Modern Reef Aquariums - Page 36

Tomoko Schum · 06/26/2008, 10:25 AM

Hmm,

Here's the description of Cube Garden MINI S tank from ADG in Houston:
http://www.adgshop.com/Cube_Garden_MINI_S_p/102-864.htm

This site does not mention about its construction being one piece. I checked ADA's and other Japanese retailers' websites for the construction as well. ADA did not talk about the particular construction of Cube Garden Mini Series tanks on their Japanese website, but a retailer's site mentioned that the glass plates are assembled by applying a fortified clear silicone sealant on the seams very thinly only where the glass plates meet so that the tank appears seamless.

Tomoko

Skeptic_07 · 06/26/2008, 11:25 AM

i dont know why the guys says the cube gardens are one piece. that article was probably written years ago and back then they may have been called that. The one piece tanks do exist. and its pretty easy to tell the difference between a really neat seam and no seam. go look in the book, its definitely one piece, i'm not making this up. lol...

Tomoko Schum · 06/26/2008, 03:18 PM

I looked a little further on ADA's Japanese site and found that Cube Garden Superior was something close to what you were talking about. These tanks are made by the German craftsman. Although a few other people seem to think that these tanks are made from a single piece of glass, they are not. The glass plates are fused directly together with each other at the seams so that they look seamless. These tanks might have been produced at one time from a single piece of glass as you suggested, but a curved or a bent glass plate usually has some distortion at the curve or the bend. ADA might have opted for the fused splicing technology possibly for this reason.

Tomoko

CamBarr · 06/26/2008, 03:24 PM

Speaking of ADA I love the solar series 250watt light fixture but at 1099.00 i think i will stick with an AquaMedic Oceanlight but i love the design.

http://www.adana-usa.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=188

CamBarr · 06/27/2008, 02:07 AM

gotta love this more ADA

boozeman · 06/27/2008, 12:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHDHf...eature=related

nattarbox · 06/27/2008, 01:00 PM

Yeah ADA is great. Too bad that stand alone is $700.

CamBarr · 06/27/2008, 08:21 PM

yea no kidding! looks great but way to expensive

CamBarr · 06/27/2008, 08:21 PM

yea no kidding! looks great but way to expensive

Tang Salad · 06/27/2008, 08:37 PM

Great pics of ADA stuff guys!

I'm also a huge fan of rimless. All my SW tanks have been rimless. Something about rimless makes you feel that the water/corals/fish are really in the room with you, and not enclosed in a box.

For my new tank I went with an ADA 90-P. I had a friend drill one of the short sides and install a very small overflow box. The tank is beautifully made, with nice dimensions and great seams. The tank itself was close to $400, not too bad, but the shipping kills you!

Here's an old pic, but the seams show up pretty well:

CamBarr · 06/27/2008, 10:11 PM

nice tank do you have a pic of the O/F Box

Tang Salad · 06/27/2008, 10:17 PM

You can see it on the top right side, between the 2 nanostreams. Hang on I'll find another...

Tang Salad · 06/27/2008, 10:21 PM

From above. This picture makes it look bigger than it is.

REEF-n-Chicago · 06/28/2008, 02:46 PM

Great thread>one of my favorite in a long time

So far I have read 9 pages; going to read them all LOL
Keep the pics and discussion coming....

CamBarr · 06/28/2008, 05:41 PM

tang salad what did he drill the tank with???

Slakker · 06/28/2008, 05:47 PM

I would assume a diamond tipped hole saw and a lot of care.

Tang Salad · 06/28/2008, 05:59 PM

Yep, that's pretty much it. The tanks are low-iron, like Starphire, and this apparently makes them more difficult to drill. But this guy had drilled about 8 ADA tanks previously, so I was comfortable letting him drill mine.

FWIW, ADA says their tanks are not drillable.

s1214215 · 06/28/2008, 08:31 PM

Why is low iron glass more difficult to drill?

Brett

cerreta · 07/04/2008, 09:38 PM

I finally stocked . . . da Artsy-Cube

I still have the GSP ring and one fish to add. Nothing else will go in there.

Here are a few photos

Before Stocking

After Stocking with A. nana, A. yongi (color is coming back), Teal Acropora, Crayola Acropora, and Montipora spongodes ( color is coming back)

Side View

cerreta · 07/04/2008, 09:41 PM

The tank above is low-iron and as you can see, I drilled teh hello out of it. I did not notice any differences at all. However, it was only 1/4" glass, so thinker glass my present other problems.

Nonetheless, I used a hand drill and the same diamond tipped hole saws that I have used with traditional glass.

Cheers

melev · 07/04/2008, 10:03 PM

I'm still trying to talk you out of the green star polyps. How about ricordia?

I like the SPS glued to the column.

melev · 07/04/2008, 10:03 PM

I'm still trying to talk you out of the green star polyps. How about ricordia?

I like the SPS glued to the column.

cerreta · 07/04/2008, 10:26 PM

hehehe. Nope, it will look awesome!!!

It will be nice to have movement in the tank.

redwarrior77 · 07/05/2008, 11:17 AM

It's kind of fun hearing people debate design styles again. (I haven't heard that kind of talk since architorture school!) I am completely sick of the postmodernist/revival/country/overblown crap we have to choose from here in the states and I'm happy to see some more enlightened minimalism becoming available! When my ship finally comes in, it will have one of these tanks on it!

InsaneClownFish · 07/05/2008, 01:47 PM

CamBarr- those are some nice tanks, but they look a bit neglected. Someone hasn't mowed the lawn in a long time

06/26/2008, 10:25 AM	#876
Tomoko Schum Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 4,166	Hmm, Here's the description of Cube Garden MINI S tank from ADG in Houston: http://www.adgshop.com/Cube_Garden_MINI_S_p/102-864.htm This site does not mention about its construction being one piece. I checked ADA's and other Japanese retailers' websites for the construction as well. ADA did not talk about the particular construction of Cube Garden Mini Series tanks on their Japanese website, but a retailer's site mentioned that the glass plates are assembled by applying a fortified clear silicone sealant on the seams very thinly only where the glass plates meet so that the tank appears seamless. Tomoko __________________ Avoiding work as usual... Current Tank Info: 15 gallon long nano reef tank with 110W PC and 180G with three 250W 14K SE MH & LumenBright reflectors

06/26/2008, 03:18 PM	#878
Tomoko Schum Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 4,166	I looked a little further on ADA's Japanese site and found that Cube Garden Superior was something close to what you were talking about. These tanks are made by the German craftsman. Although a few other people seem to think that these tanks are made from a single piece of glass, they are not. The glass plates are fused directly together with each other at the seams so that they look seamless. These tanks might have been produced at one time from a single piece of glass as you suggested, but a curved or a bent glass plate usually has some distortion at the curve or the bend. ADA might have opted for the fused splicing technology possibly for this reason. Tomoko __________________ Avoiding work as usual... Current Tank Info: 15 gallon long nano reef tank with 110W PC and 180G with three 250W 14K SE MH & LumenBright reflectors

06/26/2008, 03:24 PM	#879
CamBarr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Irvine, SOCAL Posts: 2,365	Speaking of ADA I love the solar series 250watt light fixture but at 1099.00 i think i will stick with an AquaMedic Oceanlight but i love the design. http://www.adana-usa.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=188 __________________ Cam Barr

06/27/2008, 02:07 AM	#880
CamBarr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Irvine, SOCAL Posts: 2,365	gotta love this more ADA __________________ Cam Barr

06/27/2008, 12:54 PM	#881
boozeman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 339	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHDHf...eature=related __________________ WWBD ?

06/26/2008, 11:25 AM	#877
Skeptic_07 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: lawn guy land Posts: 1,418	i dont know why the guys says the cube gardens are one piece. that article was probably written years ago and back then they may have been called that. The one piece tanks do exist. and its pretty easy to tell the difference between a really neat seam and no seam. go look in the book, its definitely one piece, i'm not making this up. lol...

06/27/2008, 01:00 PM	#882
nattarbox Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 431	Yeah ADA is great. Too bad that stand alone is $700.

06/27/2008, 08:21 PM	#883
CamBarr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Irvine, SOCAL Posts: 2,365	yea no kidding! looks great but way to expensive __________________ Cam Barr

06/27/2008, 08:21 PM	#884
CamBarr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Irvine, SOCAL Posts: 2,365	yea no kidding! looks great but way to expensive __________________ Cam Barr

06/27/2008, 08:37 PM	#885
Tang Salad Algae skeptic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 78702 Posts: 3,098	Great pics of ADA stuff guys! I'm also a huge fan of rimless. All my SW tanks have been rimless. Something about rimless makes you feel that the water/corals/fish are really in the room with you, and not enclosed in a box. For my new tank I went with an ADA 90-P. I had a friend drill one of the short sides and install a very small overflow box. The tank is beautifully made, with nice dimensions and great seams. The tank itself was close to $400, not too bad, but the shipping kills you! Here's an old pic, but the seams show up pretty well: __________________ Your algae is not special. Current Tank Info: TBD ADA 120-P SPS NLPS Last edited by Tang Salad; 06/27/2008 at 08:43 PM.

06/27/2008, 10:11 PM	#886
CamBarr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Irvine, SOCAL Posts: 2,365	nice tank do you have a pic of the O/F Box __________________ Cam Barr

06/27/2008, 10:17 PM	#887
Tang Salad Algae skeptic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 78702 Posts: 3,098	You can see it on the top right side, between the 2 nanostreams. Hang on I'll find another... __________________ Your algae is not special. Current Tank Info: TBD ADA 120-P SPS NLPS

06/27/2008, 10:21 PM	#888
Tang Salad Algae skeptic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 78702 Posts: 3,098	From above. This picture makes it look bigger than it is. __________________ Your algae is not special. Current Tank Info: TBD ADA 120-P SPS NLPS

06/28/2008, 02:46 PM	#889
REEF-n-Chicago Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA (san pedro) Posts: 1,456	Great thread>one of my favorite in a long time So far I have read 9 pages; going to read them all LOL Keep the pics and discussion coming.... __________________ Jordan My tank gets DRUNK every morning Current Tank Info: 150 Gallon w/ 100 gallon sump; 240 gallon

06/28/2008, 05:41 PM	#890
CamBarr Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Irvine, SOCAL Posts: 2,365	tang salad what did he drill the tank with??? __________________ Cam Barr

06/28/2008, 05:47 PM	#891
Slakker Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southeastern Wisconsin Posts: 4,521	I would assume a diamond tipped hole saw and a lot of care. __________________ -Tyler Oceanic 58RR display/20H sump/fuge thread...follow the red house. Current Tank Info: Oceanic 58g, 20H sump, AquaC EV-150, 175w Hamilton 14k + 2x39w T5HO Actinics

06/28/2008, 05:59 PM	#892
Tang Salad Algae skeptic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 78702 Posts: 3,098	Yep, that's pretty much it. The tanks are low-iron, like Starphire, and this apparently makes them more difficult to drill. But this guy had drilled about 8 ADA tanks previously, so I was comfortable letting him drill mine. FWIW, ADA says their tanks are not drillable. __________________ Your algae is not special. Current Tank Info: TBD ADA 120-P SPS NLPS

06/28/2008, 08:31 PM	#893
s1214215 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 109	Why is low iron glass more difficult to drill? Brett

07/04/2008, 09:38 PM	#894
cerreta Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,551	I finally stocked . . . da Artsy-Cube I still have the GSP ring and one fish to add. Nothing else will go in there. Here are a few photos Before Stocking After Stocking with A. nana, A. yongi (color is coming back), Teal Acropora, Crayola Acropora, and Montipora spongodes ( color is coming back) Side View __________________ Cheers, Scott

07/04/2008, 09:41 PM	#895
cerreta Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,551	The tank above is low-iron and as you can see, I drilled teh hello out of it. I did not notice any differences at all. However, it was only 1/4" glass, so thinker glass my present other problems. Nonetheless, I used a hand drill and the same diamond tipped hole saws that I have used with traditional glass. Cheers __________________ Cheers, Scott

07/04/2008, 10:03 PM	#896
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I'm still trying to talk you out of the green star polyps. How about ricordia? I like the SPS glued to the column.

07/04/2008, 10:03 PM	#897
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I'm still trying to talk you out of the green star polyps. How about ricordia? I like the SPS glued to the column.

07/04/2008, 10:26 PM	#898
cerreta Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,551	hehehe. Nope, it will look awesome!!! It will be nice to have movement in the tank. __________________ Cheers, Scott

07/05/2008, 11:17 AM	#899
redwarrior77 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 236	It's kind of fun hearing people debate design styles again. (I haven't heard that kind of talk since architorture school!) I am completely sick of the postmodernist/revival/country/overblown crap we have to choose from here in the states and I'm happy to see some more enlightened minimalism becoming available! When my ship finally comes in, it will have one of these tanks on it!

07/05/2008, 01:47 PM	#900
InsaneClownFish Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,069	CamBarr- those are some nice tanks, but they look a bit neglected. Someone hasn't mowed the lawn in a long time __________________ 7 Years Reefing and Many Fresh 8 Foot Envisions