WXM Module Worth It?

Stolireef · 03/06/2017, 05:51 PM

I have two vortech MP40 WES's. Is it worth getting the WXM to control them? I'd usually just set them to Reef Crest mode or Nutrient Export.

duncanpate1 · 03/06/2017, 06:07 PM

There is a you tube video about this. The guy swears it's the best thing he's done. He has two mp 10s. Has them alternating for six seconds.

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bif24701 · 03/06/2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by duncanpate1

There is a you tube video about this. The guy swears it's the best thing he's done. He has two mp 10s. Has them alternating for six seconds.

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That's it..... lol

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bif24701 · 03/06/2017, 06:26 PM

Ok so I had to see this video. The guy might actually have a point, also from looking at his live stock and equipment when you are at that level something like this could make a difference. I also like that he was able to qualify his results seems hard to believe though but if you consider some the MACNA video about turbo charging photosynthesis could be possible. Worth the 124$? Not for me, I have only one MP60 and a Tunze 6105 on my 180 and I feel like I get all the flow I need. His other point about a long pulse mode vs the standing wave theory could also have truth to it.

The WMX also will control Radions and Vectra as well, I think.

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azsoccerpop · 03/10/2017, 10:18 AM

I have it controlling 2 MP10s and 3 Radions one of which is on a frag tank that is over 40 feet away. I could not imagine going to reeflink or manually programming. Timing everything using the APEX is so much easier. Many folks including the Neptune guru RussM have uploaded profiles to APEX that can be applied taking the guesswork out. Used WXMs are easy to come by in here at great prices.

ca1ore · 03/10/2017, 02:37 PM

WXM does not control the Vectra pump. IMO for vortech pumps it's mainly about convenience. Reeflink is fine too, but futzing around with the three buttons on the vortech driver is madness inducing.

bif24701 · 03/10/2017, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

WXM does not control the Vectra pump. IMO for vortech pumps it's mainly about convenience. Reeflink is fine too, but futzing around with the three buttons on the vortech driver is madness inducing.

Why the heck would they not include that function?

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ca1ore · 03/10/2017, 04:50 PM

Because they are two different companies with increasingly competitive products, thats why!

Stolireef · 03/11/2017, 09:34 AM

Sooo. I guess I'm getting the WXM module. I hate playing with the buttons on the MP40's too.

Stolireef · 03/12/2017, 02:46 PM

Well, I took the plunge on the WXM module. What are the odds that a 5ish year old MP40WES will have sufficiently updated firmware to allow automatic updates as opposed to the painful manual version?

ca1ore · 03/13/2017, 12:49 PM

I added some older (maybe not quite 5 years) MP40s to my WXM without major hair pulling.

Masedaddy · 03/13/2017, 12:56 PM

I've had the Reef link and wxm. I prefer the wxm

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Stolireef · 03/13/2017, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

I added some older (maybe not quite 5 years) MP40s to my WXM without major hair pulling.

I've got my fingers crossed. As someone else mentioned, I truly despise the user interface on the controller for the MP40s. Those buttons are a true PIA.

Rick's Reef · 03/14/2017, 11:53 PM

I am using WXM with >5 year old MP40s. No issues

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Stolireef · 03/15/2017, 08:28 AM

Mine should arrive today or tomorrow. I'll update when I see how they connect.

ca1ore · 03/15/2017, 09:58 AM

You'll have to use the 3 buttons to clear the pumps and hook them to the WXM, but then no more. Setting up pump profiles is quite easy and allows you to move through different modes as often as you like.

Stolireef · 03/15/2017, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

You'll have to use the 3 buttons to clear the pumps and hook them to the WXM, but then no more. Setting up pump profiles is quite easy and allows you to move through different modes as often as you like.

I really hate those three little buttons. I won't miss jiggering with them. Considering the quality of the pumps, I've never understood why they couldn't just add a small LCD screen to them to tell you what mode you are in. Heck, the APEX display unit is light years ahead of the three little button and it certainly ain't no Retina Display.

Fdnavy · 03/16/2017, 02:32 PM

Is the wxm worth it for just a single radion xr30?

ldc3000 · 03/16/2017, 07:41 PM

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Is the wxm worth it for just a single radion xr30?

I think so. I use it for my two XR15s. It allows for a lot of customization.

BlueRoofTang · 03/16/2017, 08:55 PM

I recently got my first mp10, as part of a tank breakdown package. I had to buy a new controller for it. It worked really well, but was noisy. It put out enough flow that I decided to spend the money on a new MP40esw. Honestly, it doesn't flow near what a Jebao wp40 does. I have them both in the same tank and can tell a huge difference in the two. The jebao is easier to control also.

I'm now eyeballing a Neptune system. It would be my first, so I'm researching a bit to see what I want.

jml1149 · 03/17/2017, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueRoofTang

I'm now eyeballing a Neptune system. It would be my first, so I'm researching a bit to see what I want.

Disclaimer: I'm an unapologetic Apex fanboi, just to get it out there.

I could not imagine running my tank without my Apex. I appreciate the simple interface that ETM provided with their MP system, but holy hell, trying to remember what sequence of what buttons with what colors to get which mode to do what on makes me cry.

I really appreciate being able to pull up the Apex interface and control everything from one location, using the English language, and then automatically swap modes during the day, feed modes, etc.

I'm sure the ETM reeflink interface is great, but having everything centrally located is really ideal.

Deahttub · 03/26/2017, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stolireef

I have two vortech MP40 WES's. Is it worth getting the WXM to control them? I'd usually just set them to Reef Crest mode or Nutrient Export.

IMHO Wxm is best thing about an apex....have 4 mp40qd's and change the programs up as ofet as i want...

bobt2 · 03/28/2017, 05:14 PM

do you need the wxm with the new apex?[top of the line model?

jonmos75 · 03/28/2017, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bobt2

do you need the wxm with the new apex?[top of the line model?

If you want to have the Apex control Radion lights or Vortech powerheads, however the Vectra Return pumps are not controllable with the WXM or the the Apex except ON/OFF

03/06/2017, 05:51 PM	#1
Stolireef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scottsdale AZ Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 5	WXM Module Worth It? I have two vortech MP40 WES's. Is it worth getting the WXM to control them? I'd usually just set them to Reef Crest mode or Nutrient Export. __________________ I want to burn twice as bright and half as long. Oh, and a full tank crash is just an excuse for a new build. Current Tank Info: 125 Rimless Leemar, Apex, Trigger 30 Elite Sump, Vertex 180i Skimmer, 2 X Gen4 Radion XR30W, BM Doser, 2xMP40WES, 2xTunze 6095, Sicce Syncra 4.0.

03/06/2017, 06:26 PM	#4
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	Ok so I had to see this video. The guy might actually have a point, also from looking at his live stock and equipment when you are at that level something like this could make a difference. I also like that he was able to qualify his results seems hard to believe though but if you consider some the MACNA video about turbo charging photosynthesis could be possible. Worth the 124$? Not for me, I have only one MP60 and a Tunze 6105 on my 180 and I feel like I get all the flow I need. His other point about a long pulse mode vs the standing wave theory could also have truth to it. The WMX also will control Radions and Vectra as well, I think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

03/10/2017, 02:37 PM	#6
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	WXM does not control the Vectra pump. IMO for vortech pumps it's mainly about convenience. Reeflink is fine too, but futzing around with the three buttons on the vortech driver is madness inducing. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/10/2017, 04:50 PM	#8
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Because they are two different companies with increasingly competitive products, thats why! __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/11/2017, 09:34 AM	#9
Stolireef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scottsdale AZ Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 5	Sooo. I guess I'm getting the WXM module. I hate playing with the buttons on the MP40's too. __________________ I want to burn twice as bright and half as long. Oh, and a full tank crash is just an excuse for a new build. Current Tank Info: 125 Rimless Leemar, Apex, Trigger 30 Elite Sump, Vertex 180i Skimmer, 2 X Gen4 Radion XR30W, BM Doser, 2xMP40WES, 2xTunze 6095, Sicce Syncra 4.0.

03/06/2017, 06:07 PM	#2
duncanpate1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 149	There is a you tube video about this. The guy swears it's the best thing he's done. He has two mp 10s. Has them alternating for six seconds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03/10/2017, 10:18 AM	#5
azsoccerpop Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 232	I have it controlling 2 MP10s and 3 Radions one of which is on a frag tank that is over 40 feet away. I could not imagine going to reeflink or manually programming. Timing everything using the APEX is so much easier. Many folks including the Neptune guru RussM have uploaded profiles to APEX that can be applied taking the guesswork out. Used WXMs are easy to come by in here at great prices.

03/12/2017, 02:46 PM	#10
Stolireef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scottsdale AZ Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 5	Well, I took the plunge on the WXM module. What are the odds that a 5ish year old MP40WES will have sufficiently updated firmware to allow automatic updates as opposed to the painful manual version? __________________ I want to burn twice as bright and half as long. Oh, and a full tank crash is just an excuse for a new build. Current Tank Info: 125 Rimless Leemar, Apex, Trigger 30 Elite Sump, Vertex 180i Skimmer, 2 X Gen4 Radion XR30W, BM Doser, 2xMP40WES, 2xTunze 6095, Sicce Syncra 4.0.

03/13/2017, 12:49 PM	#11
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I added some older (maybe not quite 5 years) MP40s to my WXM without major hair pulling. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/13/2017, 12:56 PM	#12
Masedaddy SPS/Chalice Collector Join Date: May 2013 Location: Stratford, CT Posts: 2,169	I've had the Reef link and wxm. I prefer the wxm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 57G Oceanic Illuminata Display, 30G Deep Blue Frag Tank, 50 Gallon Custom Sump, Tunze 9415 DOC Skimmer, 36 in and 16 in SeaLife LEDs with T5HO supplement, Denitrator, Tunze ATO, Jebao Doser, 2x Ecotech MP10s

03/14/2017, 11:53 PM	#14
Rick's Reef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 28	I am using WXM with >5 year old MP40s. No issues Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

03/15/2017, 08:28 AM	#15
Stolireef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scottsdale AZ Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 5	Mine should arrive today or tomorrow. I'll update when I see how they connect. __________________ I want to burn twice as bright and half as long. Oh, and a full tank crash is just an excuse for a new build. Current Tank Info: 125 Rimless Leemar, Apex, Trigger 30 Elite Sump, Vertex 180i Skimmer, 2 X Gen4 Radion XR30W, BM Doser, 2xMP40WES, 2xTunze 6095, Sicce Syncra 4.0.

03/15/2017, 09:58 AM	#16
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	You'll have to use the 3 buttons to clear the pumps and hook them to the WXM, but then no more. Setting up pump profiles is quite easy and allows you to move through different modes as often as you like. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/16/2017, 02:32 PM	#18
Fdnavy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 54	Is the wxm worth it for just a single radion xr30?

03/16/2017, 08:55 PM	#20
BlueRoofTang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 186	I recently got my first mp10, as part of a tank breakdown package. I had to buy a new controller for it. It worked really well, but was noisy. It put out enough flow that I decided to spend the money on a new MP40esw. Honestly, it doesn't flow near what a Jebao wp40 does. I have them both in the same tank and can tell a huge difference in the two. The jebao is easier to control also. I'm now eyeballing a Neptune system. It would be my first, so I'm researching a bit to see what I want.

03/28/2017, 05:14 PM	#23
bobt2 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: long island NY Posts: 1,835	do you need the wxm with the new apex?[top of the line model?