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Unread 10/19/2012, 04:50 AM   #351
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I'm not THAT old!!! LOL!!!

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^This made me LOL! Reminded me of Travis' poster... HEEHEEHEE.


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Unread 10/19/2012, 04:54 AM   #352
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Would you say it's a Zoanthus sp. or a Palythoa sp.?
I would think it's a Zoanthus sp.

Grandis.
Also, you're very knowledgeable on the zoa species! I recently purchased from Brian of BlueWaterTropicals and he corrected me when I referred my rock of zoa sp. as palys. Looks like there's an interesting history going on here and I'd love to know a bit more if you could share! The majority of this hobby call small zoa sp zoas, everything else that's larger a paly, and everything tiny a micro zoa.

"For the record, their not "Palys", lol. Some(one) about 7yrs ago gave a fancy name to a polyp and called it "Paly" because they didnt know any better and it snow balled from there. They are actually Zoanthus Gigantus and not a Palythoa. The way you can tell is by the skirt when distiguishing from Paly vs Zoa. Nuclear Greens and Purple Deaths and others similar to them are Protopalythoas..."

Being a zoa collector, it would be great if I could at least call them by their proper name.


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Unread 10/20/2012, 01:41 AM   #353
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^This made me LOL! Reminded me of Travis' poster... HEEHEEHEE.
You've got it!!
I just loved that joke! I still LOL when I see that!!
I LOL by myself and even do that when I'm tired or sad for some reason!!
I want to meet them one day!
I would never think that they would see me that way and that I would be so significant to the point. LOL!!!
I think to enjoy that type of joke is part of the hobby too.
Hope they would know I won't hate anyone just because I wouldn't agree with something they do or believe.

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Unread 10/20/2012, 03:28 AM   #354
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Also, you're very knowledgeable on the zoa species! I recently purchased from Brian of BlueWaterTropicals and he corrected me when I referred my rock of zoa sp. as palys. Looks like there's an interesting history going on here and I'd love to know a bit more if you could share! The majority of this hobby call small zoa sp zoas, everything else that's larger a paly, and everything tiny a micro zoa.

I don't really think I'm THAT knowledgeable on zoas' species!!! LOL!! It's really hard to tell them apart and put the right (scientific) names on them. I would love to know thought! It's gonna be hard to take that one as a compliment, sorry! LOL! There are many others here that would know a lot more about the zoas than I!!

Yes, I think the majority of the people tend to identify them wrongly and that could be in part because of the cartoon names sometimes followed by the label "paly" or "zoa" on the websites/forums...

We know there is Zoanthus gigantus and that some people call them "palys" and/or PEs. The distinctive marks of the PEs (People Eaters), by many, are their full size, the green mouth and the green marks when the polyps are closed. PEs are Zoanthus gigantus, yes, not "palys".

Actually Zoanthus spp. are called "zoas" by many.
Now, zoanthids, which means Zoanthus spp., Palythoa spp., Protopalythoa spp., etc... are also called" zoas" by many.
So one could say: "All my zoas are doing great!" meaning all the Palythoa spp., Protopalythoa spp. and Zoanthus spp. he/she is keeping. Or meaning all the Zoanthus spp. alone!!! Confusing!!
Episoanthus spp., Parazoanthus spp. and others are rarely found for sale, but they are also "zoas" (zoanthids).
Therefore "zoa" is a nickname for Zoanthus spp. or zoanthids in general.
When people in the hobby say "Palys" they are normally referring to Palythoa spp. or Protopalythoa spp., or something they believe to be Palythoa spp. or Protopalythoa spp.
The smaller species of zoanthids are probably all Zoanthus sp., yes.


"For the record, their not "Palys", lol. Some(one) about 7yrs ago gave a fancy name to a polyp and called it "Paly" because they didnt know any better and it snow balled from there. They are actually Zoanthus Gigantus and not a Palythoa. The way you can tell is by the skirt when distiguishing from Paly vs Zoa. Nuclear Greens and Purple Deaths and others similar to them are Protopalythoas..."

I agree with the statement above, generally speaking. I wouldn't agree that the skirt alone could be the ultimate way to distinguish them apart at all times, specially for the beginner hobbyist. I would say that most times the skirts on the Protopalythoa spp. are thiner and shorter than in Zoanthus gigantus, comparing samples from the wild. Some environmental influences, and even in our tanks, can change the way skits look too, so... I still see other characteristics to be more important and mainly easier to teach who doesn't know them apart (mentioned above).
Many could get confused with the cartoon names too and call "nuclear greens" other type of zoanthids, but by the pictures we see online they are most of the time are a green Palythoa sp., perhaps P. grandis IMO...


Being a zoa collector, it would be great if I could at least call them by their proper name.
Hope this helps a bit.
Have fun! Enjoy your zoas!
Grandis.




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Unread 10/20/2012, 12:17 PM   #355
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Here's some that are coloring up really nice, no idea what they're called but they're some of the brightest in my tank




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Unread 10/20/2012, 12:46 PM   #356
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Great thread love the zoas


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Unread 10/27/2012, 11:47 PM   #357
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Is there a common name for these beauties?


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Unread 10/28/2012, 12:06 AM   #358
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Wow. those are sweet!
I dont care what they are called, I want some of those!


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Unread 10/28/2012, 01:44 AM   #359
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Is there a common name for these beauties?
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Unread 10/28/2012, 07:51 AM   #360
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Unread 10/28/2012, 09:01 AM   #361
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Unread 10/29/2012, 09:18 AM   #362
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Unread 10/29/2012, 11:15 AM   #363
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I can post a pic here can't pic one and only have an iPhone so can't zoom in well so these are the few I have with some blue enhancing lights.


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Unread 10/29/2012, 12:38 PM   #364
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You can see it best in the last picture, every tentacle on this colony is split in two.








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Unread 06/06/2015, 05:52 PM   #366
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Just really getting into zoanthids, my best so far is my little frag of sunnyd =)


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Unread 06/21/2015, 04:38 PM   #367
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Unread 06/22/2015, 01:37 PM   #368
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Unread 07/03/2015, 02:43 PM   #369
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2 of my favorites in my pico right now toucans and sunny d's


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Unread 07/06/2015, 03:55 PM   #371
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Those are nice, if like to get my hands on some of those.. Time to start looking


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Unread 07/09/2015, 06:47 AM   #372
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Some very awesome colors in here. Only thing is, I am so much more impressed with the pictures of colonies. Seems that most of those crazy colored ones are always shown as just two or three polyps.


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heres my rastas. I have these and some rainbow sakuras


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Some of those are wicked cool!!!


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