240g tank w/fish room build - Page 4

Ted_C · 02/04/2015, 03:37 PM

I'll be running 2x Pac sun Pandora S on my 8 foot tank - that'll be 8 39w T5's and 4x 145W LED clusters.

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----x------x------ ----x------x------
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___ = 39 W T5
x = 145W LED Cluster.

edit: derp - this forum removes the spaces I have around the x's

Easttuth · 02/04/2015, 04:47 PM

After visiting many tanks lately, reading many articles, and looking at tank of the month type threads I've come to the opinion that anyone with exceptional growth with acros are running MHs. Many people have very nice looking tanks with T5s or LEDs but growth is best accomplished with MHs.

rogergolf66 · 02/05/2015, 01:44 PM

Ok so the skimmer seems broken in now. I think this is 2 or 3 days to break in. Each day the foam head gets larger. A quick vid

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...pstoahutmm.mp4

rogergolf66 · 02/05/2015, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easttuth

After visiting many tanks lately, reading many articles, and looking at tank of the month type threads I've come to the opinion that anyone with exceptional growth with acros are running MHs. Many people have very nice looking tanks with T5s or LEDs but growth is best accomplished with MHs.

I think I have decided on....

2 250w mH with 20k radium bulbs.
4t5 bulbs 60 inch.
2 72 inch reef bright 50/50 strips this will balance out the look to the eye.
1 or 2 72 inch blue led strips.

This is similar to my current sps display. It is 4ft x 2 ft on it I run

1 mH 20k radium bulb 250w.
Mix white and blue led supplemental lighting.
1 blue led strip.

So it will be almost the same but adding the 4 t5 bulbs along with it.

I'm about 80% this is what I will go with.

Roger

ChadRaay86 · 02/05/2015, 03:44 PM

Whats the total wattage on that bad boy?

rogergolf66 · 02/05/2015, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadRaay86

Whats the total wattage on that bad boy?

On the lighting or the skimmer?

Roger

ChadRaay86 · 02/05/2015, 04:41 PM

Lighting, haha. Sorry for the confusion. I'm adding T-5 supplements to my 300 and I was debating what route to go

rogergolf66 · 02/05/2015, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadRaay86

Lighting, haha. Sorry for the confusion. I'm adding T-5 supplements to my 300 and I was debating what route to go

2 mH = 500w
4x80w t5 = 320w
2 50/50 led strips = 108w
Blue led strips = 108w if I do 2 of them

Total. =1,036 watts about

I haven't decided what bulbs I will use for the t5 yet.

Maybe

2 actinic and 2 blue plus I'm not sure it will depend on how much blue the led put out on there own and how much white the mH put out. I will c what needs help the blue or white side. I'm thinking the 50/50 led with add the white and the led blue will take care of the blue side so I may end up with 4 actinic who knows. That part I will play around with.

Roger

rogergolf66 · 02/05/2015, 07:30 PM

Ok I now have the itech and the deltec skimmers running on the same system at the same time. I guess the battle begins

sirrealism · 02/06/2015, 09:22 AM

Looking forward to see the comparison.I know your running a itech 200. I have an Itech 400 for my 300g build. But in comparison your deltec is a monster. My Itech is like 1/2 the size of the deltec. I have a hard time believing that the itech 400 will work as well as the deltec. If My 400 was ready to go I would let you use it to make a real comparison but I need to take it to FAOIS and get new impellers for it and also get it tuned.

rogergolf66 · 02/06/2015, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirrealism

Looking forward to see the comparison.I know your running a itech 200. I have an Itech 400 for my 300g build. But in comparison your deltec is a monster. My Itech is like 1/2 the size of the deltec. I have a hard time believing that the itech 400 will work as well as the deltec. If My 400 was ready to go I would let you use it to make a real comparison but I need to take it to FAOIS and get new impellers for it and also get it tuned.

I've changed the sump design so I will have plenty of room for internal skimmer too. So we can do that experiment anytime if u want. Last time I checked it both had a nice head of foam but the neck size is about double on the deltec so the foam is much larger in the deltec. That being said the itech does seem to have slightly more bubbles packed into the skimmer per sq. inch... Just a visual observation.

Roger

ichthyman · 02/06/2015, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogergolf66

That being said the itech does seem to have slightly more bubbles packed into the skimmer per sq. inch... Just a visual observation.

That observation is correct.

rogergolf66 · 02/06/2015, 11:28 AM

John since u r here.... What's the best way to compare output.... Since I did my best to run them the same as far as wetness but what's the most accurate way to measure results....volume of skimate?

Rbs07fxstc · 02/06/2015, 01:20 PM

Man I dont know if that's a joke or serious with having to get a skimmer tuned. But that just sounds awesome. Lol WOW

ichthyman · 02/06/2015, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogergolf66

John since u r here.... What's the best way to compare output.... Since I did my best to run them the same as far as wetness but what's the most accurate way to measure results....volume of skimate?

At home, there is nothing that I would consider to be scientifically accurate. Just general observations of the skimate volume, density of color and pungentness of aroma. More concrete measurements of air and electrical draw can be easily made. Occasionally, you'll get a clear "winner" when one skimmer despite being tuned correctly doesn't collect anything while the other is producing just fine.

sirrealism · 02/06/2015, 02:07 PM

Roger I will get the skimmer down to john by next week and then we will test the 2. I think it would be a great test.

Easttuth · 02/06/2015, 04:09 PM

I can bring my BK 300 for a test if you would like as well

rogergolf66 · 02/06/2015, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easttuth

I can bring my BK 300 for a test if you would like as well

I would love that. Wait till the new sump is running that will leave plenty of room for skimmers

ChadRaay86 · 02/06/2015, 06:49 PM

John should bring out the super beast

rogergolf66 · 02/06/2015, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadRaay86

John should bring out the super beast

I think we all know who will win that one

rogergolf66 · 02/12/2015, 09:20 PM

Ok so looks like I might be able to pick up the wood for framing in the fish room this week!!!

Update on skimmers. They both have been running fine. I will measure the out put when I get time and take some pic of darkness of skimmate too

bigzman · 02/13/2015, 06:23 AM

Roger, with both skimmers now running has your ph increased? Are you still using c02 scrubber?

rogergolf66 · 02/13/2015, 10:58 AM

Ph has not changed. I am still running co2 scrubber on itech as always. Not running a co2 scrubber on deltec

rogergolf66 · 02/15/2015, 08:56 PM

Big thanks to Jeff jfoltz I think is the screen name. I was framing the wall for the new fish room today and he volunteered to come over and lend a hand much appreciated. 2 heads are always better then one and we (I) sure needed it a couple times. He made some problems much easier to fix! I will try and get pics up but they are on Melissa's phone. Jeff I hope the corals do well.

Thanks Jeff

And done

Electrical, insulation and drywall/plywood next. Haven't decided yet. If I do plywood it will be easy to hang stuff anywhere no stud needed. What's your thoughts?

Also had to empty the deltec skimmer tonight. It won this round vers the itech. It had about double the skim-mate at about the same color or even darker.

jfoltz · 02/15/2015, 08:58 PM

No problem anytime!

02/04/2015, 03:37 PM	#76
Ted_C Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Clearwater FL Posts: 1,923	I'll be running 2x Pac sun Pandora S on my 8 foot tank - that'll be 8 39w T5's and 4x 145W LED clusters. ______________ _____________ ______________ _____________ ----x------x------ ----x------x------ ______________ _____________ ______________ _____________ ___ = 39 W T5 x = 145W LED Cluster. edit: derp - this forum removes the spaces I have around the x's Last edited by Ted_C; 02/04/2015 at 03:38 PM. Reason: derp - it's removing extra spaces...

02/04/2015, 04:47 PM	#77
Easttuth Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Mount Dora Posts: 634	After visiting many tanks lately, reading many articles, and looking at tank of the month type threads I've come to the opinion that anyone with exceptional growth with acros are running MHs. Many people have very nice looking tanks with T5s or LEDs but growth is best accomplished with MHs. __________________ Build Thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2486203

02/05/2015, 01:44 PM	#78
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Ok so the skimmer seems broken in now. I think this is 2 or 3 days to break in. Each day the foam head gets larger. A quick vid http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...pstoahutmm.mp4 __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/05/2015, 03:44 PM	#80
ChadRaay86 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oldsmar, FL Posts: 1,560	Whats the total wattage on that bad boy? __________________ This tank has been without an Aiptasia event for (1) days Current Tank: 300DD, Radion G3 Pro, Octopus Diablo DC-250, 2x MP-60, 2x MP-40, Full Apex, Korallin C4002 calcium reactor

02/05/2015, 04:41 PM	#82
ChadRaay86 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oldsmar, FL Posts: 1,560	Lighting, haha. Sorry for the confusion. I'm adding T-5 supplements to my 300 and I was debating what route to go __________________ This tank has been without an Aiptasia event for (1) days Current Tank: 300DD, Radion G3 Pro, Octopus Diablo DC-250, 2x MP-60, 2x MP-40, Full Apex, Korallin C4002 calcium reactor

02/05/2015, 07:30 PM	#84
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Ok I now have the itech and the deltec skimmers running on the same system at the same time. I guess the battle begins __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/06/2015, 09:22 AM	#85
sirrealism Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hudson FL Posts: 1,249	Looking forward to see the comparison.I know your running a itech 200. I have an Itech 400 for my 300g build. But in comparison your deltec is a monster. My Itech is like 1/2 the size of the deltec. I have a hard time believing that the itech 400 will work as well as the deltec. If My 400 was ready to go I would let you use it to make a real comparison but I need to take it to FAOIS and get new impellers for it and also get it tuned. __________________ New build. 300g 8' tank. SPS dominant Current Tank Info: 150g mixed. 93g cube nem. 90g mixed. 40b softy

02/06/2015, 11:28 AM	#88
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	John since u r here.... What's the best way to compare output.... Since I did my best to run them the same as far as wetness but what's the most accurate way to measure results....volume of skimate? __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/06/2015, 01:20 PM	#89
Rbs07fxstc Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Bartow, Fla Posts: 425	Man I dont know if that's a joke or serious with having to get a skimmer tuned. But that just sounds awesome. Lol WOW

02/06/2015, 02:07 PM	#91
sirrealism Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hudson FL Posts: 1,249	Roger I will get the skimmer down to john by next week and then we will test the 2. I think it would be a great test. __________________ New build. 300g 8' tank. SPS dominant Current Tank Info: 150g mixed. 93g cube nem. 90g mixed. 40b softy

02/06/2015, 04:09 PM	#92
Easttuth Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Mount Dora Posts: 634	I can bring my BK 300 for a test if you would like as well __________________ Build Thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2486203

02/06/2015, 06:49 PM	#94
ChadRaay86 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oldsmar, FL Posts: 1,560	John should bring out the super beast __________________ This tank has been without an Aiptasia event for (1) days Current Tank: 300DD, Radion G3 Pro, Octopus Diablo DC-250, 2x MP-60, 2x MP-40, Full Apex, Korallin C4002 calcium reactor

02/12/2015, 09:20 PM	#96
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Ok so looks like I might be able to pick up the wood for framing in the fish room this week!!! Update on skimmers. They both have been running fine. I will measure the out put when I get time and take some pic of darkness of skimmate too __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/13/2015, 06:23 AM	#97
bigzman Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Tampa FL Posts: 2,807	Roger, with both skimmers now running has your ph increased? Are you still using c02 scrubber? __________________ 330g SPS - LED/T5 - EShopp S-300 Skimmer - 4 x Jebao PP20- reefkeeper elite Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef lps sps

02/13/2015, 10:58 AM	#98
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Ph has not changed. I am still running co2 scrubber on itech as always. Not running a co2 scrubber on deltec __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/15/2015, 08:56 PM	#99
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Big thanks to Jeff jfoltz I think is the screen name. I was framing the wall for the new fish room today and he volunteered to come over and lend a hand much appreciated. 2 heads are always better then one and we (I) sure needed it a couple times. He made some problems much easier to fix! I will try and get pics up but they are on Melissa's phone. Jeff I hope the corals do well. Thanks Jeff And done Electrical, insulation and drywall/plywood next. Haven't decided yet. If I do plywood it will be easy to hang stuff anywhere no stud needed. What's your thoughts? Also had to empty the deltec skimmer tonight. It won this round vers the itech. It had about double the skim-mate at about the same color or even darker. __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank. Last edited by rogergolf66; 02/15/2015 at 09:15 PM.

02/15/2015, 08:58 PM	#100
jfoltz Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: holiday fl Posts: 425	No problem anytime! __________________ 75 rimless reef ,custom 16 aio acrylic,24 gallon jbj and always looking for more