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07/01/2016, 11:39 PM | #8626 |
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ok. rebuild happening
Here's the new design. it's odd shaped to fit the contours of the tank/space/fixtures around it. The hashed marker on the top of the top-pipe is where the water will flood up and down around the 1" pipe. Then, the 2" pipe goes around it and will have a slit on the bottom. The idea is to get the water to go all the way down the arms before heading to the slit ok - not so pretty, but I think it shows how the pieces fit together for assembly
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07/01/2016, 11:46 PM | #8627 |
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here's the "overflow" 1" pipe cut
I used 1 1/2" PVC around the 1" pipe just before the 1" elbows to create a seal inside the 2" "slit" pipe. I used epoxy putty to hold it all together and create a seal. and this is how they'll actually go together with the "overflow" 1" pointing up and the "slit" 2" pointing down. and assembly: here are the "sealed" ends I had to break the 2" PVC so I could get the 1" Tee inside it I also decided to add zip-tie streamers to guide the flow out of the slit
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and then epoxy to seal it all up
I decided to use the epoxy gel mix to create a "coating". This works because none of this is under any real pressure. and the fully sealed ends and here's what it looks like for testing
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first trial shows that this actually moves the water to the ends, but leaves the middle empty.
I realized that I can use zipties to modulate the slit width - so I added zipties to the ends to reduce flow there. I let the zipties hang down creating more "streamers" that was pretty good I decided to drill a couple of holes in the 1" pipe at the Tee since there's no "overflow" there and to compensate for the weak mid-path flow. That looks decent. Then I cut back the streamers to prep for the sheet assembly
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By the way, my waterfall is especially hard because it's all gravity fed. Any clog would flood the tank above it, so the flow path has to be as open as possible but still uniform - double hard to do.
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07/02/2016, 01:06 PM | #8631 |
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Is it just me or has this thread been hijacked?
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07/02/2016, 01:51 PM | #8632 |
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In a good way, yes.
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07/02/2016, 03:40 PM | #8633 |
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Well. I can start my own build thread
I figured that everyone was posting their pics and builds here for group help, so.... I'll pose the question to the OP and the oldest regular poster for reference... srusso, Floyd, others - think I should start a separate thread? I'm good with it if it's a distraction
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07/02/2016, 03:52 PM | #8634 |
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Or maybe we need a new "Basics" thread. I can't imagine someone new to ATS or the hobby being able to wade through 346 pages and pull out the "right" information.
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07/02/2016, 03:55 PM | #8635 |
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Can you achieve ulns with an upflow ats? Or would you be better off carbon dosing?
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07/02/2016, 03:57 PM | #8636 |
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Karim (just guessing at the name)
I posted the question about being hijacked, so let me explain. I find the story of your battle with nutrients due to the location and the huge number of insects quite interesting and I am not really upset and have enjoyed, and learned a bit from, your posts. I do think the intend of this thread, as I see it, to help the average reefer understand ATS and how to build, by comparison, a basic functioning ATS. I think some of the "little" guys may be getting lost in the many pages about you build and challenges. I might have approached it with - "Hi I am ***, I have and unusual problem (explain) and will start my own thread and please find it, read it and help me". Actually, I am not sure any of us, including the OP or Floyd, have any idea how to help with your very unique situation (problem). My suggestion, start your own thread as Dimini2 did with his reef tank build.
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hmmm.. The middle path has saved many - so I'll split the difference. I'll start my own thread and then post a link here. I'll continue to post finished results and broad questions, but not the same level of detail.
By the way - many of the improvements have come through the recommendations made by posters on this thread - so I consider myself one of the "little" guys and I'm here to learn as well as share. When I fail, it should help someone else do better. Karim
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07/02/2016, 06:05 PM | #8638 |
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as promised
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...4#post24610054 enjoy and please join if you want to see more (and subscribe to my youtube if you like it too)
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07/02/2016, 09:32 PM | #8639 |
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As promised - just the results
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Perhaps it's time for a locked sticky detailing the latest info? It would be much simpler for anyone new to ATS.
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If that is your goal, and if there are no other filters or water changes, then you'll want multiple scrubbers so that at least one is always filtering when you clean the other. When algae is the only filter, nutrients shoot up real quick when the filter stops. An advantage of an upflow is that it does not really mat down if you can't clean it on time, and it won't dry out if the power goes out. And placement and cleaning is easier. Some of the new waterfall designs I'll be posting solve some issues, but they are not viewable yet. Adding carbon changes the control of what get the low numbers. The carbon will usually win if run strong enough, and will really slow down the algae. So they sort of fight each other. Same with GFO. The only carbon that gets into real reef water is from algae (glucose), so real reef water does not have to deal with extra carbon being added. All the filtering there is done by photosynthesis. Many people have trouble using carbon, and try adding on a scrubber to fix it. It's better however if you just start with scrubber-only.
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Floyd is very helpful giving post numbers in his signature with important information but even those seem a bit outdated to a degree, especially when it comes to lighting. From everything I'm seeing now there are LED units that work well and are not very expensive? |
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You can contact the admins and ask for a scrubber category or sub-section if you want.
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Thanks Turbo! Looking forward to getting this mortar screen on the Turbo L3 soon. Soaking it a few days first.
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Ok, after lots and lots of readings, I have finally have my ATS up and running. I will post some pics, the issue till now is water is not uniformly falling throughout the whole screen. I think I might have to redo the slit.
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Flow should even out after growth starts.
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How often should we be scraping the brown growth off our screens? I just got my scrubber online and every 3-4 days I am basically taking my screen back to the white mesh because I know the brown stuff doesnt really grow all that thick. I just pulled my screen out now and took a picture of it below. Should I be cleaning it every 3-4 days like I have been or since its finally getting slightly greener should I only clean every 7-14?
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Ahhh 12v. Makes sense now lol my bad
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