180g Starphire A.G.E on its way! - Page 3

tbone28 · 08/11/2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by RoBolton
UV Curing Adhesive Resins. A.G.E did not invent this process or the product!!!

You're correct, A.G.E did not invent this - I did not say that. Tom (from A.G.E) told me that this process was developed in the 70's. Because of the higher costs involved, this process never became popular. He has chosen not to disclose the "secret".

reef / aholic · 08/11/2007, 02:42 PM

The secret is out!!!

poppin_fresh · 08/11/2007, 07:11 PM

UV curable products are everywhere from sealants to paints, printing inks and many other products. They are the future for many industries that currently rely on petroleum based, high VOC solvents and products.

I give AGE kudos if they are using UV curable materials. Not only is the equipment highly expensive, but the UV curable materials cost 2x to 3X+ as much as solvent based products. Its a serious investment for a small company.

tbone28 · 08/11/2007, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by poppin_fresh
UV curable products are everywhere from sealants to paints, printing inks and many other products. They are the future for many industries that currently rely on petroleum based, high VOC solvents and products.

I give AGE kudos if they are using UV curable materials. Not only is the equipment highly expensive, but the UV curable materials cost 2x to 3X+ as much as solvent based products. Its a serious investment for a small company.

Tom did mention that one reason his tanks cost more than other custom tanks is because of the huge investment in equipment.

reef / aholic · 08/12/2007, 09:03 PM

CNC Machine cost $$$$$$$

tbone28 · 08/13/2007, 09:43 AM

Got THE call from Greg@Reefgeek late Friday afternoon that my ATI Powermodules have arrived! They are going to ship today, and should have them by Wednesday! Woo Hoo! I've been waiting almost 5 months for these fixtures. Will post pics when they come in!

Waxxiemann · 08/13/2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RoBolton
UV Curing Adhesive Resins. A.G.E did not invent this process or the product!!!

Sounds high tech.

cbui2 · 08/16/2007, 12:03 AM

OMG that kitchen is the future

and great planning. i noticed your furniture are still wrap, when do you expect to moved in? this setup is very clean

tbone28 · 08/16/2007, 01:50 AM

Thanks for your complement! We're moved in, but not quite settled yet. We're trying to get some of the dirty remodelling completed before we unwrap our furniture. Our countertops are going in today, backsplash next Monday.

My ATI Powermodules came in!!

They are NICE, and well made

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invincible569 · 08/16/2007, 04:13 AM

Nice lights! Havent seen those in the U.S.

tbone28 · 08/16/2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by invincible569
Nice lights! Havent seen those in the U.S.

Thanks! Reefgeek is the only US distributor, and they're just starting to trickle into his store! I've been on the pre-order list since April.

I had halides/actinics/chiller on my last tank. I wanted to save some on my electrical bills this time around, and so decided on the T5-only tank. With the Powermoduls, I can still keep SPS w/o need for halides/chiller.

danskim · 08/16/2007, 03:13 PM

Very cool tbone28.
I'm going with the powermoduls too. I think 2 x 48 or 48 and 36.

Waxxiemann · 08/16/2007, 05:36 PM

tbone, it's looking awesome. I love the powermodules as well, they are really nice. I am looking forward to seeing them in action.

You went with 2x36" 8 bulbs is that correct? Nice choice.

cbui2 · 08/16/2007, 10:08 PM

Christmas already, tbone28 those are some high tech fixtures. how will the fixtures be mounted?

tbone28 · 08/16/2007, 10:27 PM

Waxxie -

Thanks! Yup, went with (2) of the 8x39 watters. I've got 6' of coverage left-to-right on a 6' tank, and 17" coverage front-to-back on a 24" deep tank, which should be fine because I don't plan on stacking rock on the back/front wall of the tank

cbui -

Christmas indeed! Actually, it was not a hard sell to my wife. We had halides last time, a chiller, and a huge electricty bill. I told her the flourescents don't require a chiller!

The lights are going to be screwed into the 2x4's

cbui2 · 08/16/2007, 10:31 PM

always good to trade with wife, how many circuits will you have with all the equipments? i see two 20amps?

tbone28 · 08/17/2007, 01:56 PM

I only have (1) dedicated 20-amp circuit to the tank, which should be plenty. I think I"m drawing a total of 11amps from my whole set-up. As a backup, I'm going to plug one of my Tunzes into a separate cirucit (kitchen) - this is the receptacle on the left-hand side which you see in the pic. This 2nd circuit is "empty", as it controls the receptacles above the kitchen counter - I'll never have anything plugged into those receptacles.

Waxxiemann · 08/17/2007, 02:51 PM

It's pretty cool that now with t5's, low wattage powerheads and NW skimmers how much we can save in electricity. I think you should be fine with 20 amps... I'm not expert though =)

Waxxiemann · 08/20/2007, 04:08 PM

any updates, tbone?

danskim · 08/20/2007, 04:29 PM

Yes... let's see some updates!

Spleef · 08/20/2007, 06:13 PM

This setup w / kitchen is top notch. This so freaking clean!

Great Job!

tbone28 · 08/20/2007, 07:12 PM

Hi Guys, I do have an update. I added (4) more 2x4's in order to hang the lights. I also stained the wood frame around the tank and painted the wall behind the tank with some semi-gloss paint. The best update: I hung the lights this afternoon! Pics to come...

i2ik · 08/20/2007, 07:28 PM

Can't wait to see the result! Love those light, i have seen them in person, very well built but its also quite expensive!

I have to tell you that i am in love with your stand looks!
Looking foward to this fanstastic build!

tbone28 · 08/21/2007, 12:15 AM

Here are the pics of the fixtures installed. Lights look great. I love the color. The hardware is extremely easy to use. The fixture moves up/down quite easily. The fans are extremely quiet too!

Here, you can see the (4) additional 2x4's I added, to which the fixtures are hung. You can also see the solid, brown stain I painted onto the framing:

And for those of you following the "kitchen remodel thread", here's another with our countertops and backsplash

honda2sk · 08/21/2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by tbone28
LOL...Jetson's kitchen? Yes, we are into a more contemporary look.

lol more like the Brady Bunch kitchen....looks like a 70s throwback. looks like my kitchen in my old home, funny how he calls it contemporary...looks everything comes full circle!

08/11/2007, 07:11 PM	#53
poppin_fresh Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,982	UV curable products are everywhere from sealants to paints, printing inks and many other products. They are the future for many industries that currently rely on petroleum based, high VOC solvents and products. I give AGE kudos if they are using UV curable materials. Not only is the equipment highly expensive, but the UV curable materials cost 2x to 3X+ as much as solvent based products. Its a serious investment for a small company. __________________ PBITAWA! Current Tank Info: None now. Past- 180g w/ 100g basement sump and 20g 'fuge. H & S skimmer, T'5s & Tunze

08/16/2007, 12:03 AM	#58
cbui2 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 2,517	OMG that kitchen is the future and great planning. i noticed your furniture are still wrap, when do you expect to moved in? this setup is very clean __________________ Bart ********************* Current Tank Info: 600gal 96L x 48W x 30H 1"cell cast w/tons of equipments

08/16/2007, 03:13 PM	#62
danskim Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,639	Very cool tbone28. I'm going with the powermoduls too. I think 2 x 48 or 48 and 36. __________________ Dan The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. -Jacques Cousteau

08/16/2007, 05:36 PM	#63
Waxxiemann Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,364	tbone, it's looking awesome. I love the powermodules as well, they are really nice. I am looking forward to seeing them in action. You went with 2x36" 8 bulbs is that correct? Nice choice. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

08/16/2007, 10:08 PM	#64
cbui2 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 2,517	Christmas already, tbone28 those are some high tech fixtures. how will the fixtures be mounted? __________________ Bart ********************* Current Tank Info: 600gal 96L x 48W x 30H 1"cell cast w/tons of equipments

08/11/2007, 02:42 PM	#52
reef / aholic Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: houston \| texas Posts: 647	The secret is out!!!

08/12/2007, 09:03 PM	#55
reef / aholic Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: houston \| texas Posts: 647	CNC Machine cost $$$$$$$

08/13/2007, 09:43 AM	#56
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Got THE call from Greg@Reefgeek late Friday afternoon that my ATI Powermodules have arrived! They are going to ship today, and should have them by Wednesday! Woo Hoo! I've been waiting almost 5 months for these fixtures. Will post pics when they come in!

08/16/2007, 01:50 AM	#59
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Thanks for your complement! We're moved in, but not quite settled yet. We're trying to get some of the dirty remodelling completed before we unwrap our furniture. Our countertops are going in today, backsplash next Monday. My ATI Powermodules came in!! They are NICE, and well made

08/16/2007, 04:13 AM	#60
invincible569 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,715	Nice lights! Havent seen those in the U.S.

08/16/2007, 10:27 PM	#65
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Waxxie - Thanks! Yup, went with (2) of the 8x39 watters. I've got 6' of coverage left-to-right on a 6' tank, and 17" coverage front-to-back on a 24" deep tank, which should be fine because I don't plan on stacking rock on the back/front wall of the tank cbui - Christmas indeed! Actually, it was not a hard sell to my wife. We had halides last time, a chiller, and a huge electricty bill. I told her the flourescents don't require a chiller! The lights are going to be screwed into the 2x4's

08/16/2007, 10:31 PM	#66
cbui2 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 2,517	always good to trade with wife, how many circuits will you have with all the equipments? i see two 20amps? __________________ Bart ********************* Current Tank Info: 600gal 96L x 48W x 30H 1"cell cast w/tons of equipments

08/17/2007, 01:56 PM	#67
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	I only have (1) dedicated 20-amp circuit to the tank, which should be plenty. I think I"m drawing a total of 11amps from my whole set-up. As a backup, I'm going to plug one of my Tunzes into a separate cirucit (kitchen) - this is the receptacle on the left-hand side which you see in the pic. This 2nd circuit is "empty", as it controls the receptacles above the kitchen counter - I'll never have anything plugged into those receptacles.

08/17/2007, 02:51 PM	#68
Waxxiemann Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,364	It's pretty cool that now with t5's, low wattage powerheads and NW skimmers how much we can save in electricity. I think you should be fine with 20 amps... I'm not expert though =) __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

08/20/2007, 04:08 PM	#69
Waxxiemann Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,364	any updates, tbone? __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

08/20/2007, 04:29 PM	#70
danskim Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,639	Yes... let's see some updates! __________________ Dan The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. -Jacques Cousteau

08/20/2007, 06:13 PM	#71
Spleef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 50	This setup w / kitchen is top notch. This so freaking clean! Great Job!

08/20/2007, 07:12 PM	#72
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Hi Guys, I do have an update. I added (4) more 2x4's in order to hang the lights. I also stained the wood frame around the tank and painted the wall behind the tank with some semi-gloss paint. The best update: I hung the lights this afternoon! Pics to come...

08/20/2007, 07:28 PM	#73
i2ik Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal,Quebec,Canada Posts: 694	Can't wait to see the result! Love those light, i have seen them in person, very well built but its also quite expensive! I have to tell you that i am in love with your stand looks! Looking foward to this fanstastic build! __________________ Richard Current Tank Info: 600G system in the remaking, back to square one, learning in process!

08/21/2007, 12:15 AM	#74
tbone28 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,503	Here are the pics of the fixtures installed. Lights look great. I love the color. The hardware is extremely easy to use. The fixture moves up/down quite easily. The fans are extremely quiet too! Here, you can see the (4) additional 2x4's I added, to which the fixtures are hung. You can also see the solid, brown stain I painted onto the framing: And for those of you following the "kitchen remodel thread", here's another with our countertops and backsplash Last edited by tbone28; 08/21/2007 at 12:27 AM.