Sailfin deep gouge

karimwassef · 10/16/2017, 08:01 PM

He's eating and swimming fine but this is the deepest gouge I've seen. The discoloration around it is also uncommon.

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lionfish300 · 10/16/2017, 10:05 PM

Do you think it got slash by another tank?

karimwassef · 10/16/2017, 11:56 PM

Might have been the rabbitfish

Horace · 10/17/2017, 12:36 PM

Prob why they call them surgeon fish.....

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Tripod1404 · 10/17/2017, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Horace

Prob why they call them surgeon fish.....

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I dont thing a rabbitfish can make a cut that clean. Do you have any other tangs? I have seen them cutting other fish similar to your picture.

karimwassef · 10/17/2017, 01:23 PM

It's full of tangs but he's the biggest after a very docile old hippo.

The video shows them all.

karimwassef · 10/17/2017, 01:24 PM

Wonder if I shouldn't de-claw all my tangs... they've lived together for years

karimwassef · 10/17/2017, 01:26 PM

Discoloration mean anything or just normal bruising?

Tripod1404 · 10/17/2017, 06:11 PM

The location of the wound looks very much like a tang cut. When tangs fight the aling next to each other (facing opposite ways) and try to hit the other fish with their tail-razors. Most of the time they cant land a clear deep cut, but I have seen it happening. So the suspect is probably a tang that is slight smaller than it, since the wound is not on the head

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Discoloration is probably is just chromatophores (color changing cells) reacting to the very close wound, either due to inflammation, swelling or maybe because the neurons near them are damaged or the connection is cut. Sailfins can get pretty dark if they want to and that part looks pretty close to that color. So that is why I think it is just a color change.

karimwassef · 10/17/2017, 07:18 PM

would it return to normal after healing? I guess we'll find out

der_wille_zur_macht · 10/17/2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by karimwassef

would it return to normal after healing? I guess we'll find out

The tang is probably hoping it doesn't. After all, what's the use of a wound if it doesn't leave a battle scar with which you can impress the ladies?

karimwassef · 10/17/2017, 08:40 PM

could take him out and stitch it up to be more scar-like! j/k

der_wille_zur_macht · 10/18/2017, 04:52 AM

Next thing, he'll be listening to rock and roll and getting tattoos!

ReefMaster48 · 10/18/2017, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by der_wille_zur_macht

The tang is probably hoping it doesn't. After all, what's the use of a wound if it doesn't leave a battle scar with which you can impress the ladies?

+1

And it looks like he's eating fine... lol He'll be alright!

Shia · 10/18/2017, 12:34 PM

That does look a bit deep. My biggest concern would be some kind of bacterial infection. The more he eats the better off you are. I am always astonished with how fast fish heal from skirmishes with each other.

If you start suspecting an infection brewing then hospital tank with antibiotics.

davocean · 10/18/2017, 08:58 PM

Sure looks like a tail spike, other tangs may be smaller or less aggressive but it does not mean a tang won't strike if he was picking at them.
It should heal.

kmbyrnes · 10/19/2017, 07:34 AM

My tangs give as good as they get.
It'll heal and like others have said, it will impress the ladies.
Just watch out for infection.

karimwassef · 10/30/2017, 11:53 PM

ok.. he's healed up

nereefpat · 10/31/2017, 07:53 AM

Good to hear. That was a nasty cut on a prized fish.

karimwassef · 10/31/2017, 08:46 AM

Now he's going to have a prison scar to show off! You can still see it when he turn facing right ... like a slightly indented ridge...

sde1500 · 10/31/2017, 09:36 AM

That was a pretty quick healing, that's good!

karimwassef · 10/31/2017, 11:36 AM

With a massive tank move coming up in a couple of weeks, it's good to get everyone in peak shape.

lionfish300 · 10/31/2017, 09:45 PM

Cool to see hem all heal up. Good luck with the move

karimwassef · 11/01/2017, 05:04 AM

Thanks. I think diet plays a big role.

10/16/2017, 08:01 PM	#1
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Sailfin deep gouge He's eating and swimming fine but this is the deepest gouge I've seen. The discoloration around it is also uncommon. __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/16/2017, 11:56 PM	#3
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Might have been the rabbitfish __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/17/2017, 12:36 PM	#4
Horace Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 5,009	Prob why they call them surgeon fish..... Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk __________________ -Horace Pinker Current Tank Info: New 180g Mixed SPS Build in progress

10/17/2017, 01:23 PM	#6
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	It's full of tangs but he's the biggest after a very docile old hippo. The video shows them all. __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/17/2017, 01:24 PM	#7
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Wonder if I shouldn't de-claw all my tangs... they've lived together for years __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/16/2017, 10:05 PM	#2
lionfish300 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico Posts: 795	Do you think it got slash by another tank?

10/17/2017, 01:26 PM	#8
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Discoloration mean anything or just normal bruising? __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/17/2017, 06:11 PM	#9
Tripod1404 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,821	The location of the wound looks very much like a tang cut. When tangs fight the aling next to each other (facing opposite ways) and try to hit the other fish with their tail-razors. Most of the time they cant land a clear deep cut, but I have seen it happening. So the suspect is probably a tang that is slight smaller than it, since the wound is not on the head . Discoloration is probably is just chromatophores (color changing cells) reacting to the very close wound, either due to inflammation, swelling or maybe because the neurons near them are damaged or the connection is cut. Sailfins can get pretty dark if they want to and that part looks pretty close to that color. So that is why I think it is just a color change.

10/17/2017, 07:18 PM	#10
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	would it return to normal after healing? I guess we'll find out __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/17/2017, 08:40 PM	#12
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	could take him out and stitch it up to be more scar-like! j/k __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/18/2017, 04:52 AM	#13
der_wille_zur_macht Team RC Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 17,749	Next thing, he'll be listening to rock and roll and getting tattoos! __________________ Inconveniencing marine life since 1992 "It is my personal belief that reef aquaria should be thriving communities of biodiversity, representative of their wild counterparts, and not merely collections of pretty specimens growing on tidy clean rock shelves covered in purple coralline algae." (Eric Borneman)

10/18/2017, 12:34 PM	#15
Shia Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 981 Blog Entries: 1	That does look a bit deep. My biggest concern would be some kind of bacterial infection. The more he eats the better off you are. I am always astonished with how fast fish heal from skirmishes with each other. If you start suspecting an infection brewing then hospital tank with antibiotics.

10/18/2017, 08:58 PM	#16
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	Sure looks like a tail spike, other tangs may be smaller or less aggressive but it does not mean a tang won't strike if he was picking at them. It should heal. __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

10/19/2017, 07:34 AM	#17
kmbyrnes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 2,055	My tangs give as good as they get. It'll heal and like others have said, it will impress the ladies. Just watch out for infection. __________________ 125g Mixed Reef 5/26/2015; 350 Butterfly Dominated FOWLR 11/26/2015 - 11/17/20217 & 07/31/18 to ??? ; 100g Mixed Reef 11/16/2013 to 06/16/2017 Current Tank Info: Too small

10/30/2017, 11:53 PM	#18
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	ok.. he's healed up __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/31/2017, 07:53 AM	#19
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	Good to hear. That was a nasty cut on a prized fish. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

10/31/2017, 08:46 AM	#20
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Now he's going to have a prison scar to show off! You can still see it when he turn facing right ... like a slightly indented ridge... __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/31/2017, 09:36 AM	#21
sde1500 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glocester, RI Posts: 3,336	That was a pretty quick healing, that's good! __________________ My build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2548422 Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef, Eshopps sump and HOB overflow, RO-110int skimmer, Reefbreeder 32" photons V1.

10/31/2017, 11:36 AM	#22
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	With a massive tank move coming up in a couple of weeks, it's good to get everyone in peak shape. __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

10/31/2017, 09:45 PM	#23
lionfish300 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico Posts: 795	Cool to see hem all heal up. Good luck with the move

11/01/2017, 05:04 AM	#24
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Thanks. I think diet plays a big role. __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape