybe just a couple . I guess instead of wondering if I can put them toward the top , might be better off going 8 bulb . Hopefully I can find one used here shortly . So if I do LPS , I'm guessing the 4 bulb is enough . But the colors and the brightness would be a lot better with the 8 bulb I'm thinking . Plus I'll want clams and anemones .

Sps is very additive. I started with a mixed tank now I only have sps and a few pieces of zoas. Never say never

bucfan · 08/09/2015, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by horseplay

sps is very additive. I started with a mixed tank now i only have sps and a few pieces of zoas. Never say never

+1

westreef · 08/09/2015, 12:43 PM

I had a matured mixed reef a month back. Now I am doing a revamp and have decided to only keep sps and a few chalice. I hope my 4 bulbs hybrid is good enough for sps. At the moment I have it ramped up to 64% with only 5 hrs peak time. So far so good -- fingers crossed. When it reaches to 73%, I shall measure the par values again.

drew930 · 08/09/2015, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseplay

Agreed on options. 8 bulbs will be better trade off is cost. But rest assured 4 bulbs will work also. I have no problem growing sps anywhere in the tank. In fact I find sps is quite adaptable to lighting levels. I have ssc growing at the surface (you can see the plug glued to the overflow) and at the bottom. Same amazing color and growth rate. Out of the 30 or so species I have kept only one or two could use more light.

Originally was going to go sunpower or powermodule with add reef brite in a canopy , but figured might as well get it all one. I wish everyone agreed that a 4 bulb would work on a 120 lol I'm leaning toward 8 bulb unless I run across a 4 bulb first . Then might try it out and if it don't work , add 2 Retrofits .

If I do go with a 4 bulb, are the Leds bright enough where I would still have a lot of color ? Or does the T5s wash the LEDs out ?

wheelman76 · 08/09/2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by horseplay

Sps is very additive. I started with a mixed tank now I only have sps and a few pieces of zoas. Never say never

So true!!!

MadCityReefer · 08/11/2015, 10:11 PM

Jumping on the ATI LED Powermodule band wagon...got myself a 48" 3x75W LED & 8X54W T5 can't wait to see this thing in action!

bucfan · 08/12/2015, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MadCityReefer

Jumping on the ATI LED Powermodule band wagon...got myself a 48" 3x75W LED & 8X54W T5 can't wait to see this thing in action!

you will be pleased

drew930 · 08/12/2015, 06:55 AM

MadCityReefer,

What size tank is that going over ?

MadCityReefer · 08/12/2015, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by drew930

MadCityReefer,

What size tank is that going over ?

120gal Reef Savvy 48"L x 28"W x 22"H

08/08/2015, 03:28 PM	#2728
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	Hey guys I just hooked up my light. No instructions with it though. Can I find those on ATI's website? Also on my sunpower the fans ran 24/7... So far no fans have turned on yet. When do these fans cut on for this fixture? __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

08/08/2015, 04:22 PM	#2730
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	Sweet thanks __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

08/08/2015, 05:01 PM	#2731
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	Can you run that software on a MAC? It takes me to a website to buy this software called Parallels. Is that right or is this Windows only software? __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

08/08/2015, 06:48 PM	#2733
drew930 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 1,333	What would the ideal fixture be for a 120 (4x2x2) ? Mainly will have LPS but maybe a few SPS . Was thinking a 4x54 or 8x39 . 4x39 wouldn't be enough would it ? __________________ 150 in progress ...

08/08/2015, 06:57 PM	#2734
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	Even on my wife's PC it keeps taking me to that parallels website. Can someone send me the link for where I can program this light? Do you have to pay for parallels or something to be able to program the light or something? __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

08/08/2015, 12:02 PM	#2726
horseplay Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 399	36x4 will work very well for you

08/08/2015, 08:44 PM	#2736
horseplay Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 399	Many people have asked what size fixture to get. I have the 4T5 x 48" fixture over the 24"x48"x21"(h) tank and did the measurement using a Apogee par meter. The measurement is not scientific but to give a general idea of how strong the light level is. I measured several configurations but the one I present here is for 100% T5 + 50% LED. Note that LED is not 100% on all channels. The blues are close to 100% while the white and reds are minimum levels. So this is close to how the light is run in real life. I run 60% LED currently. The light is hung 10" off the water surface. First of all if you have a 36" tank you should get a 36" fixture. The T5 level drop off is very quick at the ends. So in effect you will lose about 2 to 3 inches at each end. Plus 2 clusters is much better than 1. The middle of the tank par levels are 450-550 (surface), 350-410 (10" from surface), 250 (20" from surface). One thing to note is that the light level at bottom is pretty even. So the light is covering the tank well. I normally have the SPS mounted at least 3" off the bottom so I should have enough light. The experience from the last 6 months or so have confirmed this. The only place where the light is not enough is close to the surface in the front and back. This is because the light is cone shaped. 8 bulb fixture should remediate this problem. Now you can decide base on your need. For reference this is a picture of the tank. I completely redid the rock work two weeks ago so the tank is bare but I am seeing amazing colors under the light (of course the color cannot be pictured). Last edited by horseplay; 08/08/2015 at 08:52 PM.

08/09/2015, 08:29 AM	#2737
drew930 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 1,333	So a 4x54 would be enough to penetrate a 120, enough for even SPS ? Looks like you have some and it's just 3-4" taller than yours ... Just curious . I won't be able to buy one new . I'll have to see one come up used . I like the fact of 8 bulb having more color combos , but will more expensive . If I can swing the 4 bulb I'm all for it . Having 3 clusters of LEDs can probably help my color options a lot ? Is it fair to say that the 4 bulb with 3 clusters still have a lot of color options ? Maybe run a blue , pink, daytime and one other , then have leds to dial in the desired color ? __________________ 150 in progress ...

08/09/2015, 08:45 AM	#2739
drew930 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 1,333	Okay cool . I won't have much SPS I don't believe . Maybe just a couple . I guess instead of wondering if I can put them toward the top , might be better off going 8 bulb . Hopefully I can find one used here shortly . So if I do LPS , I'm guessing the 4 bulb is enough . But the colors and the brightness would be a lot better with the 8 bulb I'm thinking . Plus I'll want clams and anemones . __________________ 150 in progress ...

08/09/2015, 12:43 PM	#2744
westreef Lost as usual Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Really California? Posts: 846	I had a matured mixed reef a month back. Now I am doing a revamp and have decided to only keep sps and a few chalice. I hope my 4 bulbs hybrid is good enough for sps. At the moment I have it ramped up to 64% with only 5 hrs peak time. So far so good -- fingers crossed. When it reaches to 73%, I shall measure the par values again. __________________ Bernie 75g, ATI 4x58wT5 LED Hybrid Powermodule, AquaMaxx ConeS 1, 2xMP40wES, RKL controller, Tunze Osmolator

08/11/2015, 10:11 PM	#2747
MadCityReefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Madison Wisconsin Posts: 23	Jumping on the ATI LED Powermodule band wagon...got myself a 48" 3x75W LED & 8X54W T5 can't wait to see this thing in action!

08/12/2015, 06:55 AM	#2749
drew930 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 1,333	MadCityReefer, What size tank is that going over ? __________________ 150 in progress ...