Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank) - Page 9

delphinus · 03/14/2010, 12:49 PM

Been watching this thread for a while. I am somewhat undecided on whether this is an epic build, or epic insanity. Perhaps a little bit of both! ... Enjoy the ride as you go with this, good luck. You have planned out in exquisite detail every imaginable facet, yet, and I suppose you realize this already, but there will always be surprises (both pleasant and unpleasant). My sense of wonderment here is in anticipation of what those surprises will play out to be, over time.

One caution: You should know that people who start out in reefing, end up thinking "Boy, I wish I had gone bigger right away" or start dreaming up their upgrades after 6 months or so.

I have not seen too many exceptions to this rule. So, um .. yah. Keep that upgrade box nearby at all times.

nineball · 03/14/2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dmb1977

very very impressive, so impressive i joined this site and subscribed

DNB, to say I am honoured would be sincere. Thank you and ReefCentral thanks you as well I'm sure. Welcome to our community.

Peter

nineball · 03/14/2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by delphinus

Been watching this thread for a while. I am somewhat undecided on whether this is an epic build, or epic insanity. Perhaps a little bit of both! ... Enjoy the ride as you go with this, good luck. You have planned out in exquisite detail every imaginable facet, yet, and I suppose you realize this already, but there will always be surprises (both pleasant and unpleasant). My sense of wonderment here is in anticipation of what those surprises will play out to be, over time.

One caution: You should know that people who start out in reefing, end up thinking "Boy, I wish I had gone bigger right away" or start dreaming up their upgrades after 6 months or so.

I have not seen too many exceptions to this rule. So, um .. yah. Keep that upgrade box nearby at all times.

Washrooms on the right, drugs on the left.........Keep the line moving please!!!I seem to recall this ticket was for the roller coaster at the outset but senility keeps me from remembering how long. more later.....welcome aboard.

Peter

Rascalson · 03/14/2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nineball

Perhaps we could hide a second RO/DI unit and storage tank under the stairs for one end of the tank......

Additional RO/DI unit..

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Originally Posted by nineball

I have enough other tanks planned that will provide for a long and uneventful life 'if they do their work'........

Other tanks....

Sounds like foretellings of additional large containers of salt water

the_rider · 03/14/2010, 06:09 PM

Wow !! A really nice build !

Thank you for sharing that with us and taking time to answer all the questions and document the process as well

Which RO/DI unit are you going to use ? Is it an industrial one ? It probably already bought but you could take a look into the Aquaticlife power, which has an electronic device to auto-flush, and tell you went the cartouches need to be change, and a booster pump. I think the unit with two membranes is running around 600 gpd.

I'm looking at your thread a couple of time a day in case there is an update

Alex B

salty55 · 03/14/2010, 07:14 PM

nineball · 03/14/2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rascalson

Additional RO/DI unit..

Other tanks....

Sounds like foretellings of additional large containers of salt water

yeah, but lets make that our secret ok??

don't tell anyone.

Peter

solareclisped · 03/14/2010, 07:31 PM

Well thanks for recommending Chingchai's thread. I just finished it and it was totally worth the read. It is absolutely amazing. I am sure if you are following his principles yours will be amazing also and I cant wait to see more. I will be around.

nineball · 03/14/2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_rider

Wow !! A really nice build !

Thank you for sharing that with us and taking time to answer all the questions and document the process as well

Which RO/DI unit are you going to use ? Is it an industrial one ? It probably already bought but you could take a look into the Aquaticlife power, which has an electronic device to auto-flush, and tell you went the cartouches need to be change, and a booster pump. I think the unit with two membranes is running around 600 gpd.

I'm looking at your thread a couple of time a day in case there is an update

Alex B

Thanks Alex, The RO/DI archetecture is still in debate. There are two units currently planned that produce 75gpd for a total of 150. They are split into two units one for sw production and one for top off. However, I think I am severely underpowered for the inevitable peak requirements so a commercial unit is probably in my future. Thanks for the suggestion, I will look into it.

Peter

Its good to have La Belle Province represented!

nineball · 03/14/2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by solareclisped

Well thanks for recommending Chingchai's thread. I just finished it and it was totally worth the read. It is absolutely amazing. I am sure if you are following his principles yours will be amazing also and I cant wait to see more. I will be around.

Thank you for taking the time to do that. It was the most incredible experience for me to follow it every day while it was happening......I still do. I'm hoping others do as well because it will be easier to identify the other grand masters when its time to do so. I also recommend David Saxby's journey as well. There is also a number of fascinating interviews on utube with David well worth seeing if you get a chance. Finding two other candidates and discussing the relative merits in the same league as Chingchai and David is a worthwhile aspiration for all of us.

Peter

nineball · 03/14/2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by salty55

welcome to the group.

Peter

Elliott · 03/14/2010, 09:38 PM

here is a website for a 1700g reef, he includes a section of what he would do differently...

http://energyreef.com/index.html

nineball · 03/14/2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliott

here is a website for a 1700g reef, he includes a section of what he would do differently...

http://energyreef.com/index.html

Thank you Elliott, although I was familiar with the tank the summary was extremely helpful. I did not know that RO/DI units loose 50% effeciency at temp less than 70 degrees. That's very helpful for someone who has to generate enough salt water to float the Titanic.

Peter

palmer373 · 03/14/2010, 10:42 PM

I just skimmed over chings thread and wow i wish i had time to read it! i hop eyour tank will look like his some day!

nineball · 03/14/2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by palmer373

I just skimmed over chings thread and wow i wish i had time to read it! i hop eyour tank will look like his some day!

Palmer Thank you. I do know that at least one quarter of the tank will for sure!!!

Peter

Elliott · 03/14/2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nineball

That's very helpful for someone who has to generate enough salt water to float the Titanic.

Peter

lol

nineball · 03/15/2010, 08:13 AM

OK Time to go to the bear pit!!!!

right, I forgot it's fish, again!!!

Wrong door, the fish room is definately not ready for prime time yet......

Moving thing around doesn't seem to help either

I have gotta clean this up before my wife sees this!!!

This is where Chinchai's Island will be......it's eight feet wide and I just have to figure out how to capture the same rock formations with half the height. My wife still thinks this is a bookcase.

as long as I can keep her from turning the corner.........

Opps I forgot this side........

I think I better rethink this.......I'm ready for a rest......back upstairs!!!

nineball · 03/15/2010, 08:36 AM

I thought at one point I would have this in my tank. It's at least two hundred years old and would blend in with the rustic ambiance...........But then I started to wonder.......that was before the internet.........how could the boatmaker know all the details? There are no plans in existance for this boat, so how did this guy know? Nope, no tank for you my friend......nothing artificial. Too bad really, I kinda like the idea.......

Bax · 03/15/2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nineball

My wife still thinks this is a bookcase.

Classic!

The staircase is a spectacular element and then to end with a view of this tank! WOW!

cloakerpoked · 03/15/2010, 09:42 AM

I was thrilled to see the last batch of pictures. Kudos to your architect for sure!

I'm sure you have considered this, and again it is probably pre-mature to ask, but do you have a plan to deal with the massive humidity that your tank(s) will be throwing into your air in your newly drywalled basement.

TheMikey · 03/15/2010, 09:48 AM

Subscribed to this thread a while back (on page 2!), but just had the time to go through it this morning between my break at school. Looks like an absolutely fantastic build.

But more than that, can I add that I love your philosophy on Reefkeeping?

Big or small (tank size and/or budget

) we all have the ability to take a disciplined and intensive approach to create the natural wonder of the ocean. I'm looking forward to following this build as close as possible. Keep up the exceptional work!

Tonyzoo · 03/15/2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nineball

I thought at one point I would have this in my tank. It's at least two hundred years old and would blend in with the rustic ambiance...........But then I started to wonder.......that was before the internet.........how could the boatmaker know all the details? There are no plans in existance for this boat, so how did this guy know? Nope, no tank for you my friend......nothing artificial. Too bad really, I kinda like the idea.......

Wow, that ship is amazing. I bet that painting above it is pretty sweet too. Is it my imagination or is that painting a coat rack?

nineball · 03/15/2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bax

Classic!

The staircase is a spectacular element and then to end with a view of this tank! WOW!

Thank you, at some point I plan to start a thread with the heading.......

"things I told my wife about this thing before I had to tell her it was an aquarium" .

Peter

Untamed12 · 03/15/2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nineball

as long as I can keep her from turning the corner.........

Wow...I didn't realize how you'll have viewing from both sides of that enormous tank. I like that part of the plan.

It is unfortunate that that supporting post is just not in the best spot, eh?

Keep the updates coming!

nineball · 03/15/2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cloakerpoked

I was thrilled to see the last batch of pictures. Kudos to your architect for sure!

I'm sure you have considered this, and again it is probably pre-mature to ask, but do you have a plan to deal with the massive humidity that your tank(s) will be throwing into your air in your newly drywalled basement.

You know Cloakerpoked, I can't believe this either but you are the first to raise the issue in this thread. It certainly was/is/and will continue to be the dominant issue that accompanied me from the birth of this idea. There's allot of stuff yet to come before you will see the first cup of water or candle light go near the tank. I do have a very extensive suite of measures to ensure that the humidity and remote possibility of creeping mold long after I personally and without any aid solve the algorithm for the rubics cube. I believe thats more than 42 quintillion permutations. I will be covering that issue under the chapter "ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS" or why not build a house and just drop it on the great barrier reef!!!

Peter

03/14/2010, 12:49 PM	#201
delphinus Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Calgary, AB., Canada Posts: 1,453	Been watching this thread for a while. I am somewhat undecided on whether this is an epic build, or epic insanity. Perhaps a little bit of both! ... Enjoy the ride as you go with this, good luck. You have planned out in exquisite detail every imaginable facet, yet, and I suppose you realize this already, but there will always be surprises (both pleasant and unpleasant). My sense of wonderment here is in anticipation of what those surprises will play out to be, over time. One caution: You should know that people who start out in reefing, end up thinking "Boy, I wish I had gone bigger right away" or start dreaming up their upgrades after 6 months or so. I have not seen too many exceptions to this rule. So, um .. yah. Keep that upgrade box nearby at all times. __________________ -Tony My next hobby will be flooding my basement while repeatedly banging my head against a brick wall and tearing up $100 bills. Whee! Current Tank Info: 280g Reef, 65g FOWLR

03/14/2010, 06:09 PM	#205
the_rider Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 449	Wow !! A really nice build ! Thank you for sharing that with us and taking time to answer all the questions and document the process as well Which RO/DI unit are you going to use ? Is it an industrial one ? It probably already bought but you could take a look into the Aquaticlife power, which has an electronic device to auto-flush, and tell you went the cartouches need to be change, and a booster pump. I think the unit with two membranes is running around 600 gpd. I'm looking at your thread a couple of time a day in case there is an update Alex B __________________ DT (The Zen Garden): Miracles Custom Rimless 155G (60x30x20) Marinetech Sump full equip 80G Marinetech 3200 GPH Deltec SC2560 Tunze 2x6105, 2x6055 2xKoralia 4 (In sump) Profilux III ATI Sunpower 6x54W + BLAU 6x54W FRAG : Miracles Custom Rimless (24x24x12) Illumagic M-60S Koralia 4 Live: Fish :One Spot Foxface, CBB, Trio of Royal Gramma, Borbonius Anthias, Multicolor Angel, Multifasciatus Angel, Semi-Picasso Pair

03/14/2010, 07:14 PM	#206
salty55 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: where the wind comes sweeping down the plains Posts: 509	suscribed

03/14/2010, 09:38 PM	#212
Elliott Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 3,849	here is a website for a 1700g reef, he includes a section of what he would do differently... http://energyreef.com/index.html __________________ Rodney Dangerfield - "I worked in a pet store and people would ask how big I would get." TOTM, March 2015 Current Tank Info: tank video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1dI7mdnGU ,900g in wall mixed reef, another 500g sumps, 19 AI Sol LED's, 2 CL's w/VFD's controlled pumps to 24 eductors, 2 Tunze WB's, 2 Barr 5220's and RK2 25PE and BK500, etc

03/15/2010, 09:42 AM	#220
cloakerpoked Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,178	I was thrilled to see the last batch of pictures. Kudos to your architect for sure! I'm sure you have considered this, and again it is probably pre-mature to ask, but do you have a plan to deal with the massive humidity that your tank(s) will be throwing into your air in your newly drywalled basement. __________________ The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. --Alexis de Tocqueville Current Tank Info: 60 gallon cube SPS/LPS reef

03/14/2010, 07:31 PM	#208
solareclisped Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Huntington Posts: 208	Well thanks for recommending Chingchai's thread. I just finished it and it was totally worth the read. It is absolutely amazing. I am sure if you are following his principles yours will be amazing also and I cant wait to see more. I will be around.

03/14/2010, 10:42 PM	#214
palmer373 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,268	I just skimmed over chings thread and wow i wish i had time to read it! i hop eyour tank will look like his some day!

03/15/2010, 08:13 AM	#217
nineball Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oakville Ontario Canada Posts: 2,518	OK Time to go to the bear pit!!!! right, I forgot it's fish, again!!! Wrong door, the fish room is definately not ready for prime time yet...... Moving thing around doesn't seem to help either I have gotta clean this up before my wife sees this!!! This is where Chinchai's Island will be......it's eight feet wide and I just have to figure out how to capture the same rock formations with half the height. My wife still thinks this is a bookcase. as long as I can keep her from turning the corner......... Opps I forgot this side........ I think I better rethink this.......I'm ready for a rest......back upstairs!!!

03/15/2010, 08:36 AM	#218
nineball Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oakville Ontario Canada Posts: 2,518	I thought at one point I would have this in my tank. It's at least two hundred years old and would blend in with the rustic ambiance...........But then I started to wonder.......that was before the internet.........how could the boatmaker know all the details? There are no plans in existance for this boat, so how did this guy know? Nope, no tank for you my friend......nothing artificial. Too bad really, I kinda like the idea.......

03/15/2010, 09:48 AM	#221
TheMikey Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK (Canada... eh) Posts: 109	Subscribed to this thread a while back (on page 2!), but just had the time to go through it this morning between my break at school. Looks like an absolutely fantastic build. But more than that, can I add that I love your philosophy on Reefkeeping? Big or small (tank size and/or budget ) we all have the ability to take a disciplined and intensive approach to create the natural wonder of the ocean. I'm looking forward to following this build as close as possible. Keep up the exceptional work!