Regal Angel Primer - Page 120

LukFox · 12/12/2011, 02:34 PM

I think something like a 2.5-3" juvie should be best. Remember to keep them separate but with visual contact (like an acclimation box or eggcrate barrier) until they get used to each other. The dominant one will become male.

Inklinkerman · 12/13/2011, 01:37 AM

thanks. how long should I keep them seperate? and how do i know if they are paired?

stuifbol · 12/13/2011, 01:52 AM

This is mine

not completely sharp picture

eats everything:frozen,flakes,.....

Inklinkerman · 12/19/2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inklinkerman

thanks. how long should I keep them seperate? and how do i know if they are paired?

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kwl1763 · 12/23/2011, 09:29 AM

Has anyone found a good source for getting Juvi's. I have had one in my 450 for 4 years now. I would love to add a pair in my 180 but have never found a decent source for small ones.

shaka · 12/23/2011, 11:39 AM

NY Aquatic had a 1" specimen from Bali the last time I checked ( yesterday).
I've never ordered from him but I've heard good things.

BL1 · 12/23/2011, 01:30 PM

DD has been getting quite a few juvies in recently, and PIA has gotten some in too.

mwilliams62 · 12/28/2011, 05:01 PM

Man this a really long read but very, very informative here but I was wandering for the QT for Regals what all needs to be in there for them so they want get stressed out and how big of at QT do you need for them?

maxxII · 12/28/2011, 05:32 PM

My QT just consisted of a 58 gallon tank filled up 1/3 of the way with two other fish (Tomini tang and Purple tang,both significantly smaller than Regal itself), a skimmer sitting in the tank, and some PVC fittings for cover for the fish to hide out in if scared.

The other fish needed to be QT'd also and "taught" the Regal to eat other foods she didnt recognize initially.

Nick

Dr Colliebreath · 12/28/2011, 08:50 PM

My ~3" regal is in a 20 long QT with a moorish idol and it is plenty of room. I have a 3" pvc pipe and a 4" pvc elbow for hiding. The regal is not as active a swimmer as the idol. It hides some but comes right out when there is food in the tank.

mwilliams62 · 12/29/2011, 10:03 AM

Thnak you was not sure since they are more sensitive fish then most others.

maxxII · 12/29/2011, 04:45 PM

In my experiance, they are not MORE sensitive than other fish, but rather, much slower at adapting to captivity than most other fish. I've had two Regal's, (lost the first one in an accident involving my Ritteri anemone), and both took about a year to become fully aclimated to my system and begin eating with gusto and enthusiasm. Once you get them eating regularly and a healthy mix of food, its just a matter of time for them to become the boss fish. My IO Regal actually got bullied by a smaller Doliatus Rabbit in the tank while getting acclimated....The Rabbit got yanked quickly.

Nick

mwilliams62 · 12/30/2011, 08:46 AM

Which ones are the hardiest ones from which Seas?

szwab · 12/30/2011, 10:50 AM

IMO there is no significant difference. Other than handling after collection. I have both a grey and yellow belly, both acclimated about the same.

maxxII · 12/30/2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by szwab

IMO there is no significant difference. Other than handling after collection. I have both a grey and yellow belly, both acclimated about the same.

Agreed.

Both of mine acclimated about the same, (one Red Sea, the other an Indo Pacific). I would suggest buying from a reputable dealer who legitmately takes care of their livestock and go from there.

The old adage of Red Sea Regals being in better shape used to be due to the Red Sea Collectors having a shorter supply line, and better control of how many hands their fish passed through before reaching the end purchaser. Now days, fish collectors have almost all stepped up their collection and holding techniques and the fish are all in better shape because of it.

Regals of any kind are still by no means "easy" IMO. But its easier to get a healthy one and get it acclimated to captivity.

Nick

rhouse24 · 02/16/2012, 09:30 PM

My regal never took to eating mysis. In the last month he begin to eat less and less. I started trying to feed alternative foods (shrimp pieces, clam, melon etc) but with little success. I was feeding brine three or four times per day and the poor guy would only eat 3 or 4 shrimp per day, if he came out at all. In the last two weeks he would actually hide in the rockwork when I came in the room. This past weekend I found him, obviously starved. Such a beautiful fish, what a shame

For the record he was a 4.5" Sumatran yellow belly from DD.

flameangel88 · 02/16/2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rhouse24

My regal never took to eating mysis. In the last month he begin to eat less and less. I started trying to feed alternative foods (shrimp pieces, clam, melon etc) but with little success. I was feeding brine three or four times per day and the poor guy would only eat 3 or 4 shrimp per day, if he came out at all. In the last two weeks he would actually hide in the rockwork when I came in the room. This past weekend I found him, obviously starved. Such a beautiful fish, what a shame

For the record he was a 4.5" Sumatran yellow belly from DD.

Sorry to hear that. Regal angels are difficult to wean into prepared food but buying from DD gave you a better chance. I'm curious as to whether you treated the regal with prazi or not? I got a greytail angel a year ago and I couldn't get it to eat then within a month it starved to death. It came in skinny so I didn't dare to treat with prazi and I was hoping everyday that it would start eating but that never happened.

rhouse24 · 02/18/2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flameangel88

I'm curious as to whether you treated the regal with prazi or not?

I didn't do any treatments during or after acclimation in the DT. His tankmates (a wrasse and three anthias) gave him a wide birth but he was scared of his own shadow. He did not like something about mysis, sometimes he would eat it and spit it out. He was large enough were they should not have been a problem, so it had to be something else he didn't like (soaking in garlic didn't work either). That's as far as I got.

MonsterTankMan · 02/18/2012, 06:05 PM

I had a Regal for a month or so eating like a pig and all, but as I reached the 5th week things started changing. It's eating changed, it started hiding more. Velvet was It's death...I did not catch it in time.

crobattt · 04/17/2012, 08:02 AM

My Regal is eating clams, should i go to the grocery and see if the have any fresh clams? and if so how should i feed them? sorry i don't know much about clams...

Tracey2 · 04/17/2012, 11:17 AM

Mine eat clams for the grocery store, make sure they are closed up tight when you buy them, put one in a bowl with hot hot water for a could mins to open it enough to get a knife in there and open it up, then drop in tank and freeze the rest.

crobattt · 04/17/2012, 11:22 AM

the only thing i could find was precooked clams.. is that ok to feed? they were steamed, no spices or anything like that.

Tracey2 · 04/17/2012, 12:58 PM

I have never fed precooked clams so I'm not sure, I can't see why it would hurt but your regal may not like them as much.

szwab · 04/17/2012, 01:04 PM

Not ideal as some of the nutrients will be gone. I'd choose frozen clams/mussels over cooked.

crobattt · 04/17/2012, 01:07 PM

ok thanks

12/12/2011, 02:34 PM	#2976
LukFox Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Los Gatos, CA Posts: 3,502	I think something like a 2.5-3" juvie should be best. Remember to keep them separate but with visual contact (like an acclimation box or eggcrate barrier) until they get used to each other. The dominant one will become male. __________________ Alexa

12/23/2011, 09:29 AM	#2980
kwl1763 Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 877	Has anyone found a good source for getting Juvi's. I have had one in my 450 for 4 years now. I would love to add a pair in my 180 but have never found a decent source for small ones. __________________ Keith Click the red house above to visit my thread Current Tank Info: 450G SPS tank and a 20G RBTA/Clown tank

12/28/2011, 05:32 PM	#2984
maxxII Super Housemonkey! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 4,442	My QT just consisted of a 58 gallon tank filled up 1/3 of the way with two other fish (Tomini tang and Purple tang,both significantly smaller than Regal itself), a skimmer sitting in the tank, and some PVC fittings for cover for the fish to hide out in if scared. The other fish needed to be QT'd also and "taught" the Regal to eat other foods she didnt recognize initially. Nick __________________ A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun!"

12/28/2011, 08:50 PM	#2985
Dr Colliebreath Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DC Vicinity Posts: 1,813	My ~3" regal is in a 20 long QT with a moorish idol and it is plenty of room. I have a 3" pvc pipe and a 4" pvc elbow for hiding. The regal is not as active a swimmer as the idol. It hides some but comes right out when there is food in the tank. __________________ Frank Current Tank Info: 110 Oceanic RR w/35 gal sump and SRO XP2000 int

12/29/2011, 04:45 PM	#2987
maxxII Super Housemonkey! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 4,442	In my experiance, they are not MORE sensitive than other fish, but rather, much slower at adapting to captivity than most other fish. I've had two Regal's, (lost the first one in an accident involving my Ritteri anemone), and both took about a year to become fully aclimated to my system and begin eating with gusto and enthusiasm. Once you get them eating regularly and a healthy mix of food, its just a matter of time for them to become the boss fish. My IO Regal actually got bullied by a smaller Doliatus Rabbit in the tank while getting acclimated....The Rabbit got yanked quickly. Nick __________________ A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun!"

12/13/2011, 01:37 AM	#2977
Inklinkerman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK Posts: 306	thanks. how long should I keep them seperate? and how do i know if they are paired?

12/23/2011, 11:39 AM	#2981
shaka Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 224	NY Aquatic had a 1" specimen from Bali the last time I checked ( yesterday). I've never ordered from him but I've heard good things.

12/23/2011, 01:30 PM	#2982
BL1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 109	DD has been getting quite a few juvies in recently, and PIA has gotten some in too.

12/28/2011, 05:01 PM	#2983
mwilliams62 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,056	Man this a really long read but very, very informative here but I was wandering for the QT for Regals what all needs to be in there for them so they want get stressed out and how big of at QT do you need for them?

12/29/2011, 10:03 AM	#2986
mwilliams62 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,056	Thnak you was not sure since they are more sensitive fish then most others.

12/30/2011, 08:46 AM	#2988
mwilliams62 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,056	Which ones are the hardiest ones from which Seas?

12/30/2011, 10:50 AM	#2989
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	IMO there is no significant difference. Other than handling after collection. I have both a grey and yellow belly, both acclimated about the same. __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

02/16/2012, 09:30 PM	#2991
rhouse24 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 60	Not the update I wanted to give My regal never took to eating mysis. In the last month he begin to eat less and less. I started trying to feed alternative foods (shrimp pieces, clam, melon etc) but with little success. I was feeding brine three or four times per day and the poor guy would only eat 3 or 4 shrimp per day, if he came out at all. In the last two weeks he would actually hide in the rockwork when I came in the room. This past weekend I found him, obviously starved. Such a beautiful fish, what a shame For the record he was a 4.5" Sumatran yellow belly from DD. __________________ ~Rob Current Tank Info: 110 gal super show, basement 90gal sump, SRO 200 extreme, Velocity T3, 2-250 watt 14.5K coralifes, 4 PC actinics, 1/4hp chiller, Neptune Apex Controller

02/18/2012, 06:05 PM	#2994
MonsterTankMan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 48176/Michigan Posts: 60	I had a Regal for a month or so eating like a pig and all, but as I reached the 5th week things started changing. It's eating changed, it started hiding more. Velvet was It's death...I did not catch it in time.

04/17/2012, 08:02 AM	#2995
crobattt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 786	My Regal is eating clams, should i go to the grocery and see if the have any fresh clams? and if so how should i feed them? sorry i don't know much about clams... __________________ Phil 4:13: I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

04/17/2012, 11:17 AM	#2996
Tracey2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 860	Mine eat clams for the grocery store, make sure they are closed up tight when you buy them, put one in a bowl with hot hot water for a could mins to open it enough to get a knife in there and open it up, then drop in tank and freeze the rest.

04/17/2012, 11:22 AM	#2997
crobattt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 786	the only thing i could find was precooked clams.. is that ok to feed? they were steamed, no spices or anything like that. __________________ Phil 4:13: I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

04/17/2012, 12:58 PM	#2998
Tracey2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 860	I have never fed precooked clams so I'm not sure, I can't see why it would hurt but your regal may not like them as much.

04/17/2012, 01:04 PM	#2999
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	Not ideal as some of the nutrients will be gone. I'd choose frozen clams/mussels over cooked. __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

04/17/2012, 01:07 PM	#3000
crobattt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 786	ok thanks __________________ Phil 4:13: I can do everything through him who gives me strength.