Wave box pump. No box?

rogergolf66 · 02/12/2016, 07:39 PM

Can I use the pump and no box and still get the wave results? If so any tips?

Roger

I have a shallow frag tank and the box is too tall

rvitko · 02/15/2016, 10:08 AM

Yes and no, the box combines the displacement and the pulse, with only the pulse, you typically need two opposing pumps running in inverse mode. It may work, but the wave height will be greatly reduced and when a wave is much less than a 1/2" high, the water movement is likely less than you would get just running the pump in a continuous mode. The drawback there is it is likely to burn out the power supply unless you downsize the propeller.

rogergolf66 · 02/15/2016, 04:53 PM

Yes I tried with no box it didn't work. My sps frag tank is 72x30x12 and the box is to tall is why I am trying to do something to make it work. Can I cut 2 inches off the top of the box? What would happen then as far as wave quality.

Thx

Roger

I also need a new gasket seal for my Tunze silence 1073.040_a can I get that strait from u? If so send me a pm please on how to pay and price. I am running pump external on a calcium reactor. Works great for almost 2 years. Now it's leaking

rvitko · 02/16/2016, 09:55 AM

A wavebox is about 12" tall, roughly 3/4" needs to stick out above the water so it can take in air, is it not possible to install it as intended? Even if an an inch was sticking out that should work.

rogergolf66 · 02/16/2016, 01:36 PM

Unfortunately with the euro brazing there is no way to get the box in with out putting it towards the middle of the tank I front of a 4in euro bracing.

rvitko · 02/16/2016, 01:59 PM

How much do you have to cut off so it fits and has a little room to draw in air at the top?

rogergolf66 · 02/16/2016, 03:23 PM

rogergolf66 · 02/16/2016, 03:24 PM

rvitko · 02/16/2016, 03:56 PM

I don't think trimming off the top 1/2" will affect anything.

rogergolf66 · 02/16/2016, 04:06 PM

Ok thx

rogergolf66 · 03/07/2016, 04:49 PM

Thx works great after cutting it with the chop saw

rvitko · 03/08/2016, 09:42 AM

I am glad that it worked out.

02/12/2016, 07:39 PM	#1
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Wave box pump. No box? Can I use the pump and no box and still get the wave results? If so any tips? Roger I have a shallow frag tank and the box is too tall __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/15/2016, 10:08 AM	#2
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Yes and no, the box combines the displacement and the pulse, with only the pulse, you typically need two opposing pumps running in inverse mode. It may work, but the wave height will be greatly reduced and when a wave is much less than a 1/2" high, the water movement is likely less than you would get just running the pump in a continuous mode. The drawback there is it is likely to burn out the power supply unless you downsize the propeller. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

02/15/2016, 04:53 PM	#3
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Yes I tried with no box it didn't work. My sps frag tank is 72x30x12 and the box is to tall is why I am trying to do something to make it work. Can I cut 2 inches off the top of the box? What would happen then as far as wave quality. Thx Roger I also need a new gasket seal for my Tunze silence 1073.040_a can I get that strait from u? If so send me a pm please on how to pay and price. I am running pump external on a calcium reactor. Works great for almost 2 years. Now it's leaking __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/16/2016, 09:55 AM	#4
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	A wavebox is about 12" tall, roughly 3/4" needs to stick out above the water so it can take in air, is it not possible to install it as intended? Even if an an inch was sticking out that should work. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

02/16/2016, 01:36 PM	#5
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Unfortunately with the euro brazing there is no way to get the box in with out putting it towards the middle of the tank I front of a 4in euro bracing. __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/16/2016, 01:59 PM	#6
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	How much do you have to cut off so it fits and has a little room to draw in air at the top? __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

02/16/2016, 03:23 PM	#7
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	__________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/16/2016, 03:24 PM	#8
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	__________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

02/16/2016, 03:56 PM	#9
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	I don't think trimming off the top 1/2" will affect anything. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

02/16/2016, 04:06 PM	#10
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Ok thx __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

03/07/2016, 04:49 PM	#11
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	Thx works great after cutting it with the chop saw __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

03/08/2016, 09:42 AM	#12
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	I am glad that it worked out. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish