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Unread 12/29/2018, 08:35 AM   #201
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ok new tank up and running. bought clean up crew and spent 30 minutes scraping off anything that resembled a non shell in a ptsd manner. fish and shrimp are in.

ok so now ive got a temp tank full of old live rock that is riddled with vermetids and discosoma mushrooms. time for some science. any suggestions?

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Unread 12/29/2018, 09:26 AM   #202
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We need a cure for this


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Unread 12/29/2018, 09:29 AM   #203
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Short of new rock ?????????


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Unread 12/29/2018, 11:01 AM   #204
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Chloroquine Phosphate has worked for some, but I can't find it from a reputable source.
I have tried starving them. I used a 35 gallon quarentine tank with infested rock. I didn't feed the tank. I did 20% water changes twice a week for 2 months. I did 50% water changes twice a week for a month. All while dosing 10 ml potassium permanganate.. the snails are still there.
I have pulled out rock and and replaced it with new only to see the snails start to repopulate on the new rock.
Nuking the tank is the only option I can see at this point.
I have learned a very valuable lesson here. Dipping and Quarantining EVERYTHING and removing new corals from the object that they were purchased on. I was basically lucky for a long time without going through these steps.
I used to think people were going overboard with the procedures and time they spent within those procedures.... I have changed my entire mindset with this hobby. Go slow and do everything you possibly can to protect that beautiful display tank, or you will end up with a lot of headache and heartache.
And lots of wasted $$$$.¢¢ (notice the four dollar signs)

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Unread 12/30/2018, 12:20 AM   #205
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So you are saying that chloroquine worked????
Please , explain the dosage
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Unread 12/31/2018, 06:37 AM   #206
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winder if hypo/hyper salinity would do anything. tryung to apply ockhams razor here now

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Unread 12/31/2018, 07:28 AM   #207
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Unread 12/31/2018, 09:40 AM   #208
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winder if hypo/hyper salinity would do anything. tryung to apply ockhams razor here now

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Risk is high unless remove fish a corals, and some of the inverts

Mushrooms didn't work for me


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Unread 01/01/2019, 11:03 AM   #209
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mushrooms def dint work. if you see the pic above youll understand. i had every inch of tank covered

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Unread 01/01/2019, 01:40 PM   #210
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I have mostly corals on the rocks
And lots of VS.


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Unread 01/02/2019, 06:11 AM   #211
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So you are saying that chloroquine worked????
Please , explain the dosage
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Chloroquine does work. But it is a nuclear option. Its basically a tank reboot. You can leave fish in but all inverts you want alive have to come out. If any of your coral bases have vermetids, then be careful to quarantine renove and inspect diligently for several months before reintroduction.

Dosage is therapeutic dose for ich treatment, although lower dosages im sure will do just fine for the vermetids.

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Unread 01/02/2019, 06:43 AM   #212
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Thanks for the reply


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Unread 02/19/2019, 10:59 PM   #213
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I want to add an observation. This may help someone not sure how. But although my tank has what seems like thousands of these pests my sump which is has no light has none not one. Not sure why this is.


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Unread 02/20/2019, 07:17 AM   #214
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I want to add an observation. This may help someone not sure how. But although my tank has what seems like thousands of these pests my sump which is has no light has none not one. Not sure why this is.
Yes same here realized that ages ago , but to put it to work in a tank, it wont work unless kill everything.. But thanks for the suggestion


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Unread 02/20/2019, 07:31 AM   #215
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I want to add an observation. This may help someone not sure how. But although my tank has what seems like thousands of these pests my sump which is has no light has none not one. Not sure why this is.
I've got them in my sump with no lights. It tool them a while to make it down there. I think one reason you may not see them is lower flow in the sump. I only have them in areas of higher flow (speaking sump only here).

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Unread 02/20/2019, 09:51 AM   #216
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I've got them in my sump with no lights. It tool them a while to make it down there. I think one reason you may not see them is lower flow in the sump. I only have them in areas of higher flow (speaking sump only here).

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Have not seen them in a high flow area. That seems strange to me that you have them in a high flow area.


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Unread 02/20/2019, 09:53 AM   #217
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Maybe that's because my urchins take out the ones they can reach?


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Unread 02/20/2019, 10:00 AM   #218
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I got 100 blue legs and a few urchins and my numbers are down. They are not a cure, but they seem to really help. It is neat to see a blue leg on top of a tube trying to extract the verm.

I only have the small kind, so no idea what would happen with the larger ones.


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Unread 02/20/2019, 10:09 AM   #219
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I want to add an observation. This may help someone not sure how. But although my tank has what seems like thousands of these pests my sump which is has no light has none not one. Not sure why this is.


I think this is also because you add food to the display tank (so they have more food in the tank vs sump) and they are closer to the source of the detritus in the tank as well (fish poo, etc).


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Unread 02/20/2019, 10:41 AM   #220
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I think this is also because you add food to the display tank (so they have more food in the tank vs sump) and they are closer to the source of the detritus in the tank as well (fish poo, etc).
This would make more sense if I had a filter before my sump.

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Unread 02/20/2019, 10:44 AM   #221
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I think this is also because you add food to the display tank (so they have more food in the tank vs sump) and they are closer to the source of the detritus in the tank as well (fish poo, etc).

This would make more sense if I had a filter before my sump. ent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This would make more sense if I had a filter before my sump.


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Unread 02/20/2019, 10:57 AM   #222
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I haven't found anything to kill these bastards,
Or at least we don't know about it


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Unread 02/20/2019, 10:59 AM   #223
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Do we know the life cycle?


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Unread 02/20/2019, 11:38 AM   #224
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Have not seen them in a high flow area. That seems strange to me that you have them in a high flow area.
I'm talking high flow for sump, would be considered very low flow for the display.

My theory is if the flow is slow enough, it wont carry food particles to the snails.

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Unread 02/20/2019, 12:04 PM   #225
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I'm talking high flow for sump, would be considered very low flow for the display.

My theory is if the flow is slow enough, it wont carry food particles to the snails.

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I just may add a pump to my sump just to test this out. I would love to get rid of these things without tearing down the tank.


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