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Unread 09/13/2015, 12:17 PM   #1801
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Here is my Game Plan

- Will be running lights on for 5 hours a day
- Will be dosing hydrogen peroxide for 5 - 7 days at night (3 ml for biocube 29)
- Will only be running filter floss


Here are my questions:
1. Should I do lights out for 3 days when I dose hydrogen peroxide? I did 3 days lights out about a week ago, but the dinos came back.
2. Do I have to take account for the rock work and really only dose like 2ml of hydrogen peroxide?
3. How long should I dose for (how many days)?
4. When should I do water change to get rid of hydrogen peroxide? Or does it become like pure water after a few days and lose its effectiveness?
The h2o2 will be in the water so lights out should not make any difference since the dinos should not have to be in the water column.
OP have dosed h2o2 at double and triple the recommended dose.
I dosed for 10 days.
h2o2 is very unstable and will dissipate quickly, make sure you use fresh h2o2 as it can dissipate in the bottle.
Avoid water changes.

Lights out and h2o2 had no effect on my Ostreopsis Ovata.


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Unread 09/13/2015, 02:37 PM   #1802
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If you're dosing peroxide, then you're attempting to kill dinos in the water column. This only works at lights off.

If you're spot targeting, then lights on or off doesn't matter.

Peroxide quickly reacts with whatever it touches and breaks down into water and oxygen.


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Unread 09/13/2015, 03:39 PM   #1803
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i dose at night as well


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Unread 09/13/2015, 04:43 PM   #1804
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i dose at night as well
How's it working so far? Any effects?


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Unread 09/13/2015, 07:24 PM   #1805
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I had moderate success but UV worked better


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Unread 09/13/2015, 09:48 PM   #1806
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I had moderate success but UV worked better
I wish I had $100 to spend on a UV lol


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Unread 09/13/2015, 11:38 PM   #1807
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How much do you have invested in fish and coral?


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Unread 09/14/2015, 09:33 AM   #1808
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How much do you have invested in fish and coral?
$20 lol But I have about $400 (truly) in my tank. Worked at fish store. Got freebies everyday.

Quick question. Will hydrogen peroxide have an effect on my blood shrimp?


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$20 lol But I have about $400 (truly) in my tank. Worked at fish store. Got freebies everyday.

Quick question. Will hydrogen peroxide have an effect on my blood shrimp?
It had no effect on mine.


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Unread 09/14/2015, 10:39 AM   #1810
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Is it bad to stir sand up when you have dinos? I have it on sandbed. When I suck sand out, the dinos just make a new layer on the new sand. Out of ideas. Only have like 3/4 inch sand left. I would suck it all out if I could, but I have a pistol shrimp


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Peroxide will hurt any reactive biological tissue it touches. So if you put it on a shrimp, it'll hurt it, but my injecting it into the water column flow at night, you're only targeting free floating biological material - plankton. This is where the dinos are.


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Unread 09/14/2015, 11:21 AM   #1812
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Is it bad to stir sand up when you have dinos? I have it on sandbed. When I suck sand out, the dinos just make a new layer on the new sand. Out of ideas. Only have like 3/4 inch sand left. I would suck it all out if I could, but I have a pistol shrimp
Increase or change your flow. They settle based on water flow.


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Unread 09/14/2015, 03:58 PM   #1813
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Increase or change your flow. They settle based on water flow.
Should I increase or decrease flow? What do dinos like better?


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Unread 09/14/2015, 03:59 PM   #1814
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How's it working so far? Any effects?
no affect on my corals at all...i did the lights out and all gone ..so now hoping peroxide will keep this in check...i guess we will see.....


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Unread 09/14/2015, 04:23 PM   #1815
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no affect on my corals at all...i did the lights out and all gone ..so now hoping peroxide will keep this in check...i guess we will see.....
Lucky! I hate you lol . This thing is the devil. The lights out didn't work too well for me. I don't know why. It kicked them back but only for like one day. Then they came back.


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Unread 09/14/2015, 04:36 PM   #1816
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can you lower the lights...i mean are they dimable??dont have them full blast...how long did you have your lights out for


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Unread 09/14/2015, 05:24 PM   #1817
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can you lower the lights...i mean are they dimable??dont have them full blast...how long did you have your lights out for
Yeah I can lower then.. I was originally running them at
90% blue 50% white

Now it's 50% blue and 50% white.

Did 3 days lights off and covered tank.

Dose h2o2 last night but am stopping. I noticed by shrimp is being affected. His atennae isn't looking good.


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Unread 09/14/2015, 06:53 PM   #1818
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Yeah I can lower then.. I was originally running them at
90% blue 50% white

Now it's 50% blue and 50% white.

Did 3 days lights off and covered tank.

Dose h2o2 last night but am stopping. I noticed by shrimp is being affected. His atennae isn't looking good.
My shrimps antenna kinda crinkled up a bit when dosing h2o2 but after a molt it was fine.


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Unread 09/14/2015, 07:09 PM   #1819
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My shrimps antenna kinda crinkled up a bit when dosing h2o2 but after a molt it was fine.
I feel bad lol. I looked at it this morning and I was like wth. I knew it was the h2o2. How many days did you dose for? And how big Is your tNk?


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Unread 09/14/2015, 07:55 PM   #1820
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I feel bad lol. I looked at it this morning and I was like wth. I knew it was the h2o2. How many days did you dose for? And how big Is your tNk?
I dosed for 10 days at 1ml/10gal in a 200gal system, the first 4 days were lights out.
It had no affect on the dinos.


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I dosed for 10 days at 1ml/10gal in a 200gal system, the first 4 days were lights out.
It had no affect on the dinos.
Do you have any before or after pics? I will stop if it does not do the job. I wouldn't want to do anymore harm to my bloodshrimp.


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Unread 09/15/2015, 05:13 AM   #1822
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Do you have any before or after pics? I will stop if it does not do the job. I wouldn't want to do anymore harm to my bloodshrimp.
I don't have any pics. It might depend on the type of dinos you have whether it works or not, I had Ostreopsis Ovata.


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Unread 09/15/2015, 05:40 AM   #1823
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You know what I find very weird. I could do a 50% water change at night, come back the next morning with lights on and the dinoflagellates are right back to the same spot. It's like I didn't get 1 dinoflagellate out of the tank. I don't get it. I am about 99% close to restarting my tank. I am holding on by that 1%


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Do you have any section of the tank (sump, refugium, room) that's lit?


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