Plumber in the house?

chucklez · 12/15/2018, 04:51 PM

Ill be posting this in a few places to try to find someone who knows. My sump is in the basement. I can either run a waste water line 40' or so to my rough in, or I can go 5' or so to my sump basin. Thing is, my sump basin cover has 2 holes. One for a vent and one for discharge. Any reason NOT to drill a third hole, insert a smaller piece of pvc, silicone around it to prevent leakage, and alternate between a barb fitting (to attach a siphon hose) and a cap (when not in use)? Not a fan of running a long line to the rough in as someday there will be a bathroom down there.

Anyone have better ideas?

FullBoreReefer · 12/15/2018, 06:41 PM

I’ve always dumped mine down my sump basin. Drill a hole in the plastic sump lid, won’t hurt anything just watch were the pump wire is routed so you don’t hit that if you don’t remove the lid to drill.

No need to cap it, just install a ball valve then your hose barb, then your siphon hose. Open and close the valve when needed.

I never siliconed around my drain, but IF you are worried about leakage and want to do it “right”, get a cheapo bulkhead for going through the lid.

billdogg · 12/16/2018, 08:48 AM

I used the sump basin for all my waterchange waste water for 20+ years. To help keep the sump pump from having issues I always flushed some freshwater into it to rinse out the salt. I didn't want to take the chance that the salt would corrode it and end up having it fail when I really needed it. Worked like a charm. Now that I have a utility sink right next to the sump I dump it there instead.

chucklez · 12/21/2018, 08:46 AM

Sorry guys. Been busy at work and with family stuff. Im used to calling it a sump, but I guess technically it is an ejector pump. The rough in for the basement math dumps into there. Hence the sealed cover. The current pump I have in there I replaced after being in the house 12 years and replaced it with this model. I know the body is cast iron, and people say that salt water will corrode it, but I will also be running my RODI waste water into the pump as well, making 40-50g of RODI water a week.

The ejector pump discharges into the municipal sewage line, so it doesent dump it outside (if so my grass would be greener with all the fertilizer).

chucklez · 12/21/2018, 08:47 AM

So when I say run a line 40' or so to my basement bath rough in, it is still going to be discharging into the sump or ejector well.

Tom39 · 12/24/2018, 06:52 AM

If there is a sealed lid on the basin, I would not add another hole or entry point. Have you thought about cutting the drain line entering the basin and installing in a tee or wye as a drain point?
If you do decide to drill another hole in the basin lid, I would not do so without the use of a bulkhead fitting or at a minimum a Uniseal in an effort to make a permanent seal. Silicone is not going to seal the hole for the long-term and if the basin is under pressure of any degree, I would not be surprised if you did not eventually have a leak.

HIH,
Tom

12/15/2018, 04:51 PM	#1
chucklez Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: IL Posts: 1,405	Plumber in the house? Ill be posting this in a few places to try to find someone who knows. My sump is in the basement. I can either run a waste water line 40' or so to my rough in, or I can go 5' or so to my sump basin. Thing is, my sump basin cover has 2 holes. One for a vent and one for discharge. Any reason NOT to drill a third hole, insert a smaller piece of pvc, silicone around it to prevent leakage, and alternate between a barb fitting (to attach a siphon hose) and a cap (when not in use)? Not a fan of running a long line to the rough in as someday there will be a bathroom down there. Anyone have better ideas? __________________ Can't we just exist without conflict...HUMAN LIVES MATTER Current Tank Info: 150g

12/15/2018, 06:41 PM	#2
FullBoreReefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 1,862	I’ve always dumped mine down my sump basin. Drill a hole in the plastic sump lid, won’t hurt anything just watch were the pump wire is routed so you don’t hit that if you don’t remove the lid to drill. No need to cap it, just install a ball valve then your hose barb, then your siphon hose. Open and close the valve when needed. I never siliconed around my drain, but IF you are worried about leakage and want to do it “right”, get a cheapo bulkhead for going through the lid. __________________ 60x36x24 mixed reef. 40b sump. Regal 250int Varios. 4xHydra26HDs+t5s. 4xMp40wes. Apex2016.

12/16/2018, 08:48 AM	#3
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	I used the sump basin for all my waterchange waste water for 20+ years. To help keep the sump pump from having issues I always flushed some freshwater into it to rinse out the salt. I didn't want to take the chance that the salt would corrode it and end up having it fail when I really needed it. Worked like a charm. Now that I have a utility sink right next to the sump I dump it there instead. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

12/21/2018, 08:46 AM	#4
chucklez Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: IL Posts: 1,405	Sorry guys. Been busy at work and with family stuff. Im used to calling it a sump, but I guess technically it is an ejector pump. The rough in for the basement math dumps into there. Hence the sealed cover. The current pump I have in there I replaced after being in the house 12 years and replaced it with this model. I know the body is cast iron, and people say that salt water will corrode it, but I will also be running my RODI waste water into the pump as well, making 40-50g of RODI water a week. The ejector pump discharges into the municipal sewage line, so it doesent dump it outside (if so my grass would be greener with all the fertilizer). __________________ Can't we just exist without conflict...HUMAN LIVES MATTER Current Tank Info: 150g

12/21/2018, 08:47 AM	#5
chucklez Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: IL Posts: 1,405	So when I say run a line 40' or so to my basement bath rough in, it is still going to be discharging into the sump or ejector well. __________________ Can't we just exist without conflict...HUMAN LIVES MATTER Current Tank Info: 150g

12/24/2018, 06:52 AM	#6
Tom39 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Spotsylvania, Virginia Posts: 435	If there is a sealed lid on the basin, I would not add another hole or entry point. Have you thought about cutting the drain line entering the basin and installing in a tee or wye as a drain point? If you do decide to drill another hole in the basin lid, I would not do so without the use of a bulkhead fitting or at a minimum a Uniseal in an effort to make a permanent seal. Silicone is not going to seal the hole for the long-term and if the basin is under pressure of any degree, I would not be surprised if you did not eventually have a leak. HIH, Tom __________________ 150g cube, 40g sump, Rapid led, Neptune controller, LR, sandbed, ATS, PS Current Tank Info: 150g Marineland Cube