ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club - Page 143

ReefCowboy · 02/12/2017, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rtparty

I don't know everything Dave can do but I've heard nothing but praise for his work. His website has a lot on it and I know he responds well. I think he can do just about any color you want for a price. Might be a great option for you

Great info, thank you for the heads up. I will check into that. I was very close to getting the powermodule, but its out of the question now.

TonyB13 · 02/16/2017, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB13

Not really it needed to be updated and after the update you can't make adjustments to the time from the computer you have manually input time Keith is going to talk to the engineering and try to find out what is going on

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So ATI cant seem to fix the issue with the time set from the computer, so I paid 2k for each fixture and i have to get on my hands and knees and get my GF to get on the other unit and do it at the same time to set the clock on my lights just unsat. So waited for keith to get the fix which never happened and now i am being ignored. But BRS is awesome they will take it back and I will buy the giessman auroras instead.
I have to take it in the shorts for getting them packaged up since i threw the boxes away but i dont see that I have any other choice if they cant take care of a minor issue like this what if i have a real problem.

rtparty · 02/16/2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB13

So ATI cant seem to fix the issue with the time set from the computer, so I paid 2k for each fixture and i have to get on my hands and knees and get my GF to get on the other unit and do it at the same time to set the clock on my lights just unsat. So waited for keith to get the fix which never happened and now i am being ignored. But BRS is awesome they will take it back and I will buy the giessman auroras instead.
I have to take it in the shorts for getting them packaged up since i threw the boxes away but i dont see that I have any other choice if they cant take care of a minor issue like this what if i have a real problem.

This is too bad. Not sure what's going on but ATI seems to be seriously lacking in the CS as of late

mike810 · 02/18/2017, 01:41 AM

I had the same issue with the time resetting every time there was a power outage when the lights were set up. I'm sitting idle waiting for my 360g to be built and was hoping there would've been some update for it by now since my old tank has been offline for almost a year now.

Luckily, I have not had any major problems with the PMs except for a minor problem. I have two 48" PMs and one of the blue leds on one of the fixture seems to be a bit dimmer than the other 7 clusters. Not worth the trouble of contacting ATI for it.

TonyB13 · 02/24/2017, 02:11 PM

So i had the fortune or misfortune to try both ati hybrid and giesmann aurora.
So i bought two 48 inch ati*8 bulb hybrids, and on one of the lights the time would not updated from the computer and I had to manually set the clock, so I called ati and after they updated the system, both light fixtures stopped working from the computer. Nothing wrong besides the fact*that the time would not updated. I was assured that within a week i would have a fix, which didn't happen. So talked to brs and decided to return the atis and get giesmann aurora. Just got the giessmans up last night. At first glance way less light but i haven't finished adjusting them. I am really disgusted with the price that I payed for these lights and the fact that instructions are reallynonexistent. The big reason for returning the atis was if they couldn't fix something so minor what if i had*a really big issue later. I am not sure im going to be happy with the amount of light coming out of giessmans but i will update asap. Being able to set up light from my phone is a pretty nice feature. The ati advertise that it does cloud cover it does not. As for the fixtures both are very nice the giessmans seem a little more sturdy but i was happy with*my atis wish they would have been able to fix my little issue and given me thewarm and fuzzies. Brs was wonderful through this whole ordeal as always.

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rtparty · 02/24/2017, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB13

So i had the fortune or misfortune to try both ati hybrid and giesmann aurora.
So i bought two 48 inch ati*8 bulb hybrids, and on one of the lights the time would not updated from the computer and I had to manually set the clock, so I called ati and after they updated the system, both light fixtures stopped working from the computer. Nothing wrong besides the fact*that the time would not updated. I was assured that within a week i would have a fix, which didn't happen. So talked to brs and decided to return the atis and get giesmann aurora. Just got the giessmans up last night. At first glance way less light but i haven't finished adjusting them. I am really disgusted with the price that I payed for these lights and the fact that instructions are reallynonexistent. The big reason for returning the atis was if they couldn't fix something so minor what if i had*a really big issue later. I am not sure im going to be happy with the amount of light coming out of giessmans but i will update asap. Being able to set up light from my phone is a pretty nice feature. The ati advertise that it does cloud cover it does not. As for the fixtures both are very nice the giessmans seem a little more sturdy but i was happy with*my atis wish they would have been able to fix my little issue and given me thewarm and fuzzies. Brs was wonderful through this whole ordeal as always.

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It's an odd situation for sure. I wonder why they didn't try just sending you new control boxes and see if that solved the issue(s). The ATI's put out a ton of light and I loved mine. I just never felt the price was justified though. A regular Sunpower with a couple mods will "do" the same thing.

I love Giesemann when it comes to their MH and design. Their T5s have always been a disappointment IMO.

TonyB13 · 02/24/2017, 05:41 PM

They offered to send me some part to change. and he could not insure me that it would fix the issue. I am also thinking that the ati was netter

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sixpackgarage · 02/28/2017, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jchap

I'm going to make the jump from (2) Kessil 360's to a PM, but need some advice on the specific PM model.

I've got a 36x24x16 tank with mainly SPS. I'm planning on getting the 36" PM model, but am wondering if the 4 bulb will be enough or if I need to spend the extra cash for the 8 bulb? I'm thinking the 4 bulb may be adequate speaking the tank is only 16" deep.

Any advice will be much appreciated!!

I'd do 24" 6 bulb straight t5 and keep the Kessils on the ends

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125mph · 03/02/2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB13

Just got the giessmans up last night. At first glance way less light but i haven't finished adjusting them. I am really disgusted with the price that I payed for these lights and the fact that instructions are reallynonexistent. The big reason for returning the atis was if they couldn't fix something so minor what if i had*a really big issue later. I am not sure im going to be happy with the amount of light coming out of giessmans but i will update asap.

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Can you give an update on the aurora? I'm about to purchase a 60" aurora this weekend.. How much less light is it really? Are you able to get good par for SPS from the auroras?

TonyB13 · 03/02/2017, 04:38 PM

You get plenty of light but if you want to sit on your couch and look at your beautiful tank the leds are blindig. Second bigger issue is if for whatever reason the Bluetooth fails you aint duin nutin. The atis only issue is that it wont set the clock from my computer the light even full blast with 8 bulbs is still pleasant to look at

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TonyB13 · 03/02/2017, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 125mph

Can you give an update on the aurora? I'm about to purchase a 60" aurora this weekend.. How much less light is it really? Are you able to get good par for SPS from the auroras?

Long story short I had the atis packaged up for Return then the giessmans started acting up, this was on one unit only, wouldn't communicate with app and then it was strobing evrey time it went down a Notch in dimming

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ReefCowboy · 03/02/2017, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB13

Long story short I had the atis packaged up for Return then the giessmans started acting up, this was on one unit only, wouldn't communicate with app and then it was strobing evrey time it went down a Notch in dimming

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Man that sucks. I feel bad for your bad experience with hybrid fixtures so far!
So you are keeping the ATI's? Im sure the clock issue can be repaired.

allrover75 · 03/03/2017, 06:46 AM

Hey ATI hybrid users.

I recently upgraded my tank, and moved my corals over from being under Radion LEDs to an ATI hybrid. Now i also changed a number of other things at the same time, so what follows isnt necessarily down to the change in lighting, but I am pursuing all avenues.

Many of my hard corals have been slowly bleaching since the move...some seem fine (my stylophoras in particular), some of my acropora have faded colour and minimal polyp extension, and some such as a hystrix colony have bleached completely to white.

As there are no recommended settings for the hybrid, Ive had to guess at how to set it up. Intensity wise its probably ok....I can measure PAR and adjust accordingly.

It the blend of led and t5, and the colour spectrums i need suggestions on.

1 - how does everyone balance the t5s and leds? Same intensity for both, more t5 and less led, or the opposite?
2 - what is a good safe colour spectrum to set my leds to through the day?
3 - I have the following bulbs in, could the mix be a problem, and can anyone suggest how i could change it for the better?
2 x aquablue special
1 x Blue plus
1 x Purple plus

Thanks for any advice and experience you can share.

Chris

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rtparty · 03/03/2017, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by allrover75

Hey ATI hybrid users.

I recently upgraded my tank, and moved my corals over from being under Radion LEDs to an ATI hybrid. Now i also changed a number of other things at the same time, so what follows isnt necessarily down to the change in lighting, but I am pursuing all avenues.

Many of my hard corals have been slowly bleaching since the move...some seem fine (my stylophoras in particular), some of my acropora have faded colour and minimal polyp extension, and some such as a hystrix colony have bleached completely to white.

As there are no recommended settings for the hybrid, Ive had to guess at how to set it up. Intensity wise its probably ok....I can measure PAR and adjust accordingly.

It the blend of led and t5, and the colour spectrums i need suggestions on.

1 - how does everyone balance the t5s and leds? Same intensity for both, more t5 and less led, or the opposite?
2 - what is a good safe colour spectrum to set my leds to through the day?
3 - I have the following bulbs in, could the mix be a problem, and can anyone suggest how i could change it for the better?
2 x aquablue special
1 x Blue plus
1 x Purple plus

Thanks for any advice and experience you can share.

Chris

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I'm betting you shocked most things with a lot more light. How high is the fixture off the water? What percentage do you run the LEDs?

I'd ditch both Aquablue bulbs. Add another blue plus and an actinic bulb to round out the spectrum. Do not run the LEDs over 25% for a little bit. I'd run the T5s at 50% to begin with. Maybe for a week? Then start slowly adding 10% every week until you hit 100%. I doubt you'll ever need the LEDs over 50% but measure PAR and see where you're at.

What are your nitrates and phosphates at? If 0, bump them up and get your corals some food.

Also, what size tank is this and how old? Sorry if it's in your signature, I'm on Tapatalk and don't see it.

FDAWG · 03/03/2017, 10:51 AM

Looks like there's a NEW ATI Powermodule Hybrid or maybe just a new LED board coming out very soon. Here's a picture and more details will be released next week.

From ATI Aquaristik

Our proven LED T5 Hybrid Powermodule now features even more LED light colors.

The new LED assembly is as follows:
4x UV-LED 405 nm
4x violet 425 nm
4x royal blue 450 nm
8x blue 470 nm
8x white 6500 ° K
This extends the spectrum to the UV range, which leads to a more natural lighting.

allrover75 · 03/03/2017, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rtparty

I'm betting you shocked most things with a lot more light. How high is the fixture off the water? What percentage do you run the LEDs?

I'd ditch both Aquablue bulbs. Add another blue plus and an actinic bulb to round out the spectrum. Do not run the LEDs over 25% for a little bit. I'd run the T5s at 50% to begin with. Maybe for a week? Then start slowly adding 10% every week until you hit 100%. I doubt you'll ever need the LEDs over 50% but measure PAR and see where you're at.

What are your nitrates and phosphates at? If 0, bump them up and get your corals some food.

Also, what size tank is this and how old? Sorry if it's in your signature, I'm on Tapatalk and don't see it.

Hey, no worries. Tank is 6 foot long, 2 ft deep, ten weeks old....was cycling for 6 weeks, and corals transferred over from old tank about 3 to 4 weeks ago.

ati unit is a 4 x 80 watt tube, 4 led panel. I was careful not to blast them with too much initially, I started at 30% leds and t5s, with unit about 12 inches off the water. Par level just under surface was about 200, dropping to 50-100 near the bottom. Very conservative i thought.

I have since increased t5s to 60%, with leds at 40%. I heard the leds where pretty concentrated in their output, so was a bit scared with them. Par not much different at surface tbh, but more like 150 further down now.

I do have some more blue plus bulbs, just waiting for a spare basic fitting plate to arrive so i can burn it in at max for 48 hrs, then swap it in.

As i mentioned, there are lots of other potential causes for unhappy corals too...its a very new tank. So still struggling to get alk stable for example. Nitrates are at 6, phosphate 0.06, so i think they are fine though.

This hybrid thing is witchcraft to me though, after the simplicity of the radions! :-)

What t5 light spectrum do you set the leds to copy, using the ati program? I just picked blue plus, which has no red in it at all. Do you use a preset, or have a custom blend?

What par do you personally aim for at top middle and bottom in your tank?

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ReefCowboy · 03/04/2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FDAWG

Looks like there's a NEW ATI Powermodule Hybrid or maybe just a new LED board coming out very soon. Here's a picture and more details will be released next week.

From ATI Aquaristik

Our proven LED T5 Hybrid Powermodule now features even more LED light colors.

The new LED assembly is as follows:
4x UV-LED 405 nm
4x violet 425 nm
4x royal blue 450 nm
8x blue 470 nm
8x white 6500 ° K
This extends the spectrum to the UV range, which leads to a more natural lighting.

If ATI unveiled a new and improved Powermodule this year, man I would be all over it.

rtparty · 03/04/2017, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ReefCowboy

If ATI unveiled a new and improved Powermodule this year, man I would be all over it.

I'd take a Nanobox hybrid before spending what ATI wants.

That's just me though

ReefCowboy · 03/04/2017, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rtparty

I'd take a Nanobox hybrid before spending what ATI wants.

That's just me though

I looked into it after your advice, and although it seems like a great job, I would prefer the look of the powermodule. Ive noticed Ive become a bad OCD patient with my tank and the new build will have to satisfy all of my craziness!

I added temporarily some reefbrites to my sunpower and I think the look isnt for me either. I will need a hybrid Unit that is clean looking and that performs. Im loving the look of T5's having used leds, ive noticed there is a difference between T5's and ATI T5's also. This sunpower looks and performs WAY better than my last Tek Light.

I would only need leds for dusk/dawn, really. The pop and overall color of the tank is plenty to my taste with the blue+'s and actinic bulbs. Im ok with the Powermodule runing hot, I would probably be running the leds at night only at lower %'s for viewing asthetics vs for coral lighting, so heat would be lowered.

As long as the thing works I would be happy I think.

rtparty · 03/04/2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ReefCowboy

I looked into it after your advice, and although it seems like a great job, I would prefer the look of the powermodule. Ive noticed Ive become a bad OCD patient with my tank and the new build will have to satisfy all of my craziness!

I added temporarily some reefbrites to my sunpower and I think the look isnt for me either. I will need a hybrid Unit that is clean looking and that performs. Im loving the look of T5's having used leds, ive noticed there is a difference between T5's and ATI T5's also. This sunpower looks and performs WAY better than my last Tek Light.

I would only need leds for dusk/dawn, really. The pop and overall color of the tank is plenty to my taste with the blue+'s and actinic bulbs. Im ok with the Powermodule runing hot, I would probably be running the leds at night only at lower %'s for viewing asthetics vs for coral lighting, so heat would be lowered.

As long as the thing works I would be happy I think.

I'm the same way with LEDs. I love them for dusk/dawn and some nice pop. For daylight, they do nothing for me. I want to add a RB to my Gmann fixture when the time comes.

ReefCowboy · 03/04/2017, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rtparty

I'm the same way with LEDs. I love them for dusk/dawn and some nice pop. For daylight, they do nothing for me. I want to add a RB to my Gmann fixture when the time comes.

You run the Matrixx now?

rtparty · 03/04/2017, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ReefCowboy

You run the Matrixx now?

It's a 250w halide and 2 T5 fixture. Not sure which model it is.

TonyB13 · 03/05/2017, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ReefCowboy

Man that sucks. I feel bad for your bad experience with hybrid fixtures so far!
So you are keeping the ATI's? Im sure the clock issue can be repaired.

Yeap going to keep the atis, the light is a lot more pleasant to the eyes than the giessmans.

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DylansGolden · 03/25/2017, 09:39 AM

Looking for lighting over my 20" cube, Solana 34G. Do you guys think a 4 bulb 24" ATI Hybrid would be enough for the tank? It will be an SPS only.

rtparty · 03/25/2017, 12:45 PM

It will be more than enough

03/25/2017, 12:45 PM	#3575
rtparty Raise The Reef! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 7,404	It will be more than enough __________________ Ryan Click on my user name and check out my homepage! Current Tank Info: 50g Cadlights/Giesemann Spectra (250w Radium, 2 ATI Blue Plus, 2 ATI Actinic)/2 x Vortech MP10wQD/Skimz SN123/Eheim Compact 3000+

02/18/2017, 01:41 AM	#3554
mike810 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 2,235	I had the same issue with the time resetting every time there was a power outage when the lights were set up. I'm sitting idle waiting for my 360g to be built and was hoping there would've been some update for it by now since my old tank has been offline for almost a year now. Luckily, I have not had any major problems with the PMs except for a minor problem. I have two 48" PMs and one of the blue leds on one of the fixture seems to be a bit dimmer than the other 7 clusters. Not worth the trouble of contacting ATI for it.

02/24/2017, 02:11 PM	#3555
TonyB13 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Sterling VA Posts: 116	So i had the fortune or misfortune to try both ati hybrid and giesmann aurora. So i bought two 48 inch ati8 bulb hybrids, and on one of the lights the time would not updated from the computer and I had to manually set the clock, so I called ati and after they updated the system, both light fixtures stopped working from the computer. Nothing wrong besides the factthat the time would not updated. I was assured that within a week i would have a fix, which didn't happen. So talked to brs and decided to return the atis and get giesmann aurora. Just got the giessmans up last night. At first glance way less light but i haven't finished adjusting them. I am really disgusted with the price that I payed for these lights and the fact that instructions are reallynonexistent. The big reason for returning the atis was if they couldn't fix something so minor what if i hada really big issue later. I am not sure im going to be happy with the amount of light coming out of giessmans but i will update asap. Being able to set up light from my phone is a pretty nice feature. The ati advertise that it does cloud cover it does not. As for the fixtures both are very nice the giessmans seem a little more sturdy but i was happy withmy atis wish they would have been able to fix my little issue and given me thewarm and fuzzies. Brs was wonderful through this whole ordeal as always. Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

02/24/2017, 05:41 PM	#3557
TonyB13 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Sterling VA Posts: 116	They offered to send me some part to change. and he could not insure me that it would fix the issue. I am also thinking that the ati was netter Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

03/02/2017, 04:38 PM	#3560
TonyB13 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Sterling VA Posts: 116	You get plenty of light but if you want to sit on your couch and look at your beautiful tank the leds are blindig. Second bigger issue is if for whatever reason the Bluetooth fails you aint duin nutin. The atis only issue is that it wont set the clock from my computer the light even full blast with 8 bulbs is still pleasant to look at Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk

03/03/2017, 06:46 AM	#3563
allrover75 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 3	Hey ATI hybrid users. I recently upgraded my tank, and moved my corals over from being under Radion LEDs to an ATI hybrid. Now i also changed a number of other things at the same time, so what follows isnt necessarily down to the change in lighting, but I am pursuing all avenues. Many of my hard corals have been slowly bleaching since the move...some seem fine (my stylophoras in particular), some of my acropora have faded colour and minimal polyp extension, and some such as a hystrix colony have bleached completely to white. As there are no recommended settings for the hybrid, Ive had to guess at how to set it up. Intensity wise its probably ok....I can measure PAR and adjust accordingly. It the blend of led and t5, and the colour spectrums i need suggestions on. 1 - how does everyone balance the t5s and leds? Same intensity for both, more t5 and less led, or the opposite? 2 - what is a good safe colour spectrum to set my leds to through the day? 3 - I have the following bulbs in, could the mix be a problem, and can anyone suggest how i could change it for the better? 2 x aquablue special 1 x Blue plus 1 x Purple plus Thanks for any advice and experience you can share. Chris Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk

03/03/2017, 10:51 AM	#3565
FDAWG Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, California Posts: 422	Looks like there's a NEW ATI Powermodule Hybrid or maybe just a new LED board coming out very soon. Here's a picture and more details will be released next week. From ATI Aquaristik Our proven LED T5 Hybrid Powermodule now features even more LED light colors. The new LED assembly is as follows: 4x UV-LED 405 nm 4x violet 425 nm 4x royal blue 450 nm 8x blue 470 nm 8x white 6500 ° K This extends the spectrum to the UV range, which leads to a more natural lighting.

03/25/2017, 09:39 AM	#3574
DylansGolden Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Dixon, CA Posts: 218	Looking for lighting over my 20" cube, Solana 34G. Do you guys think a 4 bulb 24" ATI Hybrid would be enough for the tank? It will be an SPS only.