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02/21/2018, 06:51 PM | #1 |
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Sick tang need sickness identity
Hey everyone. Have a sick tang and am not sure what it is. I’m converting over from freshwater discus and am very new to saltwater fish. This powder blue is doing a lot of hiding and isn’t eating. Been doing it for 2days now. I noticed today this discoloring on its left side face and cheek. Of course my first thought is that there is a problem. Can anyone help ID this disease/sickness and recommend treatment? The only meds I have on hand is Furan 2. Worked miracles on discus.
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02/21/2018, 06:52 PM | #2 |
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The picture turned out horrible. I’ll try to get a better one. It’s really hard, that PBT doesn’t wanna come out from the rock work
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02/21/2018, 07:03 PM | #3 |
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This one is a little better
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02/21/2018, 07:51 PM | #4 |
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Need more info. New fish or old? Any other fish in the Aquarium? Was he eating and normal before?
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02/21/2018, 08:09 PM | #5 |
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Agree. We need more tank and age info.
You should have seaweed select attached to a rock at least 2 to 3 times a week for all tangs. |
02/21/2018, 08:12 PM | #6 |
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It is a new addition. Been a week in the DT. It’s the only fish in the DT. Tank has been running a year now no problems. Had a miniatus grouper but removed it for the tang. Few inverts, feather duster, and corals. Was eating like a hog. Started acting funny yesterday. Pecked at some food today but still in hiding. Did notice a little bit of scratching first day but none sense. Today I noticed a slight discoloration as seen in the photo and started to worry a bit.
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02/21/2018, 08:19 PM | #8 |
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What was it eating? Have you ever had a tang?
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02/21/2018, 08:23 PM | #9 |
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02/21/2018, 08:25 PM | #10 |
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Spend the extra money and get seaweed select. It has garlic (highly debated) but I believe in it. Helps with appitite ank keep immune system up. Prime reef is good.
Seaweed is so important for tangs. My yellow tang is 20 years old and cream Angel 23 yrs old. I think this seaweed helps verse other variations. Green is better liked. |
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02/21/2018, 08:36 PM | #12 |
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Powder blues are not the easiest of tangs. I am thinking the color loss is due to bad nutrition. I feed my fish prime reef, but my tangs stomach gets pinched in if you don't feed it seaweed. Tangs are constantly grazing.
Hard to tell right now on the fish status. Keep us posted. |
02/21/2018, 09:21 PM | #13 |
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I did want to note that I did NOT quarantine the PBT before adding to the DT. I don’t know if this matters on diagnosis. I ordered from Liveaquaria. During drip acclimation “he” looked great and healthily so I dunked him.
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02/22/2018, 07:38 AM | #14 |
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This thread should help you. Read the 2nd and 3rd post in the link, sounds similar.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ht=powder+blue |
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02/22/2018, 08:21 AM | #16 |
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Just do a search on powder blues. There is a lot of stuff out there. Research, Research, Research and seeing the warning signs early is key. Once a fish stops eating it is normally the end.
http://www.animaldiscoveryonline.com/powder-blue-tang/ |
02/22/2018, 04:29 PM | #17 |
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To me it looks like the fish scraped it's face on the rocks. Usually this will clear up quickly.
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02/22/2018, 07:00 PM | #18 |
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Well OhsCC I took your advice and dug in a little after work this afternoon and noticed some things I needed to do.
First is temp and salinity. My tank is 74 so I bumped the heater to 78. My salinity sits around 1.023-1.025 depending. I mix at 1.025. just tested the tank and it’s at 1.023. I read a few things on salinity and the recommendations were 1.027. Don’t know. Opinions? Also read to skin wet. I usually skim dry but I’ll try a little wetter skim. And an update on the PBT.... haven’t seen “him” at all this afternoon. Didnt come out to great me like he did a week ago. Didn’t even come out to take a look. With a flash light I can see his tailing moving around in his little pocket in the rock work but other than that...nothing. |
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Most refers keep the salt at 1.024 to 1.026. The salt and temperature are not the problem.
Fish can go much lower, but do not like fluctuations. LA keeps theirs at 1.018 to keep more disease out. Keep them constant. At this point not coming out and not eating is not promising. |
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I’ll just wait it out I guess. I wish I knew what it is causing this though. All my ammonia and nitrates are 0 out. PH is a little low. Around 7.8-8.0. I’m totally lost on this one. |
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02/23/2018, 12:22 AM | #22 |
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I am suspect of a wait it out and see approach.
Unfortunately in this hobby that often results in the loss of a fish. I think you need to do a freshwater dip on this fish and check for flukes. Once a fish stops eating after it was eating it is a bad sign. Many problems occur a week or more after you acquire the fish. If you ordered from live aquaria they ship direct from a wholesaler unless you go through divers den. Then you're often only 2 to 3 weeks removed from the wholesaler. You really need to QT in copper, chloroquine phosphate, or tank transfer method. Then treat with prazi for flukes. We deal with so many pests and diseases it is ridiculous. Try to use a black or dark colored bucket. Use RODI, temp adjusted to your tank, PH adjusted to your tank with baking soda. Aerate the water. Dip the fish for 3 to 5 minutes. Look for white spots that look like rice grains after the dip. If nothing shows you may want to start treatment with copper or chloroquine in a QT tank.
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02/23/2018, 01:43 PM | #23 |
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I agree with above.they are usually really active and if your is hiding thats not a good sign.
Couple of questions: 1.what are you water parameters? ammonia zero? 2.what type of water circulation you have in the tank? good oxygen exchange? tangs need a water rich in oxygen. 3. how did you acclimate the fish? I would do a 5 min fw dip and confirm you are not dealing with flukes:
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2. 2X Current USA wave pumps (lots of flow), they are pointed so that they do turn the surface water. Not sure if this answers your oxygen exchange question. 3. Drip acclimate. PBT was doing great the first 3-4 days. 3 days ago he began hiding |
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02/23/2018, 06:14 PM | #25 |
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This morning I woke up and checked the tank. The PBT was out of the rock work laying on its side. Not good at all. Very heavy breathing. Gave me a chance to net him. I put him in a freshwater dip and then in a qt with prazi but it was way to late. He died late this afternoon. The PBT did have flukes. At least I suspect. There was some weird tiny little white tadpole looking things in the freshwater.
So....now my question. How the heck did flukes kill him so fast? I guess I’m not used to that. Discus would show signs for days. At least gave my some time to react. Then again may not have been, maybe something I did. I just don’t know. Does anyone run prazi and something like furan2 during the QT for new arrivals? I used to do both with new discus arrivals. |
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