Vibrant by UWC testing - Page 2

sde1500 · 12/02/2016, 07:03 AM

Got my bottle in last night and just added some to the tank. Gonna try for two doses per week since I have a lot going on in the tank. GHA, some red algae growing on a newer frag I have, and some brown stuff that I don't really know what it is. So we'll see how it goes.

Big E · 12/02/2016, 07:28 AM

There's quite few bacterial commercial products that claim to do the same thing. Special Blend and MB7 off the top of my head come to mind.

I've tried MB7 and it did work over time for cyano.

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 09:18 AM

This is also a related question to that MB7, Special Blend, etc and my response from another thread...

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Originally Posted by ksed, post: 3340375, member: 11239

How is this bacteria any different than all others out there?

Good question. I didn't get an answer back from them on that. But from what I have visually seen under the microscope there's some unique strands of something, possibly left over from some type of algae, with bacteria attached to it. Those seemed to be dormant. I did see some active bacteria and typical cocci and bacilli and coccobacillus types. But I also found chains of coccus bacteria and they did stain gram positive which would indicate a type of streptococcus. That I have definitely not seen in any of the bottles of bacteria I've looked at yet.

Kaidman · 12/02/2016, 09:56 AM

Interesting thread and thanks for documenting! Have you noticed any effects on your ATS since adding Vibrant? Or have you heard any others who use Vibrant and run an ATS? I'm wondering if it's going to kill off the algae in the ATS and not allow it to export nutrients.

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaidman

Interesting thread and thanks for documenting! Have you noticed any effects on your ATS since adding Vibrant? Or have you heard any others who use Vibrant and run an ATS? I'm wondering if it's going to kill off the algae in the ATS and not allow it to export nutrients.

I will find out in a couple weeks. Just before the first dose I cleaned off my ATS screen. Will see how it effects the ATS growth compared to my past experiences.

neiltus · 12/02/2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jason2459

Not sure what it is but really that's a good picture showing exactly what it looks like.

Scope it and post photos...but you know that.

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neiltus

Scope it and post photos...but you know that.

That is the plan as soon as I get a chance too.

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 06:38 PM

Day 5 2xdoses 40ml total

Receding back pretty well

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 06:46 PM

The algae

Sethjamto · 12/02/2016, 06:50 PM

I just ordered the 8oz bottle after reading a ton of reviews on another site. I don't really have an algae problem (small amount of GHA on my return nozzles) and then the normal every 4 day cleaning of the glass. I'm just looking to "polish" the water a little and minimize glass cleanings. Will give it a try and see how it does.

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethjamto

I just ordered the 8oz bottle after reading a ton of reviews on another site. I don't really have an algae problem (small amount of GHA on my return nozzles) and then the normal every 4 day cleaning of the glass. I'm just looking to "polish" the water a little and minimize glass cleanings. Will give it a try and see how it does.

Have you tried doing any kind of carbon dosing?

jason2459 · 12/02/2016, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psiber_Syn, post: 3347838, member: 58375

Think the poop stuff could be algae from your drain or in the overflow?

I'm thinking general detritus not just algae. I'm thinking skimmer drain. Or something. Odd it has a uniform like shape.

Its in my skimmer section.

If it was from the drain or ATS I would expect it to be in that section where it becomes food or home like for this cute couple

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 08:27 AM

Yep, I'm pretty confident it came from the skimmer. Reminded me a lot of what I saw from looking at a sample from my skimmer cup a while back. Nothing like my ATS, sump bottom, or rock detritus which I've also looked at several times now.

I got a nice sample from the middle inside of a big chunk.

Uploading pics and videos now. I did see something I've never seen yet. Which isn't saying much as I'm always finding something new. So no idea if its from the Vibrant or not. It is possible.

neiltus · 12/03/2016, 09:35 AM

I wonder if there are very long strands in that sample...

I really need to get a microscope! I know nothing about them. There is a place by the med school that has a decent used selection. It's the other side of town...

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 12:59 PM

Looks like used up detritus

Mystery_Detritus-0001 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0007 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0008 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0010 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0014 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0013 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0018 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0021 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0022 by Jason, on Flickr

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 01:02 PM

And then I found this very interesting strand with what looks like bacteria moving up and down it. Seems to be wrapped around or attached to a piece of algae.

Mystery_Detritus-0024 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0025 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0026 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0028 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0029 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0031 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0033 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0034 by Jason, on Flickr

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 01:03 PM

Then an ostracod came along and messed it all up.

Mystery_Detritus-0037 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0036 by Jason, on Flickr

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 01:04 PM

And I found more strands

Mystery_Detritus-0042 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0043 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0044 by Jason, on Flickr

Mystery_Detritus-0045 by Jason, on Flickr

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 02:25 PM

These are longish videos but here's that strand with what looks like possibly bacteria working up and down

https://youtu.be/jsmycYwpWX8

https://youtu.be/FV-xT0Q1U0k

The playlist

Mystery Detritus: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...IZMbVLgAe2zz3L

jason2459 · 12/03/2016, 06:35 PM

Day 6 40ml total with 2x doses

3rd dose tomorrow night

gregkn73 · 12/04/2016, 07:27 AM

It will be nice experiment if you had a lot of algae to see the before and after picture. More or less more of the commercial bacterial formulations , claim the same things, except the effect at algae, this product claim.

But I will be very interested to see what will happen, when you finished your experiment of watching the positive effects of dosing this product, sto p dosing it and return to your previous routine.

jason2459 · 12/04/2016, 09:48 AM

I was happy to see any hair algae in my tank. I haven't seen any in a very long time.

jason2459 · 12/04/2016, 06:54 PM

Day 7 2x doses @ 40ml total

Will dose the 3rd dose of 20ml tonight.

Didn't notice really any change tonight

jason2459 · 12/05/2016, 07:50 PM

Day 8 3z doses @ 60ml total

Seems some receding has occurred. Glass film algae is coming back daily it seems where normally I have to clean it off every 2-3 days.

Next, 4th, dose is Wednesday

jason2459 · 12/05/2016, 07:52 PM

Sort of by request but taking the request a step further

12/02/2016, 07:03 AM	#26
sde1500 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glocester, RI Posts: 3,336	Got my bottle in last night and just added some to the tank. Gonna try for two doses per week since I have a lot going on in the tank. GHA, some red algae growing on a newer frag I have, and some brown stuff that I don't really know what it is. So we'll see how it goes. __________________ My build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2548422 Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef, Eshopps sump and HOB overflow, RO-110int skimmer, Reefbreeder 32" photons V1.

12/02/2016, 07:28 AM	#27
Big E Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Euclid, OH Posts: 4,281	There's quite few bacterial commercial products that claim to do the same thing. Special Blend and MB7 off the top of my head come to mind. I've tried MB7 and it did work over time for cyano. __________________ 80g Rimless Acropora System reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2197142&page=31 Ed

12/02/2016, 09:56 AM	#29
Kaidman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 153	Interesting thread and thanks for documenting! Have you noticed any effects on your ATS since adding Vibrant? Or have you heard any others who use Vibrant and run an ATS? I'm wondering if it's going to kill off the algae in the ATS and not allow it to export nutrients. __________________ - Josh Current info: 300g in progress

12/02/2016, 06:38 PM	#33
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Day 5 2xdoses 40ml total Receding back pretty well __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/02/2016, 06:46 PM	#34
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	The algae __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/02/2016, 06:50 PM	#35
Sethjamto Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 845	I just ordered the 8oz bottle after reading a ton of reviews on another site. I don't really have an algae problem (small amount of GHA on my return nozzles) and then the normal every 4 day cleaning of the glass. I'm just looking to "polish" the water a little and minimize glass cleanings. Will give it a try and see how it does. __________________ 8ft 300g, Reeflo Dart Gold return, MRC 48" High-flo reef sump, MRC MR4 dual beckett Skimmer, (2) Reefbreeders Photon 48's, Reef Angel, LMIII continuous water change/ATO setup..

12/03/2016, 08:27 AM	#38
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Yep, I'm pretty confident it came from the skimmer. Reminded me a lot of what I saw from looking at a sample from my skimmer cup a while back. Nothing like my ATS, sump bottom, or rock detritus which I've also looked at several times now. I got a nice sample from the middle inside of a big chunk. Uploading pics and videos now. I did see something I've never seen yet. Which isn't saying much as I'm always finding something new. So no idea if its from the Vibrant or not. It is possible. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/03/2016, 09:35 AM	#39
neiltus Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 415	I wonder if there are very long strands in that sample... I really need to get a microscope! I know nothing about them. There is a place by the med school that has a decent used selection. It's the other side of town... __________________ Build Thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2592260

12/03/2016, 12:59 PM	#40
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Looks like used up detritus Mystery_Detritus-0001 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0007 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0008 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0010 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0014 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0013 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0018 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0021 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0022 by Jason, on Flickr __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/03/2016, 01:02 PM	#41
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	And then I found this very interesting strand with what looks like bacteria moving up and down it. Seems to be wrapped around or attached to a piece of algae. Mystery_Detritus-0024 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0025 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0026 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0028 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0029 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0031 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0033 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0034 by Jason, on Flickr __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/03/2016, 01:03 PM	#42
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Then an ostracod came along and messed it all up. Mystery_Detritus-0037 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0036 by Jason, on Flickr __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/03/2016, 01:04 PM	#43
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	And I found more strands Mystery_Detritus-0042 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0043 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0044 by Jason, on Flickr Mystery_Detritus-0045 by Jason, on Flickr __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/03/2016, 02:25 PM	#44
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	These are longish videos but here's that strand with what looks like possibly bacteria working up and down https://youtu.be/jsmycYwpWX8 https://youtu.be/FV-xT0Q1U0k The playlist Mystery Detritus: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...IZMbVLgAe2zz3L __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/03/2016, 06:35 PM	#45
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Day 6 40ml total with 2x doses 3rd dose tomorrow night __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/04/2016, 07:27 AM	#46
gregkn73 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 278	It will be nice experiment if you had a lot of algae to see the before and after picture. More or less more of the commercial bacterial formulations , claim the same things, except the effect at algae, this product claim. But I will be very interested to see what will happen, when you finished your experiment of watching the positive effects of dosing this product, sto p dosing it and return to your previous routine.

12/04/2016, 09:48 AM	#47
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I was happy to see any hair algae in my tank. I haven't seen any in a very long time. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/04/2016, 06:54 PM	#48
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Day 7 2x doses @ 40ml total Will dose the 3rd dose of 20ml tonight. Didn't notice really any change tonight __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/05/2016, 07:50 PM	#49
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Day 8 3z doses @ 60ml total Seems some receding has occurred. Glass film algae is coming back daily it seems where normally I have to clean it off every 2-3 days. Next, 4th, dose is Wednesday __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

12/05/2016, 07:52 PM	#50
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	Sort of by request but taking the request a step further __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank