|
08/23/2015, 02:04 PM | #1601 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Brampton, ON, Canada
Posts: 958
|
I believe they are imported from the water column. You can even buy products intended to help corals regain their symbiotic zooxanthellae (AlgaGen’s product PhycoPure Zooxanthellae).
In the Anemone forum, one of the techniques they use for treating bleached anemones is to do a zooxanthellae transplant. Basically injecting a piece of a healthy pureed tentacle into a bleached specimen. It has shown promise for saving nem's that otherwise tend to perish. Dennis
__________________
560G Miracles tank in process making a DIY DyMiCo style filter (for 560G) Current Tank Info: 560G Miracles tank in progress, 80Frag Temporary |
08/23/2015, 02:57 PM | #1602 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 202
|
More Zoox are a side effect of nutrient rich water and is what causes corals to Brown out
|
08/24/2015, 06:05 AM | #1603 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,516
|
Quote:
Dinos don't care. |
|
08/24/2015, 08:56 AM | #1604 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 230
|
i had small dino outbreak along with cyano....what worked for me was 1)added for life (fish, pods, snails, crabs, phyo, etc) 2) drier skimmate 3)killed the cyano with chemiclean....i think you need to kill the cyano first.....
|
08/24/2015, 09:39 AM | #1605 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 202
|
Quote:
|
|
08/24/2015, 10:30 AM | #1606 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 557
|
|
08/24/2015, 10:48 AM | #1607 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 308
|
I didn't have any cianobacteria but used some amoxiciline to combat toxic ostreopsis (on the first of the five outbreaks). It didn't harm ostreopsis at all but killed all bacteria and ostreopsis turned non-toxic on the four following outbreaks.
It seems there is a relationship between toxicity and bacteria. |
08/24/2015, 12:10 PM | #1608 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,516
|
|
08/24/2015, 02:56 PM | #1609 | ||
Registered Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: corunna,ontario,canada
Posts: 269
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
08/24/2015, 03:00 PM | #1610 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: corunna,ontario,canada
Posts: 269
|
|
08/24/2015, 03:28 PM | #1611 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 308
|
Quote:
It is a supposition, amoxiciline is very efficient killing bacteria, especially ciano. Erithromicin as well. |
|
08/24/2015, 05:26 PM | #1612 |
Acropora Nut
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Newtown, PA
Posts: 2,453
|
DNA,
I am having a dino issue in my frag tank. I have two small fish (Banggai Cardinalfish and Tailspin Blenny) and a few snails. The tank is a 40 gallon breeder with a 30 gallon long sump/refugium with chaetomorpha algae. I feed the tank two or three times a week and the nitrates read 0.00 (clear) on the Salifert test kit and 0.04 on the Hanna Checker. The tank is barebottom and I use a 8 bulb TEK T5 fixture for lighting. I didn't have this problem until recently when the nitrates dropped. Do dino's appear when the phosphate level is higher than the nitrate level or is there no correlation? What causes the din's to appear and what is the method to correct the problem?
__________________
120 Gallon Acropora dominated tank, barebottom, APEX Controller, ATI Sunpower 8x54w, Skimz SM163, Jebao DCT 6000 return pump & two Jebao OW-40. Current Tank Info: SPS Dominated |
08/24/2015, 07:56 PM | #1613 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 557
|
|
08/24/2015, 08:00 PM | #1614 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 557
|
I hate these damn dinos. My gfs tank has them now too. It was my fault. I put a coral in her tank from mine. Soo stupid.
If i were to restart a tank. How would I go about cleaning the rock? Do I dip in hydrogen peroxide, vinegar bath, leaving darkness for a month, etc... And what to do with corals? I have maybe $200 in corals. How do I clean them? |
08/24/2015, 09:34 PM | #1615 |
Registered Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 11,033
|
If you infected her tank, I bet her system wasn't very mature either.
Dinos are in every system already at some level. The coral probably didn't help, but it was going to happen anyway.
__________________
Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape |
08/25/2015, 10:29 AM | #1616 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: corunna,ontario,canada
Posts: 269
|
|
08/25/2015, 10:34 AM | #1617 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,516
|
Quote:
Right now we are looking into plankton as a cure. That mean we are adding to the bio diversity and lack there of goes the other way around. |
|
08/25/2015, 10:37 AM | #1618 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,516
|
Quote:
After three days it's the same. Dinos don't care. |
|
08/25/2015, 10:37 AM | #1619 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 105
|
Why do we think coralline recedes and turns white? Alk, mag, and ca all good. Dino's not necessarily on the parts that turn white
|
08/25/2015, 10:41 AM | #1620 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 218
|
I upped the amount of food in mine about 6 months ago and also started dripping kalk. My dinos are gone. The refugium started growing better it has calurpa and cheato. And the pod population exploded. I have had more coral growth in the last six months that was probably better than the previous 3 years. I believe my balance of the system was off and dinos will out compete everything. I have not had to stir the sand bed for over 5 months and I get just a little film algea on the glass.
|
08/25/2015, 11:58 AM | #1621 |
Registered Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 11,033
|
Coralline needs nutrients too - phosphate especially.
__________________
Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape |
08/25/2015, 12:15 PM | #1622 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Iceland
Posts: 1,516
|
Quote:
Why this happens has not been proven yet but I find these causes to be likely: Coralline repels dinos with their chemical defenses. If you place dry rock on top of the coralline, dinos will settle there. The toxic soup can get to leathal levels. At lower levels I don't find it odd that life struggles. I've had light gray M capricornis and elephant skin looking pale gray for months. You would swear they were dead. Same goes for the coralline. It's pale gray, not white and still alive. Beneficial bacteria is kept down by the dinos. |
|
08/25/2015, 12:22 PM | #1623 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: corunna,ontario,canada
Posts: 269
|
Quote:
|
|
08/25/2015, 02:49 PM | #1624 | |
Registered Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 390
|
Quote:
hth ivy
__________________
28g cube, CF 105watts! Tunze 9001. Tiny frags: Euphyllia, blasto, ricordea and a rock flower anemone. Lost fish and inverts due to ongoing outbreak of dinoflagellates. Current Tank Info: 28g aio, 105 watt CF lights, no sump or skimmer. 2 sexy shrimp, tiny frogspawn, tiny toadstool, tiny lps. Started Feb '15 |
|
08/25/2015, 02:59 PM | #1625 |
Registered Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 390
|
Drive by updates as I'm still house and garden sitting. There's nothing like garden veggies is there?
I misunderstood the Montireef protocol and had been saving skimmate in a jar (from various people). I put 30mL of it in Mon and today, anyway. No reaction. Stirred up a small area of lumpy sand to see if anything dire happened. Interestingly the lumps are back today. Cygni must be right about it being bacterial. Something I'm doing may be very bad: Slightly panicky because I'm getting that ominous yellow haze from the sandbed up about 5cm. Previously that's been the warning sign for a massive dino bloom. It's covered with pods. Ivy
__________________
28g cube, CF 105watts! Tunze 9001. Tiny frags: Euphyllia, blasto, ricordea and a rock flower anemone. Lost fish and inverts due to ongoing outbreak of dinoflagellates. Current Tank Info: 28g aio, 105 watt CF lights, no sump or skimmer. 2 sexy shrimp, tiny frogspawn, tiny toadstool, tiny lps. Started Feb '15 |
Thread Tools | |
|
|