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04/27/2011, 01:54 PM | #51 |
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Where growth is stunted there is a biological reason -- it's not because the universe fairy waves her magic wand when she sees a hippo tang in a 75. One reason a fish's growth can be stunted is that stress produces chemicals in the blood that inhibit growth hormone. I don't think I buy the theory that GH excreted into the water in a closed system inhibits the fish's production of GH's. If that were the case, it seems like all of our fishes would demonstrate some level of growth stunting.
But it doesn't matter to me what causes it - stunting for an animal does not usually equal good health.
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04/27/2011, 02:18 PM | #53 |
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Add the yellow 2nd, yes they will co-exist. I currently have both in my 180 and are thriving.
Don't tell anyone theres also 2 other tangs in there though.
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04/27/2011, 10:08 PM | #54 |
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If she was stressed she would get ICH and all that good stuff and what's half of 12 it's 6 and I get exallent water flow and a back up source as well.
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04/27/2011, 10:21 PM | #55 |
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So you have ich in your system?
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04/28/2011, 07:16 AM | #57 |
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I keep a hippo in my 20 gal nano Granted he's an inch long and its my QT tank.
Seriously though people are shouting about max size as if tang owners are going out and purchasing full grown Naso's, hippos, etc and putting those in their 75's. It takes more than a few weeks for a 1-3 inch specimen to reach full maturity or even puberty...err..the fish equivalent. Don't just flame someone for having a 3 inch regal in a "small" system without all of the facts. For instance they may be in the middle of setting up a larger tank. Or they may have a reef club buddy that will gladly take the mature tang off of their hands. Now if someone brings home a 6 inch tang and sticks it in their 55 then thats bad LFS practice...which would NEVER happen ever ever... |
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My LFS has some big tangs - like 9 in and they are in a very long winding 4000 g tank and it looks about right. Another store has a long L shaped 400g and with the same thing 8-9 in unicorn tang. It makes the tank look small and the fish look cramped. it would be one of the most spectacular tanks I've ever seen if they would just get that poor tang out of there. I didn't have time to hunt through a bunch of videos, so this is not the perfect example. Buying these huge fish is so incredibly shortsighted How sad is this video:
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04/28/2011, 08:07 AM | #59 |
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In case anyone is not aware, that is not the normal healthy demeanor for that fish. It is truly very hard to watch.
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It's no different than someone tying a dog to a tree or leaving them in a crate 8 hours while their at work. Is it right? Nope. But it's their pet, so what can you/I really do?
People will always tie dogs to trees, people will always put big fish in little tanks. I think 90% of people know that a specific tang will get too big for their tank; they just don't care. Nothing anybody says will change their mind.
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04/28/2011, 08:29 AM | #61 |
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I partially disagree. I bought a tiny sailfin tang once about 12 years ago and would never do it again because education and maturity happened. I remember vaguely knowing it would get big, thinking well I'll upgrade later and having not even a slight idea of the fish's swimming needs. I had no thought as to how this big fish would get along with smaller tank mates.
I did feel a little guilty somewhere deep down, but ignoring that was easier to do because I really didn't have a full understanding of the factors involved. If someone had smacked me in the face with the facts, I never would have bought that fish. But you're right some people just won't ever understand or don't care at all. But I think there are plenty who really care but just need to be educated.
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04/28/2011, 08:36 AM | #63 |
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No, it's the same for the point he was making. He was saying you can't tell people they are being cruel to their pets - he wasn't saying a dog on chain = a tang in a 40g.
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I added a yellow belly hippo in my 180. I already had 2 hippos in the tank all about 4 inches. They got along well for 2 weeks. Now the original 2 are chasing and nip the new one. Any suggestions?
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I used to have a Yellow, Hippo & Purple all very happy together in a 180 gallon tank. As others have said hippos can get big, ~ 1 foot kind of big. You'll want a tank of the 72" variety for this fish.
Or... like most of us... you'll just buy the fish anyway and buy a bigger tank for it when it grows. You deny it now... but I can't wait for the pics :P |
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I had my salfin for 4yrs looks happy and healthy 90g
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tank is to small for a hippo IMO
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