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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:23 AM   #2201
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What system are you using for your auto water changes.

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Unread 11/14/2017, 09:04 AM   #2202
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What system are you using for your auto water changes.

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It runs the heads 150x per day, for just a minute or two.
Total daily volume is around 2.25g or so.


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Unread 11/14/2017, 03:52 PM   #2203
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So Dennis, are you still trying to maintain your levels near NSW. 7-7.5alk, and zeros elsewhere?

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Unread 11/14/2017, 04:05 PM   #2204
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So Dennis, are you still trying to maintain your levels near NSW. 7-7.5alk, and zeros elsewhere?

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Zeros?
I try to stay around 8.0 Alk which is what I did with Triton. I feel it gives me more wiggle room if it was to drop by .5 - 1 dkh by accident.
Calc follows suit.
Mag around 1300 give or take.

Nitrate around 2 if I can. Higher is fine but I have trouble maintaining it.
p04 I don't worry much about. .2 - 1.0 is fine with me, or even a little higher.


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Unread 11/14/2017, 04:13 PM   #2205
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I should have specified zeros in n03 and p04 as many who try to emulate NSW want to keep them around those numbers.

I think how you're doing it is better though, a little wiggle room in case something unforeseen happens and numbers change.

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Unread 11/14/2017, 04:34 PM   #2206
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ya ya ya.... can't do zero there... that's what got me in trouble!

Sometimes there's a difference between our tanks vs the ocean.
That's a big one.
Coral need food so gotta have some nutrients in there.


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Unread 11/14/2017, 04:58 PM   #2207
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Zeros?
I try to stay around 8.0 Alk which is what I did with Triton. I feel it gives me more wiggle room if it was to drop by .5 - 1 dkh by accident.
Calc follows suit.
Mag around 1300 give or take.

Nitrate around 2 if I can. Higher is fine but I have trouble maintaining it.
p04 I don't worry much about. .2 - 1.0 is fine with me, or even a little higher.
Have you tried dosing nitrate specifically to up your numbers?


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Unread 11/14/2017, 05:37 PM   #2208
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Have you tried dosing nitrate specifically to up your numbers?
Yup, but I'd rather do it with feeding a bit more and more fish/fish poop.
I have a bottle of mixed stump remover for emergencies.


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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:16 PM   #2209
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Always enjoy your threads and your attention to detail. Great looking tank.
That's not a typo though, .2 - 1.0 for p04? Nothing crazy about those numbers. If anything it makes me feel a little better about my p04 stats haha.
Also, are the radions staying for good or is a surprise in store?
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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:24 PM   #2210
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Always enjoy your threads and your attention to detail. Great looking tank.
That's not a typo though, .2 - 1.0 for p04? Nothing crazy about those numbers. If anything it makes me feel a little better about my p04 stats haha.
Also, are the radions staying for good or is a surprise in store?
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Yep, as long as I'm not seeing algae, I'm not stressing over p04.
The radions are still going strong. Actually, need to see if I can eventually get those diffusers that BRS showed us recently.


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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:35 PM   #2211
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Yep, as long as I'm not seeing algae, I'm not stressing over p04.
The radions are still going strong. Actually, need to see if I can eventually get those diffusers that BRS showed us recently.
I had no3 at 60ppm+ & po4 at 3.0ppm + once upon a time. Didn't know it - bad test kits. Had no real algae issues at this time, but when I got those parameters back down to near zero, coralline algae growth, which had been non-existant, took off big time.


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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:49 PM   #2212
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I agree Dennis, I'd rather have n03 and p04 from feeding, fish poop verse zeroing everything out then dosing to control them. In my book, that's closes any chance at accidents or swings.

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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:50 PM   #2213
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Yep, as long as I'm not seeing algae, I'm not stressing over p04.
The radions are still going strong. Actually, need to see if I can eventually get those diffusers that BRS showed us recently.
I think they're for sell in December?


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Unread 11/14/2017, 08:53 PM   #2214
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GHL Doser 2.1
It runs the heads 150x per day, for just a minute or two.
Total daily volume is around 2.25g or so.
I tried using my Neptune DOS doing daily AWC before getting my GHL Doser but had a problem with conductivity drift over time. I was relying too heavily on my conductivity probe which is very inaccurate. I think air bubbles in the sump was interfering with the probe's connections and causing an inaccurate measurement. I have been monitoring my GHL Conductivity Probe and it seems to keep a more stable/correct measurement for some reason.

With your AWC setup what do you do to ensure little to no drift? Are you even using or relying on the conductivity probe or are you just measuring with a refractometer?


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Unread 11/14/2017, 09:45 PM   #2215
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I tried using my Neptune DOS doing daily AWC before getting my GHL Doser but had a problem with conductivity drift over time. I was relying too heavily on my conductivity probe which is very inaccurate. I think air bubbles in the sump was interfering with the probe's connections and causing an inaccurate measurement. I have been monitoring my GHL Conductivity Probe and it seems to keep a more stable/correct measurement for some reason.

With your AWC setup what do you do to ensure little to no drift? Are you even using or relying on the conductivity probe or are you just measuring with a refractometer?
Usually the conductivity probe.
But lately I've been noticing my 5 year old probe has been reading low (even after calibrating) so I'm using the refractometer as backup. But as long as I know where it should be, the probe tends to read very consistently.


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Unread 11/15/2017, 08:42 AM   #2216
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Are your Radions still placed 16 inches above the water at 85% intensity?


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Unread 11/15/2017, 10:21 AM   #2217
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Are your Radions still placed 16 inches above the water at 85% intensity?
17" and the overall intensity is 70%.


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Unread 11/15/2017, 11:48 PM   #2218
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17" and the overall intensity is 70%.
Thanks! I have my radions 16" over at 85% and I'm finding that it's not enough to colour up my higher end corals based on discussion over at the other forum - my Walt Disney and Homewrecker are showing "mid-light" colours and not the rainbows they're well known for


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Unread 11/16/2017, 03:12 AM   #2219
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It runs the heads 150x per day, for just a minute or two.
Total daily volume is around 2.25g or so.
Do you find that is better than having it run for an hour or a few hours constantly? I am using ghl also changing about 1gpd in a 110g total volume system


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Unread 11/16/2017, 07:06 AM   #2220
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Thanks! I have my radions 16" over at 85% and I'm finding that it's not enough to colour up my higher end corals based on discussion over at the other forum - my Walt Disney and Homewrecker are showing "mid-light" colours and not the rainbows they're well known for
Very interesting!
I hadn't heard that light intensity dictated color like that. So are you going push more power?
I'm going by what BRS and some reefers I know personally have found which is PAR under LED should be around the mid 200's.


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Unread 11/16/2017, 07:08 AM   #2221
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Do you find that is better than having it run for an hour or a few hours constantly? I am using ghl also changing about 1gpd in a 110g total volume system
Probably no real difference either way, but I figure it's more like a constant water change this way, kinda like the ocean. And it's less wear and tear on the doser. The rollers are plastic and they got hot during continuous runs. When they get hot they are more apt to wear down. At least that has been my experience in the past with other dosers.


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Unread 11/16/2017, 07:34 AM   #2222
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The rollers are plastic and they got hot during continuous runs. When they get hot they are more apt to wear down. At least that has been my experience in the past with other dosers.
That's a worthwhile consideration. How do you handle topoff though?

I run mine for an hour in the morning and use the profilux to disable topoff while the water is being removed and refilled from saltwater container so it doesn't automatically start adding freshwater when the level drops. then when that is finished i reactivate topoff.


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That's a worthwhile consideration. How do you handle topoff though?

I run mine for an hour in the morning and use the profilux to disable topoff while the water is being removed and refilled from saltwater container so it doesn't automatically start adding freshwater when the level drops. then when that is finished i reactivate topoff.
Easy! The amount being changed out is so little it doesn't affect top-off.

On my old 200g tank, I used to use the AWC programming in GHL, using two level sensors and two small hobby pumps, and later I switched to a dual head Masterflex pump. It did exactly what you are doing with the ATO shut-off. But no need to do that when using a doser and swapping out such small amounts of water.


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Unread 11/16/2017, 09:54 AM   #2224
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Man, I read your thread and it sure seemed like the Triton method failed for you and you gave up and switched back to basic Berlin. You even sold your custom Triton-method sump less than a year in.

Do you mind elaborating why you abandoned Triton?


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Unread 11/16/2017, 10:30 AM   #2225
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Man, I read your thread and it sure seemed like the Triton method failed for you and you gave up and switched back to basic Berlin. You even sold your custom Triton-method sump less than a year in.

Do you mind elaborating why you abandoned Triton?
I need to start putting this info in my sig. Getting tired of typing it. lol

Nutrients dropped to zero, thus the tank could no longer support the massive brick of cheato (that Triton told me not to trim back) and it started dying off and wouldn't stop. Even after I realized why this was happening. So all those nutrients went back into the tank, along with the refugium food that was being dosed daily as part of the Triton Elements. BOOM. Massive outbreak of brown snot algae that I fought for a few months before throwing in the towel and restarting.

In the end, I just didn't see the point of triton. Why do that when I was fine running a standard Berlin system that was basically just like Triton but involved water changes? I usually run a daily auto water change setup anyway. The only thing I'm missing is maybe some minor trace elements, that even Triton isn't sure what benefits there might be?

My setup with the AWC, Protein Skimmer, decent sized Refugium and Calcium Reactor is simpler and safer, in my experience.


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