Tragedy Strikes again...

Richocet83 · 04/23/2012, 09:03 PM

After I lost my Yellow Multi-Band Pipe back in January I found a pair of Dragon Face Pipes that looked to be in great health and very active at my LFS. I purchased the two and set them up in my 75 gal mixed reef (previously home to the multi-band) and all seemed well. Even as I write this I'm amazed at what I found when I got home from work.... Both animals were crawling around the tank this morning, scouring the rockwork looking for pods. Then, I got home from work and the larger of the two was belly up on the sand....

I have no idea what happened in the 6 or so hours I was gone but the body appeared healthy when I removed it (no hermits had gotten to it yet), he didn't appear emaciated, no trauma.... the only thing out of the normal were his colors, they were more intense once he was dead then I had ever seen while he was alive.

Fortunately, working in the veterinary field has its benefits and I will be checking in with our resident pathologist tomorrow to see if there is any chance of performing a necropsy on this little guy (despite his diminutive size). So, for now he is chilling in my refrigerator. If we are able to get a COD I will post the results.

sea_horses · 05/02/2012, 06:27 AM

sorry to hear (read) that

small alien · 05/03/2012, 09:34 AM

They're bodies are covered in bony plates. You wouldn't see them as emaciated even if they were starving. Did you ever see them take prepared foods?

I've read dragon faces are short lived fwiw.

Richocet83 · 05/07/2012, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by small alien

They're bodies are covered in bony plates. You wouldn't see them as emaciated even if they were starving. Did you ever see them take prepared foods?

I've read dragon faces are short lived fwiw.

No, unfortunately neither of them were/are feeding on anything prepared. My sump/fuge have done a pretty good job of maintaining pods and I'm adding bottles of Tigriopus every 3-4 weeks (although I don't think they're eating any of the Tigriopus since they always end up in the water and not in the rocks).

Update from pathologist, on gross exam there was no body fat or liver fat indicating poor/absent appetite. Will know more by the end of this week once tissue samples are checked.

small alien · 05/08/2012, 09:01 AM

Interesting. Keep us posted.

novahobbies · 05/08/2012, 12:34 PM

I'm very sorry to hear this. From what I have read, DF's are often very difficult to keep long in captivity, and many will never convert to frozen. I'd like to try my hand at them some day, but I'm not sure if I'm up to the task. Very sorry you lost yours....

WeBrokr · 05/14/2012, 01:51 PM

Strange. Please keep us posted on the pathologist. I have lost several horses in the past so I know the feeling.

Richocet83 · 05/15/2012, 02:17 PM

Final update from pathologist.... Pipefish was a female (not sure if this helps with future sexing but it was the larger of the two DF pipes in my reef). She found some inflammation (granuloma) in the intestines, which is fairly common in the marine fish she has looked at in the past, so her COD is still undetermined but leaning towards starvation/inappetance of unknown reason(s). Thanks all!

04/23/2012, 09:03 PM	#1
Richocet83 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 88	Tragedy Strikes again... After I lost my Yellow Multi-Band Pipe back in January I found a pair of Dragon Face Pipes that looked to be in great health and very active at my LFS. I purchased the two and set them up in my 75 gal mixed reef (previously home to the multi-band) and all seemed well. Even as I write this I'm amazed at what I found when I got home from work.... Both animals were crawling around the tank this morning, scouring the rockwork looking for pods. Then, I got home from work and the larger of the two was belly up on the sand.... I have no idea what happened in the 6 or so hours I was gone but the body appeared healthy when I removed it (no hermits had gotten to it yet), he didn't appear emaciated, no trauma.... the only thing out of the normal were his colors, they were more intense once he was dead then I had ever seen while he was alive. Fortunately, working in the veterinary field has its benefits and I will be checking in with our resident pathologist tomorrow to see if there is any chance of performing a necropsy on this little guy (despite his diminutive size). So, for now he is chilling in my refrigerator. If we are able to get a COD I will post the results. __________________ Life's a garden, dig it! 75gal AGA RR mixed reef - 20gal sump w/ ReefDynamics Skimmer, TLF150 Reactor w/ NPX BioPellets, TLF150 Reactor w/ Carbon/GFO - Mag9.5 return, Koralia 1050, Tunze 6025 (~2500GPH total flow), 4x54w T5 (Geisemann) Last edited by Richocet83; 04/23/2012 at 09:48 PM.

05/03/2012, 09:34 AM	#3
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: School of Aquatic and Fishery Science, University of Washington Posts: 3,478	They're bodies are covered in bony plates. You wouldn't see them as emaciated even if they were starving. Did you ever see them take prepared foods? I've read dragon faces are short lived fwiw. __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. M/F/F OSFF, M/F Leopards, F Scooter, Nekid Clowns, Hector's Goby, Green and Yellow Clown Gobies, Priolepis sp, M/F Matted File, Banded and Bluestripe Pipes, Tailspot Blenny, Firefish, Canary Wrasse, Royal G., Abrolhos Jaw, Papua Toby.

05/08/2012, 09:01 AM	#5
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: School of Aquatic and Fishery Science, University of Washington Posts: 3,478	Interesting. Keep us posted. __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. M/F/F OSFF, M/F Leopards, F Scooter, Nekid Clowns, Hector's Goby, Green and Yellow Clown Gobies, Priolepis sp, M/F Matted File, Banded and Bluestripe Pipes, Tailspot Blenny, Firefish, Canary Wrasse, Royal G., Abrolhos Jaw, Papua Toby.

05/15/2012, 02:17 PM	#8
Richocet83 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 88	Final update from pathologist.... Pipefish was a female (not sure if this helps with future sexing but it was the larger of the two DF pipes in my reef). She found some inflammation (granuloma) in the intestines, which is fairly common in the marine fish she has looked at in the past, so her COD is still undetermined but leaning towards starvation/inappetance of unknown reason(s). Thanks all! __________________ Life's a garden, dig it! 75gal AGA RR mixed reef - 20gal sump w/ ReefDynamics Skimmer, TLF150 Reactor w/ NPX BioPellets, TLF150 Reactor w/ Carbon/GFO - Mag9.5 return, Koralia 1050, Tunze 6025 (~2500GPH total flow), 4x54w T5 (Geisemann)

05/02/2012, 06:27 AM	#2
sea_horses Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 18	sorry to hear (read) that

05/08/2012, 12:34 PM	#6
novahobbies Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Deerfield Beach Posts: 255	I'm very sorry to hear this. From what I have read, DF's are often very difficult to keep long in captivity, and many will never convert to frozen. I'd like to try my hand at them some day, but I'm not sure if I'm up to the task. Very sorry you lost yours....

05/14/2012, 01:51 PM	#7
WeBrokr Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 9	Strange. Please keep us posted on the pathologist. I have lost several horses in the past so I know the feeling.