Dinoflagellates.

[Royce7586]

I had strings like 5 to 6 inchs long in my tank now no strings.

Note the does im using is alot higher then their initial reccommend dosages but the bottle says increase does 50% to 100% as needed... I think im around 75% the initial dose twice a day

[Royce7586]

The active ingredient in Kordon Ich Attack is Naphthoquinone.

I found this on wikipedia

Naphthoquinone derivatives have significant pharmacological properties. They are cytotoxic, they have significant antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral, insecticidal, anti-inflammatory, and antipyretic properties. Plants with naphthoquinone content are widely used in China and the countries of South America, where they are used to treat malignant and parasitic diseases

[Montireef]

What kind of dinoflagellates do you have? It's very important to id them beforehand.

There are many remedies for some dinos such as amphidinum or prorocentrum but none for others.

[Royce7586]

I don't have any way of identifying the exact kind. I can say that nothing else was effected by the kordon ich attack so it should be safe for someone else to try it out. With that said I don't have any anemones or clams in my tank atm just corals and fish neither were effected in the slightest corals look better and better everyday!

If I had to guess I would say I have osteoprosis due to that fact that I have tried literally every other treatment in this entire thread on mine other then the pond UVs some people are running

[mfaso24]

Originally Posted by Royce7586

I don't have any way of identifying the exact kind. I can say that nothing else was effected by the kordon ich attack so it should be safe for someone else to try it out. With that said I don't have any anemones or clams in my tank atm just corals and fish neither were effected in the slightest corals look better and better everyday!

If I had to guess I would say I have osteoprosis due to that fact that I have tried literally every other treatment in this entire thread on mine other then the pond UVs some people are running

Well looks like my Dino's are coming back. Looks like I may have to resort to this or hydrogen peroxide. Any advice? By the way I do have a few anemones in my reef.

[Royce7586]

The bottle says its safe for anemones I would probably try a small dose and see what it looks like.

In the anemone forum I was told the hydrogen peroxide I dose was what was causing my anemones to slowly die so I took them out and have them in their own 10g right now while I continue the battle with my dinos.

[mfaso24]

Can you tell me exactly how you dose kordon? Amount per gallon? Do you turn off equipment like skimmer?

[mfaso24]

Is this it?? If so, it says dinoflagelettes right on the bottle!

[jedimasterben]

Originally Posted by mfaso24

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/23/0de17dce47243c028500e4bac8221a23.jpg
Is this it?? If so, it says dinoflagelettes right on the bottle!

The fish parasites it claims to kill (it doesn't) are dinoflagellates.

[Montireef]

Have you tried with ostreopsis?

[mfaso24]

Originally Posted by Royce7586

I had strings like 5 to 6 inchs long in my tank now no strings.



Note the does im using is alot higher then their initial reccommend dosages but the bottle says increase does 50% to 100% as needed... I think im around 75% the initial dose twice a day

Are these the kinds of strings you get?
This is a top down view from the bubble stopper on my protein skimmer.

[Royce7586]

They look like brown snot strings bascially, I had them covering my entire back wall and everywhere else. If you siphon them out they break up into small brown dots but if you leave them for a few minutes in the container you siphoned them into they will regroup into the strings again.

Weather you want to believe me or not on the Kordon Ich Attack is up to you but if you've tried everything else and its not working please try it.

I currently dose about 1 shot glass ~44ml or so during the day and 1 shot glass at night. I think that would be like .8ml to gallon dosage twice a day.

[mfaso24]

Originally Posted by Royce7586

They look like brown snot strings bascially, I had them covering my entire back wall and everywhere else. If you siphon them out they break up into small brown dots but if you leave them for a few minutes in the container you siphoned them into they will regroup into the strings again.

Weather you want to believe me or not on the Kordon Ich Attack is up to you but if you've tried everything else and its not working please try it.

I currently dose about 1 shot glass ~44ml or so during the day and 1 shot glass at night. I think that would be like .8ml to gallon dosage twice a day.

Hm that's odd, my "strings" don't break up. I can actually go in with a tweezer and pull out the string whole.

[mfaso24]

I may try the ich treatment though since hydrogen peroxide scares me a bit more than I'm comfortable with.

[Royce7586]

Ya that is true I can pull mine out as well. There seem to be the ones that are stronger like that but my tank also has them where they are arnt as solid as that. Try siphoning some into a bucket, Some will gather on the bottom of the bucket but the other single dots type ones will stay floating and if you let them sit for a bit they usually start gathering together into new strings

I'm dosing peroxide at the same time as the ich attack, I've been dosing peroxide for months ich attack not for very long. So not sure if the peroxide makes a difference or not but I do know that anemones dont like peroxide

[mfaso24]

Originally Posted by Royce7586

Ya that is true I can pull mine out as well. There seem to be the ones that are stronger like that but my tank also has them where they are arnt as solid as that. Try siphoning some into a bucket, Some will gather on the bottom of the bucket but the other single dots type ones will stay floating and if you let them sit for a bit they usually start gathering together into new strings

I'm dosing peroxide at the same time as the ich attack, I've been dosing peroxide for months ich attack not for very long. So not sure if the peroxide makes a difference or not but I do know that anemones dont like peroxide

Yeah the anemone is the reason I want to avoid. But you said you noticed results as soon as you started he ich attack right?

Also, have you done anything different regarding water changes? More? Same or stopped completely as some have suggested.

[Royce7586]

Ya I noticed a for sure improvement the day after the first dose of ich attack.

I siphon out about 5 gallons of dinos every 2 days and put about 3.5g of that water back in after filtering it through paper towels 2 layers of paper towels seems to work well. I would add all the water back in but the last couple gallons is really saturated with dinos so I fill the rest with new water. Water changes defiantly make the dinos bloom more but the small amount I change through this process doesn't seem to have as bad of an effect as larger changes does.

I also use a credit card to scrape as much them off the walls as possible. If your careful and turn your pumps off and scrape straight up it usually almost all comes up with the credit card

I've been keeping my skimmer on during treatment as my nitrates are a bit higher then I like them so I'm not sure what effect turning it off would have while dosing.

I have no carbon, gfo, or purgien or anything like that

[mfaso24]

Looks like I'm gonna try to grab some ich attack and give this a try.

[Royce7586]

i would just try a couple small doses first to see how the anemones react before upping to the dosages i described.

I got mine at petco fyi

[mfaso24]

Can't wait for the day they have a solid chemical reef safe cure for this stupid beast of a pest.

[bertoni]

Finally a possible positive value for a marine ich medication. I hope it works.

[Royce7586]

Came home today and my tank looks GREAT! first time in months that I haven't looked into it with a feeling of dread.

I honestly cant say if it is the ich attack for sure but from the week ago I started dosing it my tank keeps getting better and better

[Montireef]

It seems that parvilucifera finally got rid of my ostreopsis problem. I keep some of it to share with whoever needs it (or just myself if it comes back).

Now I have a slight amphidinium problem, another kind of dino which is easier to deal with. I think I'm going to try the Kordon way and check if it works. Corals seem to start thriving again.

[cal_stir]

Originally Posted by Montireef

It seems that parvilucifera finally got rid of my ostreopsis problem. I keep some of it to share with whoever needs it (or just myself if it comes back).

Now I have a slight amphidinium problem, another kind of dino which is easier to deal with. I think I'm going to try the Kordon way and check if it works. Corals seem to start thriving again.

That's great news, if not for the microscope I can't tell if I have dinos.
Keep us posted.

[DNA]

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