Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here! - Page 11

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 11:54 AM

Any word if Kessil is going to update lights/app so there aren't just 9 blues but would be like radion. I realize u can add green and reds to them.

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor2j

Any word if Kessil is going to update lights/app so there aren't just 9 blues but would be like radion. I realize u can add green and reds to them.

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That would defeat the entire purpose of the Kessil logic that makes these lights so successful at growing reefs.

Aaron

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bif24701

That would defeat the entire purpose of the Kessil logic that makes these lights so successful at growing reefs.

Aaron

I wanted it more to have smooth transition between the blues.

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 11:58 AM

You can notice it?

Aaron

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 11:59 AM

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You can notice it?

Aaron

Just got them but when u go from one blue to another does it "ramp" or does it change at said time? Say at 1pm I have white and at 4 have pm have ocean blue, is it a hard switch or a transition?

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:02 PM

I never notice any abrupt change. How far separated are your colors? To me they transition.

Aaron

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bif24701

I never notice any abrupt change. How far separated are your colors? To me they transition.

Aaron

Just had a little time to play with them yesterday and now out of town but have read others say theres no transition. There's transition in intensity. Hopefully someone can confirm

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor2j

Just had a little time to play with them yesterday and now out of town but have read others say theres no transition. There's transition in intensity. Hopefully someone can confirm

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I program in the transition by adding the "in between" colors.

This way it's not going from White to blue all at once. Add those point in and you won't notice the change.

Aaron

bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:12 PM

Also, just ran the program play back and there certainly seems to be a transition in color. Even when the program runs quickly I don't notice abrupt changes. Then again, like I said, I'm not going from all white to all blue all at once.

Aaron

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bif24701

Also, just ran the program play back and there certainly seems to be a transition in color. Even when the program runs quickly I don't notice abrupt changes. Then again, like I said, I'm not going from all white to all blue all at once.

Aaron

Im not either, only going maybe a total of 4 steps. Was under impression there's a hard notch.

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:14 PM

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Im not either, only going maybe a total of 4 steps. Was under impression there's a hard notch.

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Why not program those 4 steps of transition into your program?

Aaron

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 12:15 PM

I have but if it's a hard switch it's defiently noticeable. Was used to 360s on apex with full control

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:16 PM

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I have but if it's a hard switch it's defiently noticeable. Was used to 360s on apex with full control

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Ok

Aaron

CIRCLE10 · 09/25/2016, 12:21 PM

In my opinion if you want to grow some nice coral , I'd stay/peak in the bluer side of town 400nm-500nm most high end coral vendors (wwc,Two guys coral, battlecoral)tend to peak in This spectrum. Thus the proven track record and success of ati t5 blue plus, 20k halide radiums, reef bright XHO,even actinic t5..if you want program your lights to be visually appealing (spectrum) while your home/after work (1-2 hours and then go back to bluer spectrum here's some good reference to that (skip to 5:40) https://youtu.be/iNS-clay-boaeZUI

Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CIRCLE10

In my opinion if you want to grow some nice coral , I'd stay/peak in the bluer side of town 400nm-500nm most high end coral vendors (wwc,Two guys coral, battlecoral)tend to peak in This spectrum. Thus the proven track record and success of ati t5 blue plus, 20k halide radiums, reef bright XHO,even actinic t5..if you want program your lights to be visually appealing (spectrum) while your home/after work (1-2 hours and then go back to bluer spectrum here's some good reference to that (skip to 5:40)https://youtu.be/iNS-clay-boaeZUI

I always use the blue spectrum, was just wondering how it transitions from one to another.

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:23 PM

That link doesn't seem to work for TT

Aaron

Works now!

CIRCLE10 · 09/25/2016, 12:36 PM

Sorry iPhone not linking to you tube ...skip to 5:40 @practical Red Sea 250 sps

bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 12:40 PM

I have also gone more blue alsosince I took that screen shot. only two steps up from all blue at peak. I have found better color and growth as well.

Aaron

mfaso24 · 09/25/2016, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor2j

Just had a little time to play with them yesterday and now out of town but have read others say theres no transition. There's transition in intensity. Hopefully someone can confirm

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I can confirm that there is no ramp, it just changes. But it's really quite a subtle diffference between each. But definitely noticeable if you happen to be looking at your tank when it changes.

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Thor2j · 09/25/2016, 03:10 PM

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I can confirm that there is no ramp, it just changes. But it's really quite a subtle diffference between each. But definitely noticeable if you happen to be looking at your tank when it changes.

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Thanks, that's what I thought but wasn't sure.

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bif24701 · 09/25/2016, 04:28 PM

I guess I don't see it. Or just not as sensitive to it.

Aaron

Trey302 · 09/29/2016, 10:52 AM

Just got a AP700 for my reefer 250. Haven't gotten it mounted yet so I have a question I'm hoping someone can help me with. Currently I'm using 2 a160we's on the tank at a peak of 85%. If the 700 is mounted about the same height above the water like I plan to do, what % would you start at for the new light? I was thinking starting around 40% max but not sure if that will be too much or not. Anyone got an idea of what % on the 700 would compare to 85% on the 160's?

Scorpius · 09/29/2016, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trey302

Just got a AP700 for my reefer 250. Haven't gotten it mounted yet so I have a question I'm hoping someone can help me with. Currently I'm using 2 a160we's on the tank at a peak of 85%. If the 700 is mounted about the same height above the water like I plan to do, what % would you start at for the new light? I was thinking starting around 40% max but not sure if that will be too much or not. Anyone got an idea of what % on the 700 would compare to 85% on the 160's?

You need a par meter.

vhuang168 · 09/29/2016, 12:44 PM

Start at 25% and let your corals get used to the light. Then bump it up till they are super happy

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Thor2j · 09/29/2016, 08:06 PM

I did some testing with 360s, start around 30% at most

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09/25/2016, 11:58 AM	#254
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	You can notice it? Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/25/2016, 12:02 PM	#256
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	I never notice any abrupt change. How far separated are your colors? To me they transition. Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/25/2016, 12:12 PM	#259
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Also, just ran the program play back and there certainly seems to be a transition in color. Even when the program runs quickly I don't notice abrupt changes. Then again, like I said, I'm not going from all white to all blue all at once. Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/25/2016, 12:21 PM	#264
CIRCLE10 Registered Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 105	In my opinion if you want to grow some nice coral , I'd stay/peak in the bluer side of town 400nm-500nm most high end coral vendors (wwc,Two guys coral, battlecoral)tend to peak in This spectrum. Thus the proven track record and success of ati t5 blue plus, 20k halide radiums, reef bright XHO,even actinic t5..if you want program your lights to be visually appealing (spectrum) while your home/after work (1-2 hours and then go back to bluer spectrum here's some good reference to that (skip to 5:40) https://youtu.be/iNS-clay-boaeZUI Last edited by CIRCLE10; 09/25/2016 at 12:26 PM.

09/25/2016, 12:23 PM	#266
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here! That link doesn't seem to work for TT Aaron Works now! __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/25/2016, 11:54 AM	#251
Thor2j Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 230	Any word if Kessil is going to update lights/app so there aren't just 9 blues but would be like radion. I realize u can add green and reds to them. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

09/25/2016, 12:15 PM	#262
Thor2j Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 230	I have but if it's a hard switch it's defiently noticeable. Was used to 360s on apex with full control Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk

09/25/2016, 12:36 PM	#267
CIRCLE10 Registered Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 105	Sorry iPhone not linking to you tube ...skip to 5:40 @practical Red Sea 250 sps

09/25/2016, 12:40 PM	#268
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	I have also gone more blue alsosince I took that screen shot. only two steps up from all blue at peak. I have found better color and growth as well. Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/25/2016, 04:28 PM	#271
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	I guess I don't see it. Or just not as sensitive to it. Aaron __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

09/29/2016, 10:52 AM	#272
Trey302 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 14	Just got a AP700 for my reefer 250. Haven't gotten it mounted yet so I have a question I'm hoping someone can help me with. Currently I'm using 2 a160we's on the tank at a peak of 85%. If the 700 is mounted about the same height above the water like I plan to do, what % would you start at for the new light? I was thinking starting around 40% max but not sure if that will be too much or not. Anyone got an idea of what % on the 700 would compare to 85% on the 160's?

09/29/2016, 12:44 PM	#274
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	Start at 25% and let your corals get used to the light. Then bump it up till they are super happy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

09/29/2016, 08:06 PM	#275
Thor2j Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 230	I did some testing with 360s, start around 30% at most Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk