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04/18/2014, 04:03 PM | #1251 |
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04/18/2014, 06:45 PM | #1252 |
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So it's not the power box failure, plugged into my brother light and no issue.
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04/19/2014, 07:08 AM | #1253 | |
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i was born in east cowes moved off for work and came back in 88 settled in wellow west wight,atlantic coast,free water everywhere!i loved it and still yearn for that area it is proper wild and woolly on that coast when i win the lottery i will instantly return there!when health took a dive i was talked into moving here i should not have listend,hey ho. reef scene is a bit bleak not many coral keepers i have come accross even fewer shops so most all is ordered from mainland,i did try knew german company advertising on ur but next day turned into two days(probably link to iow) all but two acros doa other two look to be slowly recovering. new lights havea lot to do with that i am sure. regards graham. |
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04/19/2014, 08:04 PM | #1254 |
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I have a new 60 inch 4 bulb and the other night I noticed that the T5's where still faintly on and flickering when everything should have been off.
Has anyone else had this problem? |
04/20/2014, 04:53 AM | #1255 | |
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You can also try plug into a totally different socket/wall outlet. In my last place, when I had my tank with MH, my Tunze Osmolator Auto Topoff would behave erratically if plugged onto the same socket as my MH. But it was only this one socket which would cause this issue. If the above doesnt work then I would contact ATI Support. |
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04/20/2014, 01:05 PM | #1256 |
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Thanks Sahin,
I have a bank of six outlets installed on their own circuit under the tank stand. It seems that any outlet on that circuit causes the problem. The light turns off if I connect via an extension cord to another part of the house. This sure goofs up all my electrical planning. I guess I'll have to figure out how to run another cable to the tank or find some kind of filter. |
04/20/2014, 02:54 PM | #1257 | |
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If it doesnt have any issues when connected directly to a socket by itself on another part of the house, then you can safely assume there is no issues with your light unit. I would also get an electrician to check out your circuit for under the tank. I would also put the light on another part of the house and connect it with a GFCI protector. This will show if there is any electrical leakage with the ATI unit. Also, are you in Europe or USA? |
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04/20/2014, 03:08 PM | #1258 |
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Yes, when I plugged the light into a different outlet on the other side of the room (a different circuit) and everything seems fine.
Only when I plug into the tank circuit does the light no turn off. There are six mains outlets on the tank circuit with all of the other tank equipment plugged into them. Would this possibly cause some kind of interference? I am in Spain. |
04/20/2014, 03:36 PM | #1259 | |
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I am not an electrician, and only know VERY basics, but I would get your circuit checked for fault or one of the fish equipment is leaking current possibly? Either way, I wouldnt connect your expensive light into that circuit/with those other equipment. If you can, run a single line with correct gauge wire to supply the current needs of the light at the correct distance. Let us know how this is sorted out. |
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04/20/2014, 07:35 PM | #1260 |
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I'm presently running 2-250 Radium MH's and 1-400 Radium MH in the center of a 300DD tank (72x36). I'm thinking of going to a ATI powermodule with 8 t-5's and the 3 banks of LED's. My question is how would I go about changing over to the new lighting without killing all of the corals in the changeover. I have SPS, LPS and also some leathers.
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04/20/2014, 08:00 PM | #1261 |
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I would say that your new fixture will be close to the same par depending on your bulb selection.
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04/21/2014, 01:21 PM | #1262 |
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Hello ATI Hybrid clubbers,
Normaly I will join the club this week. At the moment I light my tank with ATI Powermodule 10 x 54 W. SPS - LPS mixed. My lightregime at the moment is: 9 am - 10.30 pm: 1 Gieseman atinic - 1 AM blue 3 pm - 9 pm: the other 8 After reading this entire topic I still have some questions... I'm a litle worried about the led vs the corrals. What is a good intensity to start with? Is it possible to renew the link about to make the settings? I can't open the clip... Can you make a mooncycle? What about a cloudy day? Or are this no needed functions... Are the t5 bulbs included? Maybe some pics... Already thanks for the interesting reading in this topic, and the answers still to come. Best regards, Peter Last edited by Dino; 04/22/2014 at 04:54 AM. |
04/21/2014, 02:42 PM | #1263 |
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How hot does your unit get? Do all the fans turn on over the T5s? Mine is extremely hot and only 1 fan works. Do you think this is a problem? I was planning on putting it in a canopy over my next tank but now I'm concerned about the heat.
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The fans over the LED, will switch on depending on temp of unit. Mine comes on when the unit reaches around 48'C. I have 8 tubes and at PEAK times I run the Royal Blue at 100%, White at 25% and Blue at 25%; the temp hasnt so far reached 50'C as I tend to glance at the controller when I am near the tank. My living room runs 26-28'C all year round as it is a modern flat. If I were in a colder location my unit would have run slightly cooler. I would definitely contact ATI Support/your retailer. The units do have a safety protection built in and will decrease or switch power off if it overheats. |
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These ATI units are absolute PAR monsters. I would start off by running ONLY the T5's for say 6 hours. Increase the time to around 8 hours eventually over about 10 days. Then start to utilise the LED's after that. Also, hang the lights at least 10 inches above the tank to start with. So, a combo of reduced light hours, high suspension height and gradual use of the hybrid system will ensure corals are safe. Look closely at the corals, especially LPS and any SPS nearer to the surface for bleaching or tissue losing colour or LPS tissue becoming "more see through" (eg frogspawn/hammers etc). Reduce light intensity immediately if that happens. |
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04/21/2014, 03:46 PM | #1268 | |
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The bulbs wont be ruined as bad as you think. But may have reduced the life of them by a month or two. Really badly burnt tubes (due to excessive heat) will exhibit dark circles on the end with the text/label. This is also the end that should be orientated to be placed with the air blowing onto them from within the unit - on the ATI LED PM's its the cable side. Hope that helps. |
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04/22/2014, 10:58 PM | #1270 |
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Any idea if these units can program in storm/lightning events?
i have the 3 foot/8tube unit and would be fun to show to friends. Havent seen anything that says it can be done but figure i would ask anyhow Thanks |
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Maybe email ATI and ask them to add it as a feature? |
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04/23/2014, 11:13 AM | #1272 |
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I'm presently running 3 MH lights which put out as we all know a little bit of heat so I have the Apex programmed to shut the lights down if the tank temp reaches a certain temperature. To me it looks like the ATI 2615, having it's own controller, is not able to accominidate this function? Any way to do this? If the powermodule is plugged into an Apex outlet that is constantly on unless it shuts the outlet down due to temperature do you lose all the programming of the ATI unit?
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However, the heat issue that you have with using Metal Halides and an ATI unit is quite different. I doubt the Apex will ever need to shut down the light...a T5/LED unit will produce and transfer MUCH LESS heat. In the unlikely event say a VERY hot day, and the APEX shuts down the ATI unit, the time will be effected. If you are at home, it takes less than 5 seconds to change it back. If you are not home (ie on holiday and no one is around to reset the time), it just means the TIME will have changed, and the unit will turn on and off a different time...but will follow the same program. Not a terrible thing. However, like I said it is UNLIKELY to ever do this since most people NEVER need to run chillers etc due to T5 lights, for Metal Halide yes. So the Apex will likely never shut down the ATI unit. Hope that makes sense. |
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04/23/2014, 12:07 PM | #1274 |
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Good news my unit is by the store.
Tommorow i pick him up. I choose this setup for the t5 bulbs. front to back: ATI Blue Plus ATI Actinic ATI Blue Plus ATI Coral Plus LED LED LED LED ATI Coral Plus ATI Purple Plus ATI Blue Plus ATI Coral Plus Sunday i change my setup to o new one more open lower and i make it from reefbones. Here a photo This week i start with the zeo methode i think with the new unit above that it word amazing. Sunday evening picts from The unit above my tank Greets wesley |
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Peter, As for your questions: I'm a litle worried about the led vs the corrals. What is a good intensity to start with? Since you have a 10tube PM, you can switch over with little worry. Start the T5's at 100% and LED at 20% intensity. Over a few weeks adjust LED channels and intensity to what you like. If you PM me with your email address and basic details of how you like your light profile, I can create a light profile for you. Just make sure you tell me which exact ATI model you bought and how many LED clusters etc. Is it possible to renew the link about to make the settings? I can't open the clip... Here is the link and video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6f4JA9UUI Can you make a mooncycle? What about a cloudy day? Or are this no needed functions... Yes, you can program a moonlight cycle and cloud cycle. However it will be the same thing every day. The software doesnt include days...its one program for every day. IMO these are not needed and more of a gimmick. The cloud effect may be useful though if for example you want to run a long light cycle, it makes sense to include a "cloud cover" part of the cycle to give the corals a break from the high intensity. But for most purposes, not really needed. Are the t5 bulbs included? No. But speak with your retailer. I know in the UK you can get discount if you buy the lamp and T5 tubes at the same time. You have a beautiful mixed tank. Post some photos when you get the new light. |
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