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Unread 05/02/2012, 11:33 AM   #2351
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Cycling my 75g tank (and ~12g sump) - plan on being a mixed reef with soft corals possibly LPS. I doubt we will be adding SPS. Will probably be adding a Clean up crew first, then some sort of coral like a zoa or mushroom, then considering the following fish:

Dwarf Half Black Angel
Dwarf Bicolor Angel
Yellow or Pink Spotted Watchman Goby
Six Line Wrasse
Couple of Clown Fish
Possibly a couple of Firefish as well

I know there is a chance the angel will nip at corals and I'm fine with that.


After talking with the fiance - made a few changes:
1. Bangaii Cardinal fish (instead of firefish) x2
2. Six Line Wrasse
3. Flame Hawk fish
4. Pink Spotted Goby
5. Bicolor Angel
6. Flame Angel
7. Ocellaris Clown x 2
8. Some sort of pistol shrimp
9. Bicolor Blenny Possible.

Trying to stick to small fish between 3" and 6" max.



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After talking with the fiance - made a few changes:
1. Bangaii Cardinal fish (instead of firefish) x2 must be a male + female for two
2. Six Line Wrasse aggressive
3. Flame Hawk fish
4. Pink Spotted Goby
5. Bicolor Angel
6. Flame Angel
7. Ocellaris Clown x 2
8. Some sort of pistol shrimp
9. Bicolor Blenny Possible.

Trying to stick to small fish between 3" and 6" max.
As you know, angels may make meaty LPS problematical; no shrimp with a flame hawkfish


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Unread 05/02/2012, 05:10 PM   #2353
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As you know, angels may make meaty LPS problematical; no shrimp with a flame hawkfish
Do you think the six line would be aggressive towards the other fish in the list?


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Do you think the six line would be aggressive towards the other fish in the list?
That fish can be a big problem which many people have found out. Your fish list does not have other fish occupying his ecological niche but it is always possible he might be aggressive towards them. Going forward with additions, will even be more of a problem.


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Unread 05/03/2012, 12:08 AM   #2355
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Steve,
Thanks for your reply earlier. It appears some of my choices would cause problems eventually (anthias and possibly the chromis). I've revised my list again, just curious about your opinion. Here's the original list:

1. *Black ocellaris clownfish x 2
2. *Yellowheaded jawfish x 4
3. *Yellow clown goby x 3
4. *Green chomis x 3
5. *Lyretail anthias x 3
6. *Orchid dottyback x 1

I have built screen lids for the tank with the jawfish in mind. I mentioned I was interested in the anthias, but it seems by your response that I should save those for a future larger tank. I am looking for some colorful, interesting fish that fit in with a peaceful community reef tank setup. What about this stock list:

1. *Black ocellaris clownfish x 2
2. *Yellowheaded jawfish x 4
3. *Yellow clown goby x 3
4. *Blue reef chomis x 3-4
5. *Orange-lined cardinalfish x 3-4
6. *Orchid dottyback x 1

As for the blue reef chromis and the orange-lined cardinalfish, I am not totally sure of the numbers. Liveaquaria made it seem both species would work well in small groups, but I figured I'd ask. Also, is there any temperment differences between the orchid dottyback and a black cap basslet? Would the black cap basslet be a better choice in a peaceful community tank? As always, thank you for your input, I can only imagine the issues I'd have without your suggestions.
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Steve,
Thanks for your reply earlier. It appears some of my choices would cause problems eventually (anthias and possibly the chromis). I've revised my list again, just curious about your opinion. Here's the original list:

1. *Black ocellaris clownfish x 2
2. *Yellowheaded jawfish x 4
3. *Yellow clown goby x 3
4. *Green chomis x 3
5. *Lyretail anthias x 3
6. *Orchid dottyback x 1

I have built screen lids for the tank with the jawfish in mind. I mentioned I was interested in the anthias, but it seems by your response that I should save those for a future larger tank. I am looking for some colorful, interesting fish that fit in with a peaceful community reef tank setup. What about this stock list:

1. *Black ocellaris clownfish x 2
2. *Yellowheaded jawfish x 4
3. *Yellow clown goby x 3
4. *Blue reef chomis x 3-4
5. *Orange-lined cardinalfish x 3-4
6. *Orchid dottyback x 1

As for the blue reef chromis and the orange-lined cardinalfish, I am not totally sure of the numbers. Liveaquaria made it seem both species would work well in small groups, but I figured I'd ask. Also, is there any temperment differences between the orchid dottyback and a black cap basslet? Would the black cap basslet be a better choice in a peaceful community tank? As always, thank you for your input, I can only imagine the issues I'd have without your suggestions.
Scott
Well, you are more likely to be successful with carberryi or resplendent anthias than with chromis as chromis believe in survival only of the strongest one. But chromis and anthias is not a good combination especially lyretail as they tend to be more aggressive. Both orchid dottybacks and black cap basslets are semi aggressive but probably not towards the fish you are planning; stick with the dottyback but add it last . The cardinals you chose are excellent I would suggest 5 of them


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Unread 05/03/2012, 09:52 AM   #2357
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Goby/Pistol Shrimp

Hey everyone,

I have a 55 gallon reef tank with 2 percula clowns and a yellow tang who are BFFs. I have an urchin, skunk cleaner shrimp, arrow crab, a bunch of hermit crabs and two snails. I just saw the symbiotic relationship between the pistol shrimp and gobies and I want one. Good or bad idea? Do they pair up on their own just like that??? I also really want a green or red mandarin dragonet. But do they really spend all day hiding?

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Current Tank Info: 55 gallon: 2 perculas, 1 yellow tang, 1 cleaner shrimp, 1 arrow crab, mushroom corals (ricordea, hairy, blue, purple, green, & red), pulsing xenias, hermit crabs, 1 turbo snail, 2 red candy montipora caps, and a bunch of feather dusters.
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Hey everyone,

I have a 55 gallon reef tank with 2 percula clowns and a yellow tang who are BFFs. I have an urchin, skunk cleaner shrimp, arrow crab, a bunch of hermit crabs and two snails. I just saw the symbiotic relationship between the pistol shrimp and gobies and I want one. Good or bad idea? Do they pair up on their own just like that??? I also really want a green or red mandarin dragonet. But do they really spend all day hiding?

Thanks!
Assuming you get shrimp gobies and shrimp which will associate, they will pair up automatically. Your tank will not really support a mandarin. You need a 75 gallon tank for that. By the way, arrow crabs will take fish.


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Unread 05/03/2012, 11:14 AM   #2359
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Thanks! Which goby/pistol shrimp pair works best?


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Unread 05/03/2012, 12:25 PM   #2360
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Thanks! Which goby/pistol shrimp pair works best?
Well there is no best. People normally purchase alpheus randall pistol shrimp (you can have a pair if you choose) and unless you choose a shrimp goby that is esoteric and requires a special shrimp (they are pretty expensive) you will be fine. There are, however, shrimp which will not associate (such as alpheus soror) and those will not work.


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Unread 05/03/2012, 02:02 PM   #2361
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I want to add a Copperband Butterflyfish – both to help with an emerging aphasia issue and to add some color to the tank.

Here’s what I have:

Display: 50 gallon long
-50-60+ lbs live rock
- 40-50lbs substriaght (depth varies from 2 – 4” deep)
- Various LPS (trumpets, open brain, Kenya tree ect..)
- A few small colonies of Zoas
- A couple of smallish frags of misc SPS

Sump – 15 gallon with Skimmer
Fuge – 15 gallon with 4in deep sand bed, rock and Cheato and a healthy pod population


Livestock
Scooter Blenny
Yellow Watchman with large Tiger Pistol (wasn’t so big when I got him)
Royal Grama

Large(ish) Emerald Crab - his cap is about 1.5” across
A small(ish) black crab & white that hitchhiked in on a coral – been in there for over a month and so far peaceful

I know the 50 Gallon is pretty much near the bottom end of the tank size for this type of fish so I wanted to get some opinions. The one I have my eye on is still pretty young an so on the small size – say around 2-2.5 inches

EDIT - not sure if it helps, but here's pic of the tank



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I want to add a Copperband Butterflyfish – both to help with an emerging aphasia issue and to add some color to the tank.

Please note well that these are difficult fish, they may or may not eat at all in captivity so be SURE you see it eat. Also, they may or may not be reef safe, especially to LPS. And finally, they may or may not eat aiptasia.

Here’s what I have:

Display: 50 gallon long
-50-60+ lbs live rock
- 40-50lbs substriaght (depth varies from 2 – 4” deep)
- Various LPS (trumpets, open brain, Kenya tree ect..)
- A few small colonies of Zoas
- A couple of smallish frags of misc SPS

Sump – 15 gallon with Skimmer
Fuge – 15 gallon with 4in deep sand bed, rock and Cheato and a healthy pod population


Livestock
Scooter Blenny
Yellow Watchman with large Tiger Pistol (wasn’t so big when I got him)
Royal Grama

Large(ish) Emerald Crab - his cap is about 1.5” across

Careful, they can take fish

A small(ish) black crab & white that hitchhiked in on a coral – been in there for over a month and so far peaceful

I personally trust no crabs

I know the 50 Gallon is pretty much near the bottom end of the tank size for this type of fish so I wanted to get some opinions. The one I have my eye on is still pretty young an so on the small size – say around 2-2.5 inches



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Unread 05/03/2012, 04:05 PM   #2363
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Thanks for the feedback Steve.

I will definitely make sure to ask to see him eat. My LFS, in general, trains all their fish to eat/except mysis where appropriate, so hopefully that helps.

And yes, Ive read that they can be a sort of "luck of the draw" when it comes to whether or not they will go after aphasia and leave the LPS alone.


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I curently have five fishes in a 300 gallon tank. They are Powder Blue, Yellow Tang, Sailfin Tang and two Chromis. This tank is 99 percent SPS frags. I have a colony and few frags of War coral that I will be getting rid of. I would love to to put in a Blue Face Angel. I will be checking one out tomorrow. Don't really know what other fish I would purchase in the future, but it would be revolved around the Blue Face. Will the other fishes be OK with the Blue Face? The tangs are 5-6 inches and the Blue Face is 5 inches.

I know the Blue Face are hit or miss with sps but I'm willing to try if its not a problem with the other fish.

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I curently have five fishes in a 300 gallon tank. They are Powder Blue, Yellow Tang, Sailfin Tang and two Chromis. This tank is 99 percent SPS frags. I have a colony and few frags of War coral that I will be getting rid of. I would love to to put in a Blue Face Angel. I will be checking one out tomorrow. Don't really know what other fish I would purchase in the future, but it would be revolved around the Blue Face. Will the other fishes be OK with the Blue Face? The tangs are 5-6 inches and the Blue Face is 5 inches.

I know the Blue Face are hit or miss with sps but I'm willing to try if its not a problem with the other fish.

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It is possible the large tangs will be upset, large tangs often resent additions. Try using an acclimation box.


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Unread 05/03/2012, 08:24 PM   #2366
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75 gallon reef tank. My list .

2 percula clown fish

1 or 2 banggia cardinal fish

1 or 2 royal gramma

1 catalina goby

1 fire fish goby

2 rainbow goby

blue stripe neon goby

striped fang blenny or any blenny that would be a welcome addition to my tank, I like every blenny I have come across name two that can be together and ill be happy.


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75 gallon reef tank. My list .

2 percula clown fish

1 or 2 banggia cardinal fish If two, must be a male plus female

1 or 2 royal gramma I am not sure you can do two in your sized tank

1 catalina goby requires a cool water tank, not suitable for normal aquaria

1 fire fish goby

2 rainbow goby I have never kept this fish, what is the real name?

blue stripe neon goby

striped fang blenny or any blenny that would be a welcome addition to my tank, I like every blenny I have come across name two that can be together and ill be happy.
bioload is fine, note comments above


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Gunnelichthys curiosus


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Oh I forgot striped fang blenny


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Ah yes. Two of those will do fine


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That will be fine as well. Those choices are unusual.


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120 Gallon Mixed Reef (48x24x24)

Flame Angelfish
Yellow Tang
Blue Hippo Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Ocellaris Clownfish x2 (male+female)
Blue/Green Reef Chromis x3
Carberryi Anthias x3
Banggai Cardinal x2 (male+female)
Foxface Lo
Diamond Watchman Goby or Yellowhead Jawfish?
Dragonface Pipefish x2 (male+female) (long down the road)
Green Mandarin (long down the road)

Maybes:
Christmas Wrasse (found slim to none info)
Porcupine Puffer (mixed reviews)
Copperband Butterflyfish (mixed reviews)
Black Nox Angelfish (found slim to none info)

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120 Gallon Mixed Reef (48x24x24)

Flame Angelfish Not reef safe especially towards meaty LPS
Yellow Tang If this is the only tang, you will be ok, but add it last
Blue Hippo Tang Your tank is simply not large enough
Powder Blue Tang If this is the only tang, you will be ok, but add it last but your tank is not large enough for two tangs
Ocellaris Clownfish x2 (male+female)
Blue/Green Reef Chromis x3 will become only one, I would advise not combining with anthias
Carberryi Anthias x3 I would advise not combinining with chromis
Banggai Cardinal x2 (male+female)
Foxface Lo With the number of grazers already in the tank, this could be a problem
Diamond Watchman Goby or Yellowhead Jawfish?
Dragonface Pipefish x2 (male+female) (long down the road)
Green Mandarin (long down the road) In your sized tank I would not advise have pipefish and a mandarin as the all eat copepods

Maybes: well you already have a lot of fish, and the ones below would be too much; possible exception would be the Christmas Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse (found slim to none info)
Porcupine Puffer (mixed reviews)
Copperband Butterflyfish (mixed reviews)
Black Nox Angelfish (found slim to none info)

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Ok thank you, also, do you recomend a yellowhead jawfish or a diamond watchman goby?


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Ok thank you, also, do you recomend a yellowhead jawfish or a diamond watchman goby?
Behaviorally both are comparable as far as compatibility.. If it were me, I would get the jawfish (perhaps two) because they are so incredibly entertaining.


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