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Old 10/08/2018, 12:07 PM   #26
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I did return the fish to the same tank after the dips, but I was dosing Paragard to that tank as well. Today I'm going to do General Cure and move the fish to a new tank after.


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Old 10/08/2018, 12:30 PM   #27
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When using paraguard I dose the conc dip for an hour as the bottle states then move the fish , I havenít used it as a long term in the tank treatment.


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Old 10/08/2018, 09:13 PM   #28
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For Quick Cure the dip dosage is 20 drops per gallon...10x the standard dose? Any idea how long to dip fish specifically for flukes?


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Old 10/09/2018, 05:09 PM   #29
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I would say minimum of 20 but max of 45. Make sure you aerate and watch fish closely, again donít put fish back in same tank. several treatments may be needed . Post your results


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Old 10/09/2018, 10:50 PM   #30
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How do I dispose of the Quick Cure dip?


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Old 10/09/2018, 11:28 PM   #31
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Down the drain . I possibly would use that dip mixture more than once . I donít think anything lives on in formalin especially if it does knock them off. Maybe someone else might comment


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Old 10/10/2018, 11:59 AM   #32
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FW dipped just now and a couple flukes came off. I think I'm just gonna FW dip every day for now as they don't really seem to stress out and redo the Quick Cure(if necessary) in 7 days.


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Old 10/11/2018, 01:55 PM   #33
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I have not use quick cure but have 37% formalin plenty of times before. you would dose 20 drops per gallon and use as a bath for 30-50 min max. Remove the fish if it shows sign of stress. aerate the water heavily before and during the entire bath. after the bath, the fish should be transferred to a new sterile qt. Transfer only the fish and no equipment. Repeat 5-7 days latter.
Try not to breath in formalin. Its a known carcinogenic.
In my experience paraguard has been a total waste of money and failure. Never has worked to resolve any disease or parasite.


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Old 10/11/2018, 06:47 PM   #34
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Lagatbezan . I tried the conc dip of paraguard only for elimination of flukes . Prior to that I was dipping in fw and that seemed to work but the fish always scared me. They showed signs of distress or maybe just I was anxious and didnít want to lose them . So switching to paraguard and using it in the bag for an hour with slight aeration allowed me to eliminate flukes. They havenít showed symptoms of stress. For sure the fish I got had flukes because I saw them scratching at the store . Now I never tried it for other things like ich or velvet.


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Old 10/12/2018, 09:11 AM   #35
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Lagatbezan . I tried the conc dip of paraguard only for elimination of flukes . Prior to that I was dipping in fw and that seemed to work but the fish always scared me. They showed signs of distress or maybe just I was anxious and didn’t want to lose them . So switching to paraguard and using it in the bag for an hour with slight aeration allowed me to eliminate flukes. They haven’t showed symptoms of stress. For sure the fish I got had flukes because I saw them scratching at the store . Now I never tried it for other things like ich or velvet.
Louis was it a prazi resistant strain of flukes that you used paraguard on and had success with? did you do 5 days of hypo as well prior to treat flukes? if so thats amazing and good to know that it might actually work in this case.


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Old 10/12/2018, 10:29 AM   #36
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I am following OP Snuffie initial post he said he used cupramine then followed with prazipro. He said he dropped salinity but you recommended lower salinity. He says he still had flukes. My protocol had been to use FW . Then at the suggestion of paraguard conc dosing, I went out and tried it on my fishes flukes and it worked . I havenít personally encountered prazipro resistant flukes . All of my simple methods have always worked when I have transferred the dipped fish to new tanks. They go in flashing and come out fine . I just thought the fish looked less stressed with paraguard.thats why I recommend it now . But my fall back will be 2 to 3 min FW dip. I have been recommending general cure at each new transfer in TTM because it has praziquantel and metronidazole . I want to get rid of protozoan infections and internal worm infections . metro is indicated for protozoan infection in humans . Whether it gets high enough in internal dose to do that - I donít know . I wonder if metro attacks ick in its protozoan swimming stage in the water


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