mocha clown?

EMUReef · 01/07/2010, 05:57 PM

My LFS had a few of these the other day, i think it was like 2 for 100$.

Anyone got any in their tank?

Is a 12g Nano suitable for 2?

dun2run · 01/07/2010, 08:20 PM

I got a pair about 3 weeks ago. They are pretty cool cause they are different. Thats what I paid for them.

tahoe61 · 01/07/2010, 08:25 PM

Yes a pair could go in a 12 gal tank, if they are the only fish and you keep up with WC. I have the same tank and have two B/W clowns in the 12 gal nano with a brain coral and a couple of snails and hermit crabs, I can still add more LPS or soft corals but I am maxed out on fish.

WDLV · 01/08/2010, 10:50 AM

Mocha clown??? What the fornication is that?

MarinaP · 01/08/2010, 11:39 AM

Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me

romsoccer12 · 01/08/2010, 11:52 AM

you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns...

EMUReef · 01/08/2010, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romsoccer12

you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns...

dont ask me, i could barely find any pictures by searching google, but they were labeled as mocha clowns at my LFS, they have 4 of them.

1DeR9_3Hy · 01/08/2010, 12:30 PM

Maybe a saddle back with less barring?

1DeR9_3Hy · 01/08/2010, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinaP

Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me

Ive never seen an occy x perc hybrid that looked different than there parents. I would have a hard time telling they are even hybrids if it was not for the sticker on the tank.

MarinaP · 01/08/2010, 12:50 PM

Edit:

Black ocellaris x percula.

t4zalews · 01/08/2010, 02:58 PM

pics?

brich1027 · 01/08/2010, 03:29 PM

Black O x Reg O? or is that a Chocolate Clown?

RUBBAGAGOW · 01/08/2010, 04:24 PM

They are from Sea and Reef Aquaculture. Darwin (black ocellaris) X with regular Ocellaris.

EMUReef · 01/08/2010, 07:07 PM

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6...cs-138106.html

go there, the only thing i could find that looks like them. there not really black, their mocha, like a coffee color almost.

fishieness · 01/08/2010, 11:13 PM

Ill take a picture of some tomorrow for you guys.

E.intheC · 01/08/2010, 11:19 PM

emu, those pics look like juvenile black and whites. I've seen them that color before, and when they 'grow up' they darken.

I could be wrong though. (Happens.. lol)

fishieness · 01/09/2010, 05:48 PM

here you guys go!

The same company also breeds a white percula similar to the ORA platinums. Here's a picture.

And a picture of the platinums for comparison.

and a few more of the mochas!

PS: these guys are definitely not just juvi blacks.

romsoccer12 · 01/09/2010, 06:15 PM

those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown?

fishieness · 01/09/2010, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romsoccer12

those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown?

no they are not. They are mochas. And yes, it's a cross between a black and a normal ocell, as rubbagagow mentioned.

WDLV · 01/09/2010, 08:16 PM

Thanks for the pics.

casualreefer · 01/09/2010, 11:02 PM

LOL, this cracks me up. we just had a huge discussion/argument about these and "maine blizzard clowns" on another site. if you search "maine blizzard clownfish" in google click on the first link that comes up to see the posts. its seems this guy soren who is in maine is breeding clowns. the name "mocha" and "maine blizzard clowns" also came up in this conversation. it finally just stopped because nobody could get a straight answer out of the guy, he had no facts that these NEW blizzards were actually this guy sorens own work or whether he was just coming up with a new name for clowns that already had been named. I am in no way saying this guy soren didn't come up with his own "white" clown through breeding but we could never get a straight answer...... google search "maine blizzard clown" its a pretty funny thread!

copokie · 01/09/2010, 11:17 PM

look like regular black & whites that havnt compleatly developed to me. just saying

EileenLH · 01/10/2010, 07:11 PM

Those of you that have the "mocha" clowns, can you tell me how old are the ones you have/have seen? And what color brown (light brown, almost black, etc.) are they? I have been raising the fry of my black ocellaris x orange ocellaris for the past few months, and I was wondering if they were going to be black, orange, some of each, or a brown or rusty color. They aren't mature enough yet for me to tell how they'll turn out and I'm really curious. I'm also curious about the genetics - which genes are dominant, which are recessive, etc. Does anyone know where I can get more info on the genetics?

LLTooSweet · 03/03/2011, 11:17 PM

For some reason I seem to like these more than the Platinums. I don't like the black and whites neither. I guess I'll settle for in between. lolz

Tahoe Reefer · 03/04/2011, 10:46 AM

I've got a clown thats 1/2 Snowflake Oci and 1/2 Darwin Oci being called a S'more. It's got alot of black in it but it's no where near as dark as the clowns you've got.

01/07/2010, 05:57 PM	#1
EMUReef Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 580	mocha clown? My LFS had a few of these the other day, i think it was like 2 for 100$. Anyone got any in their tank? Is a 12g Nano suitable for 2?

01/07/2010, 08:25 PM	#3
tahoe61 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: On the state line Posts: 730	Mocha Clowns Yes a pair could go in a 12 gal tank, if they are the only fish and you keep up with WC. I have the same tank and have two B/W clowns in the 12 gal nano with a brain coral and a couple of snails and hermit crabs, I can still add more LPS or soft corals but I am maxed out on fish.

01/08/2010, 10:50 AM	#4
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Mocha clown??? What the fornication is that? __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

01/08/2010, 11:39 AM	#5
MarinaP Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 3,489	Ocellaris x percula most likely, aka chocolate clowns. Creativity is just killing me __________________ Marina

01/08/2010, 11:52 AM	#6
romsoccer12 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 2,625	you guys mean darwins? ive never heard of choclate clowns or mocha clowns... __________________ Colin R Current Tank Info: 3rd tank working fine!(29gal oceanic biocube) 5-6months old

01/07/2010, 08:20 PM	#2
dun2run Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 259	I got a pair about 3 weeks ago. They are pretty cool cause they are different. Thats what I paid for them.

01/08/2010, 12:30 PM	#8
1DeR9_3Hy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,575	Maybe a saddle back with less barring?

01/08/2010, 12:50 PM	#10
MarinaP Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 3,489	Edit: Black ocellaris x percula. __________________ Marina

01/08/2010, 02:58 PM	#11
t4zalews 65g Ritteri Tank Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royal Oak, MI Posts: 2,673	pics?

01/08/2010, 03:29 PM	#12
brich1027 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 68	Black O x Reg O? or is that a Chocolate Clown?

01/08/2010, 04:24 PM	#13
RUBBAGAGOW Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Hartford Posts: 178	They are from Sea and Reef Aquaculture. Darwin (black ocellaris) X with regular Ocellaris.

01/08/2010, 07:07 PM	#14
EMUReef Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 580	http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6...cs-138106.html go there, the only thing i could find that looks like them. there not really black, their mocha, like a coffee color almost.

01/08/2010, 11:13 PM	#15
fishieness Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ct Posts: 3,606	Ill take a picture of some tomorrow for you guys. __________________ That is not orange, or purple, or green, or gold..... It's brown... Current Tank Info: 8 gallon rimless cube, 33 watt diy crees, deltec MC500, RKL, ato, 5.5g sump, 4g fuge.

01/08/2010, 11:19 PM	#16
E.intheC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 5,373	emu, those pics look like juvenile black and whites. I've seen them that color before, and when they 'grow up' they darken. I could be wrong though. (Happens.. lol) __________________ -Eric

01/09/2010, 05:48 PM	#17
fishieness Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ct Posts: 3,606	here you guys go! The same company also breeds a white percula similar to the ORA platinums. Here's a picture. And a picture of the platinums for comparison. and a few more of the mochas! PS: these guys are definitely not just juvi blacks. __________________ That is not orange, or purple, or green, or gold..... It's brown... Current Tank Info: 8 gallon rimless cube, 33 watt diy crees, deltec MC500, RKL, ato, 5.5g sump, 4g fuge. Last edited by fishieness; 01/09/2010 at 05:54 PM.

01/09/2010, 06:15 PM	#18
romsoccer12 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 2,625	those are black and whites. maybe mochas are the cross between a black/white ocell and a orange/white ocell = brown? __________________ Colin R Current Tank Info: 3rd tank working fine!(29gal oceanic biocube) 5-6months old

01/09/2010, 08:16 PM	#20
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Thanks for the pics. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

01/09/2010, 11:02 PM	#21
casualreefer Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nw Burbs of Chicago Posts: 1,152	LOL, this cracks me up. we just had a huge discussion/argument about these and "maine blizzard clowns" on another site. if you search "maine blizzard clownfish" in google click on the first link that comes up to see the posts. its seems this guy soren who is in maine is breeding clowns. the name "mocha" and "maine blizzard clowns" also came up in this conversation. it finally just stopped because nobody could get a straight answer out of the guy, he had no facts that these NEW blizzards were actually this guy sorens own work or whether he was just coming up with a new name for clowns that already had been named. I am in no way saying this guy soren didn't come up with his own "white" clown through breeding but we could never get a straight answer...... google search "maine blizzard clown" its a pretty funny thread!

01/09/2010, 11:17 PM	#22
copokie Moved On Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 56	look like regular black & whites that havnt compleatly developed to me. just saying

01/10/2010, 07:11 PM	#23
EileenLH Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 19	Those of you that have the "mocha" clowns, can you tell me how old are the ones you have/have seen? And what color brown (light brown, almost black, etc.) are they? I have been raising the fry of my black ocellaris x orange ocellaris for the past few months, and I was wondering if they were going to be black, orange, some of each, or a brown or rusty color. They aren't mature enough yet for me to tell how they'll turn out and I'm really curious. I'm also curious about the genetics - which genes are dominant, which are recessive, etc. Does anyone know where I can get more info on the genetics? __________________ "In the end, we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught.” ~ Baba Dioum

03/03/2011, 11:17 PM	#24
LLTooSweet Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12	For some reason I seem to like these more than the Platinums. I don't like the black and whites neither. I guess I'll settle for in between. lolz

03/04/2011, 10:46 AM	#25
Tahoe Reefer Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lake Tahoe, Ca Posts: 506	I've got a clown thats 1/2 Snowflake Oci and 1/2 Darwin Oci being called a S'more. It's got alot of black in it but it's no where near as dark as the clowns you've got. __________________ Always learning... I think Current Tank Info: 20G Long