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Old 11/09/2018, 09:28 AM   #1
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Question Good heater

I've got a 60 gal. cube with a 15 gal sump. I've been through a few of the eheim heaters in the past few years and am tired of replacing them. Whats a desecent quality heater I can buy? my budget will be around $100+


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Old 11/09/2018, 09:39 AM   #2
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Do you have a controller? If so, I like the 300 watt Finnex titanium heating tubes. They donít have their own thermostat, so a controller will be necessary. If youíre looking for an integrated unit, I also like the Aqueon Pro heaters... I think the 200 watt version would suffice for your tank size.

All heaters though, whether it be just the heating element or integrated unit should have an independent 3rd party controller for redundancy, be it a full controller like an Apex or just a temperature controller, like a Ranco.


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Old 11/09/2018, 09:55 AM   #3
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Do you have a controller? If so, I like the 300 watt Finnex titanium heating tubes. They donít have their own thermostat, so a controller will be necessary. If youíre looking for an integrated unit, I also like the Aqueon Pro heaters... I think the 200 watt version would suffice for your tank size.



All heaters though, whether it be just the heating element or integrated unit should have an independent 3rd party controller for redundancy, be it a full controller like an Apex or just a temperature controller, like a Ranco.


I use a ranco and Apex to control my heating. Never to much redundancy.


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Old 11/09/2018, 11:36 AM   #4
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They all fail..
In general Eheim Jager is commonly recommended but they fail too..

What I always recommend is to never fully submerse them (do not put the knob/temp control part under water even if they state fully submersible..
Its that joint from glass tube to plastic top/cap/dial that can/will fail..

There is not a single brand or model that has not/will not fail..


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Old 11/09/2018, 07:38 PM   #5
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They all fail..
In general Eheim Jager is commonly recommended but they fail too..

What I always recommend is to never fully submerse them (do not put the knob/temp control part under water even if they state fully submersible..
Its that joint from glass tube to plastic top/cap/dial that can/will fail..

There is not a single brand or model that has not/will not fail..
I have a hand full of Eheim Jagers most recent is 1 year, oldest is more than 10, none of mine has failed........yet.....but absolutely I support controller for heater.


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Old 11/09/2018, 11:49 PM   #6
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They all fail..
In general Eheim Jager is commonly recommended but they fail too..

What I always recommend is to never fully submerse them (do not put the knob/temp control part under water even if they state fully submersible..
Its that joint from glass tube to plastic top/cap/dial that can/will fail..

There is not a single brand or model that has not/will not fail..
In the past 40 years, I have lost more fish to stuck heaters than every other reason combined. Ebo jagers were the only reliable heaters.

I was telling this to my step daughter 20 years ago when she told me the heater in her tank simply said "Jagar", not "Ebo Jagar." Sure enough, it failed.

Why in hell did they stop making the only reliable heater on the market?

I must concur with mcgyvr. With every word he said. And it's a damn shame, too, since Ebo jagers really were pretty much perfect.


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Old 11/10/2018, 04:44 PM   #7
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Schego titanium heaters on this side of the pond along with a temp controller

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Old 11/10/2018, 06:44 PM   #8
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I found a BNIB Ebo Jager at Goodwill, it is a green model.


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Old 11/12/2018, 09:13 AM   #9
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if you don't have a controller then I would recommend the finnex with digital controller.


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Old 11/12/2018, 09:48 AM   #10
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I've never heard of keeping the top part of a Ebo Jager out of water. I don't understand the logic behind this.


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I found a BNIB Ebo Jager at Goodwill, it is a green model.
I wish I could. I'd kill for one


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I've never heard of keeping the top part of a Ebo Jager out of water. I don't understand the logic behind this.
A friend of mine began doing that with all submersibles. He reasoned that was where leaks began, so he kept that part out of the water.


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A friend of mine began doing that with all submersibles. He reasoned that was where leaks began, so he kept that part out of the water.
Interesting. Unfortunately my sump level is not deep enough to place the heater vertical.


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Interesting. Unfortunately my sump level is not deep enough to place the heater vertical.
Angle it.


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I've got the 10yr old, analog version of this one... been very happy with it, but no idea if the current models are as good.




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Old Yesterday, 11:09 PM   #16
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I had ViaAquas in a customer's cichlid tank. The whole tanks was wiped out - we're talking several hundred dollars worth of Africans. I didn't see them stick, but they would not work afterward. It was a crazy, borderline psycho customer to boot, one I always wanted to quit but paid me too much to do so. She looked like one of those old "Troll" dolls with the pig face and frizzy hair. I called her "Pig-face troll doll."

When they first came out, I thought they were the answer to my prayers, but I had ALL the titanium heaters go bad, and I had a good number of them.


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+1 on the controller, I got one on amazon last year and I've never looked back. Since then my temperature hasn't varied by more than a degree. My heater has a built in thermostat but I have it set to higher than my controller so my controller does all the work.


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+1 on the controller, I got one on amazon last year and I've never looked back. Since then my temperature hasn't varied by more than a degree. My heater has a built in thermostat but I have it set to higher than my controller so my controller does all the work.
Not to hijack the thread too much.. is there a "best" way to setup a heater/controller combo?

Should the heater thermostat do most of the work and the controller kick in only if the heater malfunctions... or should the controller do most of the work more or less ignoring the heater thermostat?


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